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fatlazyless 08-09-2018 01:53 PM

.... a floating pickleball court is 44' x 20' reg pb court
 
44' x 20' is the dimensions for a pickleball court, so's maybe they could build a pickleball court on the top deck, and go after the pickleball player demographic.

Add a big water slide for sliding off the back of the boat between playing pickleball ........ and it could be a big hit with the growing pickleball demographic in the lakes region.

Top deck could host pickleball on weekdays, and raise the prices for adult beverages on the week ends, or something? ..... and go for a $12.50-pickleball cruise to no-where, leaving from West Alton Marina every week day at 9-am. ... could be fun!

The Dive - floating pickleball team league events - ice out to ice in!

....and rename The Dive to become The Pickle.

Phantom 08-09-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmlp (Post 299761)
I just don't see how they can make a go of it long term. Lake pretty dead during the week even during summer (thankfully) and weekend business cannot possibly sustain them.

rsmlp -- normally I would agree with you about during the week being quiet -- but we spent the week of 7/29 thru 8/4 on the lake and every time we went by Smalls Cove it was MAX'd out...…… We were considering giving the Dive a try, but dropping and anchor was damn near impossible each visit.


It cannot be denied that they are currently drawing a crowd to that particular Sand Bar -- Novelty or not - which is fine by me


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MBNeckguy 08-09-2018 03:25 PM

The Dive?
 
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The Dive being towed by Seatow today. Anyone know what happened?

winni83 08-09-2018 03:44 PM

Something funny is going on. Earlier today on FB, the Dive posted a shot of them being towed and blamed their marine mechanic. That post has now disappeared and it has been replaced with a post that the "Booze Cruise" has been postponed due to unforseen circumstances.

Quote from the now deleted post:

"When your local Evinrude mechanic messes up your engines...at least
we had Sea Tow. At this point our cruise tomorrow will most likely be
postponed."



I wonder what their liability insurance carrier thinks of them advertising a "Booze Cruise".

fatlazyless 08-09-2018 04:24 PM

With that sleek design, low resistance displacement hull, it must glide through the water just like a sting ray. The Dive could use a 15-hp two stroke Evinrude hung off the stern on a bracket as a backup, emergency engine, or just for cruis'n along at 1-mph and conserving gasoline .... ha-ha-ha!


Maybe a set of very, very long oars, and have volunteers row the oars to keep it moving ..... row-row-row!

Seaplane Pilot 08-09-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by winni83 (Post 299771)
Something funny is going on. Earlier today on FB, the Dive posted a shot of them being towed and blamed their marine mechanic. That post has now disappeared and it has been replaced with a post that the "Booze Cruise" has been postponed due to unforseen circumstances.

Quote from the now deleted post:

"When your local Evinrude mechanic messes up your engines...at least
we had Sea Tow. At this point our cruise tomorrow will most likely be
postponed."



I wonder what their liability insurance carrier thinks of them advertising a "Booze Cruise".

They lost both engines? Sounds like fuel starvation to me.

tis 08-09-2018 04:43 PM

We went by WA today and saw it out there. It must have happened after that.

winni83 08-09-2018 06:23 PM

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Here is a picture of The Dive under tow.

Momo 08-09-2018 06:35 PM

7:30 PM and the WinniBelle just cruised by the plastic tenement (aka The Dive) with a DJ and happy people. Awesome that people are enjoying the lake. However, the Tenement remains in Smalls Cove... virtually empty. And the “Booze Cruise” is cancelled? Too bad, because maybe they could have given those people their drink coozies that say The Dive “Supports Day Drinking”.

brk-lnt 08-09-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by winni83 (Post 299771)

I wonder what their liability insurance carrier thinks of them advertising a "Booze Cruise".

Probably not much as long as they are licensed to serve liquor, which they appear to be.

winni83 08-09-2018 07:42 PM

Well, for starters, see

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...-F/507-F-4.htm

Taz 08-09-2018 07:58 PM

Dive
 
What's going on here? They are deleting posts, engine trouble with new engines? Last week when it was questioned if the Dive was the source of the alleged oil slick the Dive was indignant, "our engines are new" Now they have engine trouble with new engines? The Dive also deleted a series of posts when some one claimed they saw the oil slick and stated it was DPM, a by product of deisel engine exhaust. Then magically that entire thread on their FB page disappeared. Maybe 2 outboards can't handle the Dive. The owner is a licensed captain and marine engineer per "their story" on their FB page. The Dive may need to be re-engineered.

Posts being deleted you have wonder what the Dive is hiding.

joey2665 08-09-2018 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)
What's going on here? They are deleting posts, engine trouble with new engines? Last week when it was questioned if the Dive was the source of the alleged oil slick the Dive was indignant, "our engines are new" Now they have engine trouble with new engines? The Dive also deleted a series of posts when some one claimed they saw the oil slick and stated it was DPM, a by product of deisel engine exhaust. Then magically that entire thread on their FB page disappeared. Maybe 2 outboards can't handle the Dive. The owner is a licensed captain and marine engineer per "their story" on their FB page. The Dive may need to be re-engineered.



Posts being deleted you have wonder what the Dive is hiding.



I think you are reading way too much into this engine trouble situation. It’s all new let it play out, could just be the blips on starting a new very unique business


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Taz 08-09-2018 08:35 PM

Dive
 
Correction to my previous post. The Dive owner has marine construction management experience, not marine engineer, als states has extensive lake and barge experince.

ApS 08-10-2018 08:16 AM

They'll Need Someone on The Drum...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 299774)
With that sleek design, low resistance displacement hull, it must glide through the water just like a sting ray. The Dive could use a 15-hp two stroke Evinrude hung off the stern on a bracket as a backup, emergency engine, or just for cruis'n along at 1-mph and conserving gasoline .... ha-ha-ha!
Maybe a set of very, very long oars, and have volunteers row the oars to keep it moving ..... row-row-row!

Free drinks?

http://cyclegreece.com/wp-content/up...1-1024x768.jpg

joey2665 08-10-2018 08:26 AM

Just checked their app and they will be at Smalls Cove again today Friday 8/10 with a DJ starting at 6pm (which I guess they are doing instead of the booze cruise).

brk-lnt 08-10-2018 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)
What's going on here?

Probably nothing interesting at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)
engine trouble with new engines?

Unfortunately it can be kind of common. Besides "engine problem" is pretty vague. Could be an issue with the actual engines, the rigging, fuel, etc. it's a fully custom build after all, you sort of have to expect some gremlins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)

Last week when it was questioned if the Dive was the source of the alleged oil slick the Dive was indignant, "our engines are new" Now they have engine trouble with new engines?

I think you are trying to correlate two unrelated things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)
The Dive also deleted a series of posts when some one claimed they saw the oil slick and stated it was DPM, a by product of deisel engine exhaust. Then magically that entire thread on their FB page disappeared.

Probably because it devolved into bitching and baseless speculation...

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 299790)
Maybe 2 outboards can't handle the Dive.

Maybe, but most likely they can. It's easy math to do. Besides, if 2 outboards can move a 64' Viking several hundred miles down the east coast, 2 outboards can probably move The Dive several dozen miles without issue.

https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating...outboards.html

The Real BigGuy 08-10-2018 12:34 PM

There are a number of large barges on the lake that move easily w/2 engines fully loaded w/equipment & fill. I just saw one loaded with soil (I’m guessing 20 - 30 yards) moving pretty good with 1 outboard. The Dive shouldn’t have an issue moving with 2.


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rsmlp 08-10-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 299766)
rsmlp -- normally I would agree with you about during the week being quiet -- but we spent the week of 7/29 thru 8/4 on the lake and every time we went by Smalls Cove it was MAX'd out...…… We were considering giving the Dive a try, but dropping and anchor was damn near impossible each visit.

It cannot be denied that they are currently drawing a crowd to that particular Sand Bar -- Novelty or not - which is fine by me


Hope the hell they stay there and away from us.

Momo 08-10-2018 04:09 PM

I guess the next great thing The Dive does does for the lake will be seagulls.

Seaplane Pilot 08-12-2018 02:51 PM

See page 14

http://edition.pagesuite-professiona...4-f3c1ee69f46e

Chimi 08-12-2018 03:15 PM

Wow. The article said they spent close to a million on this operation. Wonder what they will do in the spring when the water is too cold for people to wade over to them at the sandbar?

Hillcountry 08-12-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimi (Post 299986)
Wow. The article said they spent close to a million on this operation. Wonder what they will do in the spring when the water is too cold for people to wade over to them at the sandbar?

I think, as was aforementioned, a sturdy, stable shuttle craft (small pontoon?) would fill that bill nicely.

TiltonBB 08-12-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimi (Post 299986)
Wow. The article said they spent close to a million on this operation. Wonder what they will do in the spring when the water is too cold for people to wade over to them at the sandbar?

If you read the article it says they spent "the better part of a million dollars" to build it. Later in the article it says "The Dive, which cost about $600,000 to build."

$600,000 is the "better part" of a million dollars but the article does not say they spent "close to a million on this operation" Very different!

Chimi 08-13-2018 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 299998)
If you read the article it says they spent "the better part of a million dollars" to build it. Later in the article it says "The Dive, which cost about $600,000 to build."

$600,000 is the "better part" of a million dollars but the article does not say they spent "close to a million on this operation" Very different!

So what’s your point? The article said they spent the better part of a million. I said they spent close to a million. Big deal!

If it makes you happy, I will rephrase my comment: “They spent a “LOT of MONEY” building this thing.

Jersey Guy 08-13-2018 12:13 PM

Visited Yesterday
 
Out of curiosity, and in need of a new destination, we took a ride to The Dive late in the day yesterday from Buzzells Cove, with the intent to check it out, and maybe do a drive by. We did not expect the welcome and encouragement to stop by by the handful of customers on board (4-5) as well as the staff. We had 2 dogs which we were told were welcome to join the owners dog already there. I dropped off the dogs and 3 other family members directly to The Dive, dropped anchor and waded over. We had a beer, and I warmed up by the fire, and stayed about an hour. Betsy, Jamie and crew could not have been more helpful and appreciative of us coming out on the grey day. We will be back and wish them all the best.

iw8surf 08-13-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimi (Post 300002)
So what’s your point? The article said they spent the better part of a million. I said they spent close to a million. Big deal!

If it makes you happy, I will rephrase my comment: “They spent a “LOT of MONEY” building this thing.

I surely respect the entrepreneurial drive behind spending that much money. To me they either had the money to begin with and could've just kicked back and relaxed or took a big risk. Either way kudos from me on taking the chance, not many of us would have.

Chimi 08-13-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 300034)
I surely respect the entrepreneurial drive behind spending that much money. To me they either had the money to begin with and could've just kicked back and relaxed or took a big risk. Either way kudos from me on taking the chance, not many of us would have.

I agree with you 100%.

joey2665 08-13-2018 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimi (Post 300002)
So what’s your point? The article said they spent the better part of a million. I said they spent close to a million. Big deal!

If it makes you happy, I will rephrase my comment: “They spent a “LOT of MONEY” building this thing.



I think the point is 600k is not the better part of 1M your off by 40% not close and if you borrowed the funds the debt service between 1M and 600k is significant by way of sales needed to cover the additional 400k debt service.


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Rusty 08-13-2018 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300039)
I think the point is 600k is not the better part of 1M your off by 40% not close and if you borrowed the funds the debt service between 1M and 600k is significant by way of sales needed to cover the additional 400k debt service.


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Using my math it says that 600K is the better part of 1M.
Anything Higher that 50% would be the better part.

joey2665 08-13-2018 03:12 PM

The Dive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300043)
Using my math it says that 600K is the better part of 1M.

Anything Higher that 50% would be the better part.

Sorry I don’t agree with your interpretation of “better part”. By your definition then 500,001.00 is better part of a million. That’s very misleading. If you thought your home was worth the better part of a million and someone offered you 600k I’m sure you would think they are nuts.

In this case as I stated there is a tremendous difference in either an investment of 1 million compared to 600k or if you borrowed the funds paying the difference in debt service between the two.




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Rusty 08-13-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300046)
Sorry I don’t agree with your interpretation of “better part”. By your definition then 500,001.00 is better part of a million. That’s very misleading. If you thought your home was worth the better part of a million and someone offered you 600k I’m sure you would think they are nuts.

In this case as I stated there is a tremendous difference in either an investment of 1 million compared to 600k or if you borrowed the funds paying the difference in debt service between the two.




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500,001.00 is the better part of 1M

Actually 500,000.01 is also the better part of 1M

joey2665 08-13-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300047)
500,001.00 is the better part of 1M



Actually 500,000.01 is also the better part of 1M



Ok if that’s what you think. I disagree especially with relevance to this particular post and the amount of money involved. Your definition is extremely misleading.


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DEJ 08-13-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300043)
Using my math it says that 600K is the better part of 1M.
Anything Higher that 50% would be the better part.

WHO CARES! Get a life people.

Rusty 08-13-2018 04:12 PM

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Ok if that’s what you think. I disagree especially with relevance to this particular post and the amount of money involved. Your definition is extremely misleading.


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Evidently you think the article is wrong also, here is what it states:

joey2665 08-13-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300053)
Evidently you think the article is wrong also, here is what it states:



Yes I do. It’s very misleading. Wouldn’t be the first time an article was misleading. I guess to you 400k is pocket change.


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Shreddy 08-13-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300053)
Evidently you think the article is wrong also, here is what it states:

Can't you guys direct message either with your pissing match rather than flood the forum with nonsense? Give it up

joey2665 08-13-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy (Post 300056)
Can't you guys direct message either with your pissing match rather than flood the forum with nonsense? Give it up



Thank you webmaster. All my posts are relevant to the article in the laconia daily sun.


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Cal Coon 08-13-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300047)
500,001.00 is the better part of 1M

Actually 500,000.01 is also the better part of 1M

I think you and joey's argument (besides being senseless), depends on the definition of what "is" is!!! Does anybody know what "is" means?? Did we ever figure that out back in the 90's???

Hillcountry 08-13-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal Coon (Post 300061)
I think you and joey's argument (besides being senseless), depends on the definition of what "is" is!!! Does anybody know what "is" means?? Did we ever figure that out back in the 90's???

Only our “slick” friend knew what “is” is...


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