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It appears to be a reprint of the article that ran in the LaDaSun yesterday: http://www2.laconiadailysun.com/stor...t-ridden-stump

My thoughts exactly, leave him right where he is after all these facts have come out. He deserves what he got, he is a hothead!!

So in the unlikely event of a pardon, I sure hope Ward Bird would be restricted from owning or having guns.

If his felony conviction is left in place, he won't be able to have guns. Federal law.

I see the two cases as entirely different. Unfortunately people want to abide by the constitution only when it's convienient.

I have just started reading the last page of this thread and was wondering is it really necessary for M'boro to have 12 full-time police officers? I live in a Southern NH town of about 35,000 - 40,000 and me thinks that there maybe that many full-time officers in this town. Not absolutely sure of the number, but bet it's close. :confused:

I'll give my opinion. 12 officers for a small New England town that goes to sleep in the winter is a not a small expense. If voters approve it, they best not complain about the mil rate as it will fall on deaf ears.

Some people tend to Mellow as they get older. Maybe Ward has mellowed since the 2002 incident. My guess is he has.

However, if he stays in jail, his mellowing might reverse itself and he WILL become bitter over the experience. I would. :look: NB

The article, which I hope quotes the court documents, states that Ward's statement after the incident was that he yelled and swore at the woman, and then he took his gun out of the holster to check the safety as he planned to enter the house.

So to shorten the story, by admission he was was yelling and swearing and had the gun in his hand. That would be enough for me to consider him to have been provocatively threatening to an unarmed older lady.

I believe the jury probably came to correct decision based on what was presented to them.

I don't know how I feel about supporting Ward in jail for three years, I kind of think that taking guns out of his life (for the rest of his life) would be a suitable punishment, so perhaps I have an issue with mandatory sentencing.

Unlike the jury we know of the previous incident, and that previous incident tends to support a view that Ward does not have the best of judgement when it comes to guns.

I agree that previous history of both the people did not play a part in the trial, but his previous history was with guns capable of killing others, and her's isn't (although her's IS bad bad bad enough).

Whatever measuring stick you use his former history has to be seen as more compelling.

I had to go back and read this part of the Globe article below quoting Ward Bird

“The gun rights and property rights are important — this touches on that, to be sure,’’ Bird said in a phone interview. “But it’s about the truth. It’s about how someone can make a claim against you and the powers that be can take it at face value when she is a proven liar. This could happen to anybody, not just me. And people are awakening to that.’’

So, how does that sound in light of the 2002 incident. Sure, he went home and thought about it then went to the station to confess. But he lied about it first and had to think about whether to let the lie stand, and he then makes the accusation above? Does he have a grasp on his own actions?

:rolleye2: Since when do the newspapers ever really got all their facts straight in any article they publish ? These are the same newspapers that have a man with a belly full of stitchs from major surgury, jumping off the porch. Yup, those newspapers are Real Believable and trustworthy ! :rolleye2:

The incident from Wards past history was a bonehead move which, knowing Ward I suspect he regrets, This bonehead move was made while he was under the influence of to much alcohol. Nobody ! under the influence of alcohol is capable of using proper judgment.
Just to make it clear to some. I do not condone that "bonehead move". You don't mix alcohol and firearms for any reason EVER.

As stated earlier, I don't have a horse in this race. But the fact that, with clearer head, he reconsidered and confessed when he didn't need to do so tells me something about his character.

Still was bonehead, and I would agree it might be time to re-evaluate his gun permits. But the core of the person seems to not be an issue.

"Risk-Averse" Here...
 

1) :eek2: Perhaps because you don't live within range of a certain 30-caliber, bullet-riddled, stump? :rolleye2:


2) Come to think of it, today's newspapers will be featuring their annual warnings about filling tonight's skies with "hot lead" to bring in the New Year! :eek2:


:rolleye1:

Ward...
 

This guy is a danger to the community. Apparently he's had other issues involving guns and they should be taken away from him as a person who can't handle responsibility.

Free ward bird!
 

All I can say is..I was there at the time of "target practicing" in 2008. That reporter did not even get the address correct! It was on Wintersport..and it wasn't a "loud" party..and if truth be known..it was NOT Ward who was shooting the gun! He took the blame..All we are asking is ..why? Why put this man in jail? This is clearly a he said she said. There were NO witnesses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e41v3dI8kR0
great song!

He did some "target practicing" in 2008. Did he get in trouble for that one also?

If you know that "He took the blame" then why don't you step up to the plate and tell the police who really did it. That might help Mr. Bird when it comes time for reviewing his pardon request.

Oh no, so Ward took the blame for someone else who had really bad judgement and now that person is not accountable (and is walking around with guns?). Why is that a good thing? Do two bad judgments make a good judgement? I don't think so. (isn't "taking the blame" a lie then? A standing lie?)

Here's a little question that I want to throw out: What's up with Ward's nickname "Lauchy" as was printed in the LaDaSun, the other day? Anyone know where he got that nickname which is supposedly pronounced Locky. Now Locky sure seems like an unusual nickname? Also printed in the LaDaSun article it said something like Ward always carried his .45 Sig concealed and never went anywhere without it because he had a concealed carry permit and it was his right to do so.

Is "Lauchy" a nickname that was derived from Locky as in Lock & Load, or Locked & Loaded, or Locky & Loadied or something? Is "Lauchy" some type of a Moultonborough, way-out-in-the-country, down-a-long-dirt-road nickname for Ward because he was always locked & loaded? "Yes, Ward is always locked & loaded so one day we just decided to start calling him "Lauchy" and it stuck, plus he seems to like the name?"

.....or something like that?

More meaningless speculation & character assassination out of you .... :(

hoooooookay! :rolleye1:

and with that, I believe we've crossed the line over into "absurd", where there's a Mickey Ds on every corner.

just curious....
 

If fatlazyless is trying to be witty in his incoherent posts or is he displaying early signs of dementia...I would think the moderators would edit some of his posts.

Back on topic...Just want to throw a Hello out to Ward And Ginny....you are in many many peoples thoughts and prayers everyday......

Interlakes Class of '80

I don't answer your question because I think you might actually care what the real answer is, but there might be some decent people reading this who do care. Ward got the nickname handed down to him from a relative. I don't recall if it was a Great Grandfather or a Great Uncle.
I know it isn't as colorful or degrading as your sarcastic speculation but is does have much more honor and meaning than I suspect your capable of understanding.

wuwu - Has anyone who was there at the incident, like yourself, considered writing a rebuttal to that story? You're not the only person I know who's said the story in the LaDaSun was bogus.

Does anyone one know how fatlazyless got their nickname? Hmm..Fat..Lazy...Less, but then I guess this fits!:laugh:

Based on previous posts when people discussed their handles here, he said he used to troll under the moniker "Lean Mean Less", and then changed it on a whim here.

If you dig a little on the forum you'll find his name isn't Less either:)

Every forum needs its resident class clown.

"Lauchy"????

Maybe something like this:"We pray that Lauchie (Bird's nickname) can celebrate Christmas with the family, as we've done together all of our lives," said Bird's sister, Melissa Manville of Center Harbor. "But if he can't be with us, we will be with him in spirit."

Or maybe something like this: "Ward is my brother-in-law, and I’ve observed him closely, in all manner of situations, for the past 25 years. He is known to family and friends as “Lauchie” (pronounced “Locky”), so please allow me to continue this letter using that name."

hello everybody,

In thinking about carrying a handgun that is totally concealed from view, here's a couple thoughts off the top of my head.

- It carries with it the very big responsibility of having a very potent weapon, and a .45 Sig is a very powerful weapon.

- Carrying concealed will strongly tend to empower the person with a feeling of increased security or a feeling of superiority because he probably thinks that another individual does NOT have a concealed weapon while at the same time he does.

How can this influence his actions? It could make him more aggressive knowing that he can always rely on his handgun and instead of tending toward withdrawing from a confrontation, it encourages more aggressive actions. So, carrying concealed can aggravate a situation that otherwise would have been solved by speaking in a way to get along with someone as opposed to confronting them. This is known as "posturing" when your attitude effects you to assume a certain posture in your mindset.

For every situation where a concealed handgun solves a security problem, there's probably three situations where it makes the situation worse because people are less likely to back down or to retreat and just call and explain the situation to the police down at 911.

So, carrying concealed comes with a big responsibility and a big need to act responsibly so maybe a carry permit should require a training course and a test. After all, driving a car or piloting a boat both require a state training course and a state test so why not for handguns too?

If Ward had had to make the effort to attend a training course and then pass a test, wouldn't he probably be less likely to be all locked up with his current situation? Just my two cents ..........

Your "two cents" fell about $10.00 short of being worth anything !

One solution to some comments by "fatlazyless" or others with off base or off target/thread comments is to ignore their postings. Most of the time, they are subliminally egging people on to respond. Responding just feeds their appetite to comment further. Just one persons opinion....

Agreed. FLL is on my ignore filter now.

brk-Int,

Off topic, but I've been meaning to ask you about your avatar. Is that a cap or a pancake on the bunny's head?:laugh:

Hey Rattle Island-Windy Side, while I cannot please everyone with my comments, at least it's nice to know that you are thinking about them.:rolleye2:

You could please EVERYONE very easily with your comments. Don't Make Any !!!

For the record, I have never talked to a loon about whether they were anti-gun or not. Considering you can't hunt them, I'm guessing they wouldn't really care.:laugh:

Good one Pineedles! :laugh:

Excellent suggestion, but since he has almost twice as many posts as the number of days that he's been a member of this forum, it's likely that he doesn't have a life away from the Internet.

...you got that one right....just a forum nitwit and all-around blabber mouth here! :D Actually, I have caught the flu bug and have been flu-ed out for the last nine days caughing up yellow phlegm....but....whatever ... :(...this forum is good therapy for self-medicating to lose the flu.... !:banana:

If the Phlegm starts to look Green, you could try to Quit Smoking. I had that problem over 40 years ago and the Doctor told me if I quit, things would get better. That old Fart didn't think I could do it..:look: I showed him. :D

Haven't had a cigarette since. When you're coughing up green phlegm, cigarettes, just make your mouth taste like a seagull slept in it anyhow. :D NB

WMUR has an interview with Ward on the 6 o'clock news tonight.