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Rusty 08-13-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300055)
Yes I do. It’s very misleading. Wouldn’t be the first time an article was misleading. I guess to you 400k is pocket change.


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I agree it's misleading but not wrong.

Cal Coon 08-13-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 300063)
I agree it's misleading but not wrong.

Sounds like an oxymoron to me...

Newbiesaukee 08-13-2018 05:42 PM

“But mom, I got the best part of a hundred on my test!”

“Mr. Jones, the IRS has determined that you have underpaid the tax on your best part of a $100,000 income.”

Context is all.

GBGX2 08-14-2018 04:28 AM

Now back to our program:
 
A really nice video of the Dive from their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/thedivelake...0121568691666/

Seaplane Pilot 08-14-2018 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GBGX2 (Post 300082)
A really nice video of the Dive from their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/thedivelake...0121568691666/

Beautiful! Looks like a million bucks! :laugh:

The Real BigGuy 08-14-2018 05:54 AM

Or, the better part of a million bucks[emoji4]


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Biggd 08-14-2018 06:04 AM

The better part of a million bucks is when it's in my possession.:)

Seaplane Pilot 08-14-2018 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 300094)
The better part of a million bucks is when it's in my possession.:)

You have the right idea!

brk-lnt 08-14-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 300087)
Or, the better part of a million bucks[emoji4]


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I think we can all agree it's at least in the top half of a million bucks, if you stacked all the bucks in a vertical column.

Poor Richard 08-14-2018 10:39 AM

Definition of "the better part of"

Biggd 08-14-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Poor Richard (Post 300123)

You had to go and ruin all the fun.:rolleye1:

Poor Richard 08-14-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 300126)
You had to go and ruin all the fun.:rolleye1:

Not all of it, just the better part of it.

;)

Cal Coon 08-14-2018 05:24 PM

To the dismay of many on this thread, it seems as though that those in charge of the Dive have laid out a pretty thorough business plan for success, and didn't just "build this ugly barge" and "hope" for the best. I'm not surprised, especially with the amount of investment. Maybe now, (although I doubt it), all the armchair quarterbacking can cease a little bit and give the Dive some credit for crossing all their T's and dotting all their I's, and taking a chance on trying something different to pursue the all American dream!! One thing that hasn't been mentioned though, (unless I missed it), is the capacity. Does anyone know what the capacity (number of people, not weight) is?? Just curious.

fatlazyless 08-14-2018 05:34 PM

:cheers:.......eighty customers capacity is what I recall reading in The Dive-face book ......so, that probably indicates it needs to have 80 CG-approved pfd's on-board and easily accessible as well ....... remember the sinking of the HMS Titanic in 1912 ....... also, the length of the barge is something close to 60' ...... and the width is what ....anyone know? ...... and, how much does it pay for an annual registration sticker ..... just out of curiosity?:cheers:

Is it a boat ..... is it a floating building ..... what is it ...... and what does it do to make money after Labor Day ..... maybe run bingo nights on the upper deck?:cheers: ...... big bingo night at The Dive!:cheers:

Hillcountry 08-14-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal Coon (Post 300165)
To the dismay of many on this thread, it seems as though that those in charge of the Dive have laid out a pretty thorough business plan for success, and didn't just "build this ugly barge" and "hope" for the best. I'm not surprised, especially with the amount of investment. Maybe now, (although I doubt it), all the armchair quarterbacking can cease a little bit and give the Dive some credit for crossing all their T's and dotting all their I's, and taking a chance on trying something different to pursue the all American dream!! One thing that hasn't been mentioned though, (unless I missed it), is the capacity. Does anyone know what the capacity (number of people, not weight) is?? Just curious.

75 souls...;)

Rusty 08-14-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 300166)
:cheers:.......eighty customers capacity is what I recall reading in The Dive-face book ......also, the length of the barge is something close to 60' ...... and the width is what ....anyone know? ...... and, how much does it pay for an annual registration sticker ..... just out of curiosity?:cheers:

Is it a boat ..... is it a floating building ..... what is it ...... and what does it do to make money after Labor Day ..... maybe run bingo nights on the upper deck?:cheers: ...... big bingo night at The Dive!:cheers:

Well FLL, because you always make the most sense with your comments, here is what the LDS said about the size of the floating restaurant/bar:

Seaplane Pilot 08-14-2018 07:16 PM

This seems appropriate...
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UTK57dJc_pU

The Real BigGuy 08-15-2018 10:24 AM

I see a major issue in the LDS article, . . don’t have space to stock enough beer for a busy day.” Oh my [emoji481][emoji481][emoji481] . A major planning flaw or a lack of understanding of the local community’s capacity to consume? [emoji482][emoji482][emoji482]


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Biggd 08-15-2018 11:26 AM

We've given this thing plenty of free publicity anyway.

Hillcountry 08-15-2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 300209)
I see a major issue in the LDS article, . . don’t have space to stock enough beer for a busy day.” Oh my [emoji481][emoji481][emoji481] . A major planning flaw or a lack of understanding of the local community’s capacity to consume? [emoji482][emoji482][emoji482]


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You would think there would be room on that thing somewhere for a supersized ice chest like the beer girls at bike week use...plenty of room for a couple hundred more beers...

The Real BigGuy 08-16-2018 06:57 AM

Since they only get 5mph out of 2 250 hp outboards I’d sacrifice an engine and 2.5 mph for a bigger beer cooler!

@morebeer!! (What the heck does “@“ mean anyway?)


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Newbiesaukee 08-16-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 300293)
Since they only get 5mph out of 2 250 hp outboards I’d sacrifice an engine and 2.5 mph for a bigger beer cooler!

@morebeer!! (What the heck does “@“ mean anyway?)


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Is it the predecessor to #morebeer?:):)

fatlazyless 08-16-2018 02:01 PM

a little background music on the @
 
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_sign the @ was on an 1899 Underwood typewriter, and where were you, at that time?.

JADAQ 08-16-2018 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 300317)
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_sign the @ was on an 1899 Underwood typewriter, and where were you, at that time?.

Sweet baby Jesus, thanks for clarifying that.. now I’ll be able to sleep tonight!

Rusty 08-16-2018 05:56 PM

Come one, come all
 
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Looks like The Dive will be filmed by NH CHRONICLE tomorrow.
This post is on their facebook page:

Taz 08-16-2018 10:09 PM

the Dive moving around
 
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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 298674)
I don't think it is an eye sore but I also think they need to move around the lake out of respect for the residents of Sleepers.

Hopefully for your sake they are just staying near WOW for a test period then will start alternating locations

Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.

kawishiwi 08-16-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 300337)
Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.

Its going to be permanently, or semi-permanently, tied up at a waterside location within 3 years.

joey2665 08-17-2018 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 300337)
Does anyone still think the dive is going to move around? Except for a ticketed event or private function it appears the Dive will anchor in Smalls. It will take at least 2 - 2 1/2 hrs to get to Braun. At least 10 miles and it travels 5 mph tops and that is if weather is favorable. At least that to get to the Margate plus would have to leave very early morning to avoid channel traffic. By their own admission on their FB page when anyone asks when are they going to anchor somewhere else they answer,"its a long ride elsewhere" They say they need proximity to Smalls for supplies and to shuttle employees. Looks like residents of the Smalls cove area will have to endure the view.



Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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Taz 08-17-2018 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300343)
Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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Give them a chance to anchor where other than Smalls? They need a sand bar to "spud" as they say and to allow customers to walk to the Dive. That leaves Braun and the Margate. Braun is a 2 1/2 HR ride 1 way in favorable weather. They said they need proximity to WAM for supplies and shuttling employees. Margate same factors plus must navigate channel early morning to avoid 2 way boat traffic. All of the above is by the Dive own admission. They have pretty much said Smalls is their anchor location. So where else will they anchor?

Rusty 08-17-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300343)
Give them a chance. They have only been operating a few weeks and didn’t get a whole season in this year. I hope they are using this first abbreviated season to work out all their kinks and next season will be different.

I have passed by quite a few times and have been there once. It is crowded at times obviously especially from Friday to Sunday but in my opinion they spent 600k and will need to move around to increase business and awareness. Not everyone is on this forum. Lol.


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Yup..they spent the "better part of" 1M.

Hillcountry 08-17-2018 06:38 AM

Passing beneath the Wiers Channl bridge yesterday I turned back to look at the distance between the water and the bridge and even though I had thought the Dive wouldn’t fit under previously, now I think it might fit.
Of course, actually The Dive actually going through the channel is another “thing” entirely.

joey2665 08-17-2018 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 300346)
Give them a chance to anchor where other than Smalls? They need a sand bar to "spud" as they say and to allow customers to walk to the Dive. That leaves Braun and the Margate. Braun is a 2 1/2 HR ride 1 way in favorable weather. They said they need proximity to WAM for supplies and shuttling employees. Margate same factors plus must navigate channel early morning to avoid 2 way boat traffic. All of the above is by the Dive own admission. They have pretty much said Smalls is their anchor location. So where else will they anchor?



Yes that’s what I am saying. Give them a chance to work out their issues including supplies and storage and hopefully next season they will venture to other sand bars. Like Margate, Braun and Patrician Shores.

I to not think it is fair for them to stay in one location but they are a legal permitted business and with any new business adjustments and changes need to be made especially in year one. They have NEVER said they are definitely not leaving Smalls Cove.

I wish them great success but at the same time move around as not to disturb the Smalls Cove area everyday.


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Taz 08-17-2018 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300351)
Yes that’s what I am saying. Give them a chance to work out their issues including supplies and storage and hopefully next season they will venture to other sand bars. Like Margate, Braun and Patrician Shores.

I to not think it is fair for them to stay in one location but they are a legal permitted business and with any new business adjustments and changes need to be made especially in year one. They have NEVER said they are definitely not leaving Smalls Cove.

I wish them great success but at the same time move around as not to disturb the Smalls Cove area everyday.


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The Dive has said on their FB page that WAM/Smalls is their home base, business has very good and it makes the most sense for them to anchor at Smalls. I don't see how you work out how long it takes to get to other sand bars. You can't change distance and they have to repower to change speed and it's already designed for 2 250 outboards. They will have to figure out how to supply enough for a whole day. You can't change shuttling employees unless who boards the Dive works the entire day. I think all the logistical challenges make it not worth anchoring elsewhere. I wish them luck also. I just don't see any other good options to anchor given these issues.

joey2665 08-17-2018 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 300355)
The Dive has said on their FB page that WAM/Smalls is their home base, business has very good and it makes the most sense for them to anchor at Smalls. I don't see how you work out how long it takes to get to other sand bars. You can't change distance and they have to repower to change speed and it's already designed for 2 250 outboards. They will have to figure out how to supply enough for a whole day. You can't change shuttling employees unless who boards the Dive works the entire day. I think all the logistical challenges make it not worth anchoring elsewhere. I wish them luck also. I just don't see any other good options to anchor given these issues.



If your correct then very poor business planning especially after spending 600k [emoji33]. From a financial point of view I don’t think they will be able prosper by staying just in Small’s and if the neighbors start to complain it could get ugly.


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Taz 08-17-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 300359)
If your correct then very poor business planning especially after spending 600k [emoji33]. From a financial point of view I don’t think they will be able prosper by staying just in Small’s and if the neighbors start to complain it could get ugly.


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I agree with you on this. Given the owners BIO as a marine construction manager, extensive lake and barge experience, diver, coast Guard he should have forseen the issue getting to other areas of the lake with that design. Having experience creating a successfull tapas bar the owner should have for seen the issue with supplying the Dive for distance and shuttling employees. Us armchair quarterbacks can only speculate. Only time will tell how it will work out.

Shreddy 08-17-2018 08:57 AM

I recently heard they ordered four mercury verado 400r's to install during the offseason.

The Real BigGuy 08-17-2018 11:23 AM

Wonder if adding a tow boat would help for Braun & Margate or is the barge hull the limiting factor?


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Momo 08-17-2018 05:31 PM

The Dive has already gone in for the night..... Friday night at 6:30?

baygo 08-17-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 300363)
I agree with you on this. Given the owners BIO as a marine construction manager, extensive lake and barge experience, diver, coast Guard he should have forseen the issue getting to other areas of the lake with that design. Having experience creating a successfull tapas bar the owner should have for seen the issue with supplying the Dive for distance and shuttling employees. Us armchair quarterbacks can only speculate. Only time will tell how it will work out.

Which tapas bar? I love tapas:liplick:

Outdoorsman 08-17-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Momo (Post 300405)
The Dive has already gone in for the night..... Friday night at 6:30?

There is a storm/flash flood warning tonight. It is the responsible thing to do.

BTW, I notice that all but 1 of your posts are "dive" bashing. Agenda much? (I do not expect to see a reply)


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