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strum 09-26-2018 11:30 AM

Doing this on a Tuesday in October?????? Who is going to go!

GBGX2 10-02-2018 01:50 PM

On their way to Alton Bay, 10/2/18 !
 
https://www.facebook.com/thedivelake...video_explicit

fatlazyless 10-02-2018 02:25 PM

Sure seems like the time, money and effort to build The Dive would have been better spent constructing a dredge barge for working the shallow Alaskan coastal waters, sucking up pay dirt muck from the bottom of the Bering Sea, looking for gold. Who knows, maybe it will get converted into a dredge, and go to the Bering Sea …… talk about a slow voyage from here to Alaska?

In Alaska, they scream: Gold, we got yellow color showing in the box!

In Alton, NH, they scream: Wanna go visit The Dive and get a beer for 12-dollars!

Hillcountry 10-02-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GBGX2 (Post 302999)

Only thing I can say is why? Maybe they contracted with someone for off season docking?

Momo 10-02-2018 05:05 PM

Booze Cruise
 
There isn’t enough booze in the bay to go out on the Dive barge on a night like tonight. Kudos to those who do go out.... at least your beer will be cold😀

Taz 10-02-2018 06:08 PM

DIVE Kareoke
 
The Dive just announced after driving all the way to Alton town docks, they were greeted by Alton police and were not permitted to use the town docks to board passengers, supplies, can not use the docks for anything to do with their cruise. They didn't arrange permission with the town prior to the event? What is wrong with the owners? They then had to return to WAM to board and leave from there and cruise is now 7 -10, and they missed out on the DJ because they couldn't reach him before they left Alton.

$20 just to board, $12 - $14 for overpriced average cocktails in the pouring rain with only partial cover from the rain. It's a Tuesday also. I don't think they thought this through at all.

tis 10-02-2018 06:12 PM

Somebody posted a picture of it in the Bay. It looked very lonely.

fatlazyless 10-02-2018 08:11 PM

If only The Dive can land a $25,000/tv episode gig with the Discovery Channel for a reality tv show on-board The Dive ..... doing what the Dive does best ..... floating around the lake ..... and drinking ..... another week on-board The Dive ... glug-glug-glug.

Patofnaud 10-02-2018 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 303027)
The Dive just announced after driving all the way to Alton town docks, they were greeted by Alton police and we're not permitted to use the town docks to board passengers, supplies, can not use the docks for anything to do with their cruise.

Sigh.. Folks trying to make a living and folks whining about everything ruining it for others. I'm sure there were so many other folks wanting to use those docks tonight. :rolleye2: :rolleye2:

It's either the boats are too fast and they are ruining the lake, or they are too slow and ruin the lake. NIMBY.

Descant 10-02-2018 10:02 PM

Alton law enforcement
 
Obviously not friendly to business, as are most administrators of town docks. e.g. Gilford, Laconia, etc. I'm a little surprised that the Dive didn't foresee this. At the same time, it would have been nice on a rainy night in October, for the police to give the Dive a ticket for $100 when they returned at the end of the cruise instead of totally preventing it. After all, until they started boarding passengers, no law was broken and nobody was hurt. Regardless, a phone call in either direction would have been a better plan.

fatlazyless 10-03-2018 01:53 AM

If they phoned Alton Town Hall, "hellooooooo, can we use your dock? ....... the presumed answer would be "sorry, no", but if they just do it, maybe it will slide by and get it done ..... ok?

What's a super-duper, totally awesome business plan for The Dive? If The Dive was really smart thinking, it would invade Downing's Landing at the southern most tip of Alton Bay, tie up to the dock there, raise their flag, and declare Downing's Landing to be their permanent, forever home. Is so nice to have a place to call home, and that shaky-waky state dock would probably get rebuilt a whole lot sooner... ha-ha-ha.

tis 10-03-2018 05:04 AM

I know in Wolfeboro the Mount and Winni Belle and Millie B (Boat Museum) all have to go to the town to get permission to use the docks.

Skip 10-03-2018 06:32 AM

Ordinance was enacted by Alton voters
 
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Originally Posted by Descant (Post 303048)
Obviously not friendly to business, as are most administrators of town docks. e.g. Gilford, Laconia, etc. I'm a little surprised that the Dive didn't foresee this. At the same time, it would have been nice on a rainy night in October, for the police to give the Dive a ticket for $100 when they returned at the end of the cruise instead of totally preventing it. After all, until they started boarding passengers, no law was broken and nobody was hurt. Regardless, a phone call in either direction would have been a better plan.

Actually the attached ordinance that prevents this type of activity was passed by the voters of Alton at a March 14th, 1990 town meeting.

AC2717 10-03-2018 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 303057)
Actually the attached ordinance that prevents this type of activity was passed by the voters of Alton at a March 14th, 1990 town meeting.

wouldn't The Dive be a taxpayer in Alton?

joey2665 10-03-2018 07:55 AM

"taxpayer" is a broad term in this regulation. It does not specify residential or commercial so I agree that The Dive is a taxpayer.

I did not see anywhere on FB were they posted a video of the activity on the cruise last night. Just wondering again with it being during the week, inclement weather and not in season how well it was attended.

brk-lnt 10-03-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AC2717 (Post 303060)
wouldn't The Dive be a taxpayer in Alton?

While you could probably argue that they are a taxpayer, it does not appear that they applied for the permit that is also required.

chillininnh 10-03-2018 09:20 AM

I don't see them ever getting permission in Alton or anywhere else. Yeah, it's October and the docks are empty and the parking plentiful. If you let them dock now, would you be obligated then to let them do it in season when the docks are full and the parking tight? How would you like to own a seasonal business near the public dock and have all the parking spaces gobbled up by Dive customers?

Woodsy 10-03-2018 09:41 AM

No Compete Clause?
 
I told the people running the Dive when they were planning to use the Laconia town docks, that the City of Laconia would deny them access. (Prior experience with friends wanting the 'Belle to pick up passengers for a wedding). They also don't let the Tiki Boats pick up there either.

I think its funny they (the Dive) are surprised... No doubt the same goes for Alton.

I think they have a "no compete" clause with the Mount....

Woodsy

fatlazyless 10-03-2018 10:20 AM

:offtopic:Considering that the Coast Guard considers stand up paddle boards to be a vessel, requiring a pfd and a whislte, as well as a white light at night; is it ok by the City of Laconia for me to access myself and a stand up paddle board from the Weirs Beach town boat docks into the lake, there, and paddle out into the lake?

TiltonBB 10-03-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 303091)
:offtopic:Considering that the Coast Guard considers stand up paddle boards to be a vessel, requiring a pfd and a whislte, as well as a white light at night; is it ok by the City of Laconia for me to access myself and a stand up paddle board from the Weirs Beach town boat docks into the lake, there, and paddle out into the lake?

Just curious: How do you see the comparison of your personal use of a town dock with the commercial use of the dock? The logic escapes me.

Hillcountry 10-03-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 303093)
Just curious: How do you see the comparison of your personal use of a town dock with the commercial use of the dock? The logic escapes me.

Lol...the fat, lazy one rarely displays the use of logic in his posts. More like hitting a “tennis ball of random thoughts” back and forth until he goes out of bounds...:rolleye1:

tis 10-03-2018 11:55 AM

You really don't think the town of Alton would let them use it long enough to just pick up and drop off passengers. I don't know what harm that would do once in a while. How can they allow one commercial vessel and not another?

fatlazyless 10-03-2018 12:12 PM

.... or something like that!
 
Woodsy's post was about The Dive not being able to use the Laconia-Weirs Beach town boat docks, and my thinking was about accessing the water with a stand up paddle board from the same location, the Laconia-Weirs Beach town boat docks.

And, it was prefaced with the Off Topic emoticon.

Sups are a different type of a vessel than what is usually considered to be a vessel, because weighing just 20-30-40lbs, they are portable and can be carried under your arm for quite a distance, like down the steep steps from the Weirs' boardwalk, to the docks, to the water, and launched into the water.

This is one of those issues somewhat similar to The Dive using the Alton Town Dock where it may be better to just go for it without asking permission first, and a lot depends on what happens at the time it gets done ……. or something like that!

When you see flashing blue lights awaiting at the town dock, you know that 'just going for it' ain't gonna happen today.

Is one of dos tings …… Mt TiltonBB and Mr Hillcountry!

Biggd 10-03-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 303102)
Lol...the fat, lazy one rarely displays the use of logic in his posts. More like hitting a “tennis ball of random thoughts” back and forth until he goes out of bounds...:rolleye1:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

upthesaukee 10-03-2018 06:35 PM

Mount Washington docks at their own dock.
 
You really don't think the town of Alton would let them use it long enough to just pick up and drop off passengers. I don't know what harm that would do once in a while. How can they allow one commercial vessel and not another?

The Mount Washington Dock in Alton Bay is owned by the Winnipesaukee Flagship Corporation and is therefore private property. The property is assessed at $301,200 which is up from last year at $287,600.

The Town of Alton is not playing favorites. The Dive simply did not get the required permit.

Perhaps the Dive could have also reached out to W.F.Corp and got permission to use the Mount's dock.

Dave.

fatlazyless 10-03-2018 06:38 PM

Say hey ...... here is a totally, totally, totally, totally, totally super-duper idea for The Dive ...... go get that Keno 603 action going on-board The Dive.

Is possible The Dive and Keno 603 could be a good fit ....... something to do while waiting for your adult beverage ..... plus, probably the state gives you a free Keno promo sign which can go on the side of their barge.

Play Keno here ....... and win big! ...... Keno-garten!

FlyingScot 10-03-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 303062)
"taxpayer" is a broad term in this regulation. It does not specify residential or commercial so I agree that The Dive is a taxpayer.

I did not see anywhere on FB were they posted a video of the activity on the cruise last night. Just wondering again with it being during the week, inclement weather and not in season how well it was attended.

And just what taxes would the Dive be paying to Alton?

Barney Bear 10-04-2018 06:10 AM

"A Floating Dive"
 
The Dive will be featured on NH Chronicle at 7:00 PM tonight on Channel 9. 🖥

tis 10-04-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee (Post 303143)
You really don't think the town of Alton would let them use it long enough to just pick up and drop off passengers. I don't know what harm that would do once in a while. How can they allow one commercial vessel and not another?

The Mount Washington Dock in Alton Bay is owned by the Winnipesaukee Flagship Corporation and is therefore private property. The property is assessed at $301,200 which is up from last year at $287,600.

The Town of Alton is not playing favorites. The Dive simply did not get the required permit.

Perhaps the Dive could have also reached out to W.F.Corp and got permission to use the Mount's dock.

Dave.

I did not know that Dave. Thanks for the info. The town docks in Wolfeboro are owned by the town. I don't think the commercial vessels pay a fee to the town to use the docks but I could be wrong. I do know they need permission.

The Real BigGuy 10-04-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 303069)
While you could probably argue that they are a taxpayer, it does not appear that they applied for the permit that is also required.



Why do people assume they are an Alton “taxpayer”. As a floating business that apparently doesn’t own dock space anywhere doesn’t it then become a question of where the business is domiciled?


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joey2665 10-04-2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 303151)
And just what taxes would the Dive be paying to Alton?

Making the assumption for this conversation that their business is located in the Town of Alton since they are currently docked in Alton. Also what if the owners reside in Alton? Nevertheless as worded "taxpayer is a broad term"

webmaster 10-07-2018 06:08 AM

The Dive on Chronicle
 
https://www.wmur.com/article/thursda...46520/23610324

Woody38 10-07-2018 07:32 AM

Just saw the Chronicle piece. The Dive looks great, hope they do well in the future.
We stopped at Shibley's this summer, can't say we will return. The place was filthy, service terrible and our food didn't look anything like that shown in the video. Actually it was not appetizing and the taste was no better. Assuming they did a bang up job for the Chronicle.

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I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

fatlazyless 10-07-2018 08:07 AM

.... looking for a home?
 
If only The Dive had a home ..... a real home ...... someplace it would always be ..... when not out cruising the lake ....... someplace where people could drive past, and think to themselves, there's The Dive..... if only The Dive had a home ..... attached to the land by a walking dock ..... close to parking ..... someplace seen by cars from the nearby road ..... if only The Dive had a home!


Where-o-where could that be?


Seems like the Center Harbor Inn may be just the spot?


Would The Dive business help the Center Harbor Inn business? Is not unknown for a waterfront inn to have an attached restaurant/bar biz.


That location would probably, definitely help The Dive business. For one thing, the white barge vessel that is The Dive can be seen from Rt-25 while driving a car, down the end of the long dock at Center Harbor Inn. It could put the lake to work for both the Inn and The Dive.


....don't-ya-just-a-know ..... that un-drivered, 100-yard, pickup truck, backwards downhill roll-a-way that just happened on Wednesday was really a message from God to indicate .... the Center Harbor Inn is the spot for The Dive ....... shaaaaaa-zzzaaaammmmm and bottoms up!!!

Barney Bear 10-07-2018 10:56 AM

No Room at the Inn
 
The Dive is way too large to be located in Center Harbor!!!

jbolty 10-07-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 303328)
If only The Dive had a home ..... a real home ...... someplace it would always be ..... when not out cruising the lake ....... someplace where people could drive past, and think to themselves, there's The Dive..... if only The Dive had a home ..... attached to the land by a walking dock ..... close to parking ..... someplace seen by cars from the nearby road ..... if only The Dive had a home!


Where-o-where could that be?


Seems like the Center Harbor Inn may be just the spot?


Would The Dive business help the Center Harbor Inn business? Is not unknown for a waterfront inn to have an attached restaurant/bar biz.


That location would probably, definitely help The Dive business. For one thing, the white barge vessel that is The Dive can be seen from Rt-25 while driving a car, down the end of the long dock at Center Harbor Inn. It could put the lake to work for both the Inn and The Dive.


....don't-ya-just-a-know ..... that un-drivered, 100-yard, pickup truck, backwards downhill roll-a-way that just happened on Wednesday was really a message from God to indicate .... the Center Harbor Inn is the spot for The Dive ....... shaaaaaa-zzzaaaammmmm and bottoms up!!!

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear (Post 303341)
The Dive is way too large to be located in Center Harbor!!!



not a bad idea. There isn't really any bar & grill competitor in town to complain and there's plenty of room.

Water Camper 10-08-2018 12:39 PM

Shibley's
 
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Originally Posted by Woody38 (Post 303327)
Just saw the Chronicle piece. The Dive looks great, hope they do well in the future.
We stopped at Shibley's this summer, can't say we will return. The place was filthy, service terrible and our food didn't look anything like that shown in the video. Actually it was not appetizing and the taste was no better. Assuming they did a bang up job for the Chronicle.

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I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

Have been to Shibley's several times this summer. Found the experience enjoyable, food was good and view from the deck was excellent.

My 2 cents,
Bill

joey2665 10-08-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody38 (Post 303327)
Just saw the Chronicle piece. The Dive looks great, hope they do well in the future.
We stopped at Shibley's this summer, can't say we will return. The place was filthy, service terrible and our food didn't look anything like that shown in the video. Actually it was not appetizing and the taste was no better. Assuming they did a bang up job for the Chronicle.

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I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

Went there twice this summer and both experiences were very good. The service was a little slow but after chatting with the hostess, they have had the same experience as most restaurants in the area, lack of available help. I cannot blame a restaurant for slow service when they cannot find enough staff to hire.

fatlazyless 10-10-2018 09:47 AM

... just cry'n in their beer?
 
Most likely, the Town of Center Harbor's Board of Selectmen as well as the nearby waterfront neighbors would probably, like most likely ...... be very much against The Dive's permanently doing business down the end of that long dock at the Center Harbor Inn.

Is just too too bad for The Dive, when no one wants you, and you is a business like that without a real home, stuck away on an uninhabited stretch of sandbar, at the entrance to the WAM inlet .... everyone is just cry'n in their beer?

Oh well ..... life must be very tough ..... when you ain't got no home .... and nobody wants you around ..... so's everyone ...... puh-lease go visit The Dive and at least have a freebie glass of courtesy water along with some freebie bar pretzels ..... just to cheer them up!:emb:

ApS 10-15-2018 02:32 AM

Bow Wave and Wake...!
 
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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 301544)
My original suspicions have now been confirmed. A Facebook post from the Dive Facebook page posted on I Boat on Lake Winnipesaukee (IBOLW) confirmed that Dive owners have told WAM members that the Dive is so underpowered it will take 3 hrs to get to any other sandbar and it was not suppose to be kept at WAM. Not sure where else it would be kept. Because of this it will not be moving from Smalls anytime soon. I also agree with Phantom. I do not see the Dive surviving. Unless they can do enough charters, private functions to supplement the sandbar days and that is if they can repower it as it can not get out of its own way now. Season is too short. I don't think there will be enough customers to brave the cold water to walk to the Dive early and late season. That leaves July and August and maybe a weekend or 2 in September but even then many people stop coming to the lake after Labor Day. There has also been a lot of banter on IBOLW regarding the marine patrol ticketing many patrons because of there being more boats at Smalls so boats are anchored too close to shore in a NRZ, too many boats tied together etc. Home owners have been calling marine patrol to complain and marine patrol has responded with much more ticketing at Smalls than ever before. I did give it a try myself. The server Naomi was very good, the staff very attentive. However, the drinks were average in quality, size and above average in price. The food no better than any other establishment at any of the town docks. I agree with others its a "novelty" and I would not go back when I have my own boat, can serve my own cold beer and cocktails on my own boat, serve my own BBQ food on my own boat for much less money and go somewhere much quieter to do it. I wish them well and hope I am wrong but at this time they have a lot issues to resolve to make it work.

I failed to recall what power unit they had, but a work barge came by with a big bow wave.

"The Dive" should look into this one! :cool:

https://i.servimg.com/u/f91/18/11/38/95/fullsc33.jpg


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