At the bottom of www.wowtrail.com, under Design and Safety, it says the fence is four feet high and would have a six inch space below it to accomodate the chipmunks and squirrels and small animals, so not sure if that means a total height of four or 4 1/2'.

Having that ugly chainlink fence is a huge challenge, and cannot expect any waterfront property owner to want to live with that interrupting their view. The 4' chainlink fence is a big NO-GO so maybe they want to go with those grey granite rectangular cobble blocks set into concrete and about six inches high to create an attractive grey granite border as opposed to a fence.

And, the Wide Open Saloon can run a special: For just ten dollars, you get a Sam Adams beer and a tax deductable receipt showing you just paid for one granite cobble-block!

www.jlfstone.com/cobblestone.html
www.swensongranite.com

nothing against you FLL, but yeah I should care more about the chipmunks so they will not be inconvience, again not directing to you FLL but the wonderful people proposing this and the State,
Not to mention all the leave and tree debris that would be caught up on the fence every year and now all the added costs to maintain it, but the chipmunks can get back and fourth and that is what they care about

sorry this thing just gets me heated and my property is not even affected by this thing

Page 17 of today's July 21 LaDaSun has a report on the legal back & forth going on between Brandi and her insurance provider, Lloyd's of London. It's pretty complicated stuff ...(?): "In court filing, insurance company claims Baldi didn't meet fire prevention standards of her policy." ...is the title of the article.

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/story...de-open-saloon

Surprise....this link actually works....now I think I'll go read the article and try to think of something to say that is both intelligent and relevant! Like wow!

Roll down to page nine, and there's a close-up photo of the burned building taken from an airplane.

Wide Open (Saloon) to the weather!
 

That would be this one: http://www.winnipesaukee.com/photopo...on_9673AsW.jpg

http://www.laconiadailysun.com/story...lys-baldi-suit

Oh well, what can you say?

Any one have any updates on this eye sore

Still no news...
 

Maybe the next northeaster will knock it down once and for good. Then, no-one will have to open up their check book to tear it down.

For what the owner was paying in property tax's the last two years could have paid for the demolition. Maybe the NH should create the Ugly View Tax for bringing down the value of nearby property owners properties and thus causing a lost opportunity to tax those nearby property owners more.

I though I saw an article in one of local papers (LDS?) aweek or two ago that a judge had ordered it be taken down by a specific date. The specifics did not stick in my memory. :(

A judge did order it to be taken down, and the owner of the property has appealed that ruling in a higher court.

The appeal claims that the fire damaged property can be repaired and does not need to be torn down which is probably true if you take a good look at the building. The fire dept got there fast and put out the fire fast.

Citizen article
 

She's going to the Supreme Court with her appeal. This should be the last time she's able to go to court on this. I guess we'll find out shortly after Feb 16th.

http://www.citizen.com/news/laconia_...a4bcf6878.html

What people will do to draw out the inevitable
 

What people will do to draw out the inevitable and waste our taxpayer dollars in the meantime.

Maybe FlyGuy can give that owner a free tour of her property from above. No matter what angle you look at that property, the building is a loss.

PS Make sure someone reminds her to take off those rose colored glasses before she takes a look down at that big wide open hole in the roof.

State should take it over
 

Give it to the city, they can bulldoze it into a parking lot and recoup some of the money they loose every year by letting bike week drag on for so many days.

Does anyone know why this thing still stands? Didn't the courts order it down. No arsonist arrested yet.

Also is the roundabout at the Weirs junction Rt 3 and 11B going to be built this year?

It still stands because the owner appealed that court ruling and no decision on the appeal has been made yet(that I know of anyway). Hopefully they are forced to knock the eyesore down soon.

Yes- they are starting the roundabout this year-unfortunately.

The town ordered it taken down based on a zoning ordinance instead of relying on a report from an engineer. I expect the court to decide in favor of the property owner (to decide whether to demolish or repair based on engineering results). In the meantime we get to look at the charred remains.

Take it down
 

All you have to do is look at it. No way would anyone want to try and repair that building. Must have something to do with insurance coverage.

Building's condition appears worse in the last few days. I've seen now what appears to be a contractor's office trailer out back in the fenced in areas.

How can this family (Baldi) get away? News reports say that Lloyds insurance will not pay out while an investigation is on-going. I think it's unforgivable that Fire Marshals Office has not concluded. The weather has serious affects continually! I go by frequently. Guess what? There was no real conclusion made public to the fire that destroyed the former Lobster Pound Restaurant, maybe dozen years ago! Maybe this is similar??? Just total speculation. The same family owns drive in, and the colonial movie theatre in Laconia.

I have seen survey crews at the intersection just over the Weirs bridge. I speculate for the possible Roundabout. I have driven roundabouts in many places, smaller and larger than one in Meredith; I believe the State made a big mistake: the diameter should be a little larger! The waits get too long on the inbound roads.

Roundabout or rotary?

roundabout
 

not enough room for a rotary.

From memory, as best I recall, the roundabout in Meredith is 120' diameter, and the Weirs roundabout which is to be built this year will be 110' in diameter.......or something like that.

And, a small piece of the former Karl's Fine Food parking lot will be used for the roundabout.


That vacant lot has been for sale for maybe five years now.


"Drastically Reduced" is what the real estate sales sign says on a property for sale that is close to the Cumberland Farm store......everytime I see that sign......it makes me giggle....."Drastically Reduced"

The Meredith roundabout about is 130' and the new one in the Weirs will be 120' you can find more information here.http://www.nh.gov/dot/projects/lacon...june310_cr.pdf

I know I am pushing this more off topic, and I am sorry, but I just hope they do not plan on doing this work this spring and summer

Work starting soon
 

The signs are up and the pavement's been marked. They plan on starting construction next month. :(

Sorry
 

I cannot see anything good coming from this project.
Except it should have traffic backed up all the way to Shaws during bike weekend. :rolleye2:

My mom's family summered in Laconia quite a bit from the 1920's on before moving to Moultonborough. In fact my aunt (relative of M/S Mt Washington Capt Avery) was raised in Laconia and her mom had property adjacent to the lake just north of the Weirs. I've always been told that there was a public access path along the lake there in front of the houses years ago, so a bike trail wouldn't be much different along the RR tracks. Mom is in a nursing home now and I'd have to go through dozens of photo albums but i'm pretty sure there is a photo of the lakeshore path. http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ad.php?p=15574
Lin

Agree 100%
 

Enough already! This has been going on for far too long........at what point do all the merchants in the area say our customer counts are going down, businesses are hurting, people are turned off by the poor image and families aren't going to want to frequent an area that looks so unkept! At this rate, the Weirs will become the next Revere Beach! I'm with you LongBay...now that the lake is almost ice free, perhaps a freak snow storm in April will solve everyone's problem....come on noreaster!!!

what they really need to do is level the saloon and build a casino where the drive-in is. Just think of the possibilities... lol

Most likely, the burnt out property is still required to pay a large property tax every six months based on what is probably an over-priced value of the land and possibly the burnt out structure.

That real estate sign just up the hill on Route 3, across from the now closed Cumberland gas station; "DRASTICALLY REDUCED PRICE" is a very unusual sign for selling a property. While it is not uncommon to see "Newly Priced" as opposed to "Price Reduced" .......seeing "Drastically Reduced Price" is an eye catcher.......however despite the drastically reduced price......the property has yet to get sold.

Is there any truth to the rumor that the six acre, recently clear-cut treeless dirt field, just south of the Cumberland gas station, is going to become a storage rental space business aka similar to "Storage Wars" on the Discovery TV.........that would be a very unusual land use for a location like that.....situated on a nice commercial location overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee. If that really happens......a storage business.....that does not say anything good about the concept of "Motorcycle Week" and what it has done to the Weirs on a long term basis.

A storage business.......... in that 6-acre field..........yikes?

Cumby's is closed?

The gas pumps are fenced out and closed and it looks like the gas pumps are getting a big repair done by a gasoline station service company named Gaftek ......maybe water got into the Cumby gas tanks underground....or something? Without the gas there's absolutely no reason for me to stop there. That gas station has a highly engineered gasoline leakage safety storage system....being located above Tower Street and Lake Winnipesaukee, the water resevoir for Laconia, and this years mud season has been incredibly wet and muddy.....so....I have no clue....but it seems pretty unusual that a newly constructed Cumby would need a gas storage repair at this time....however it indeed looks to be getting just that?


Back to the new to-be-built-this-year-2012 Weirs Roundabout. Neither the Plymouth or Mererdith roundabouts have any water irrigation and their dry perennial plantings all look like a field of dried out ugly weeds.

Maybe the new Weirs roundabout will include a lawn irrigation system, and become home to a decorative exotic showpiece roundabout garden that really really looks great ~ ~ ~ ~ !

...you mean like the storage place near the fire station in Moultonboro? Granted, it's not overlooking Lake Winnipesaukee, but...nice lake/mountain views, and I could never understand the logic of locating it there.

Only temporary-should be about another week according to their employees. They are remodeling making it like some newer stores with pastries and some type of frosty machine according to a sign they had last weekend.

Drive by this afternoon. New Cumberland's sign, not the blue/white plastic look. Looks like an attempt to look "green", as in conservation.

Saloon: definitely a trailer used for construction site office is placed in back. Large bulletin board device stands as if attached, and with lots papers.
Maybe demolition permit, building permits, etc. There was setting on edge of driveway to drive-in a series of concrete pipes. I did not get out of my vehicle, and was only briefly stopped in Lobster Pound parking lot.

Instead of speculating about the uses of other sites nearby, why not someone check it out at planning board office; minutes are public record!

Behind the burned eye-soar, the trailer and gear and piping makes the site look more & more like the office/staging area for Busby Construction of the roundabout just over the Bridge! (a little site rental income for owner!) Large back hoe was working the banking towards the mini golf park, left side as heading over bridge towards Weirs Fire Station.

I need to drive by later today and will observe.

I wish they would just knock it down and get it over with. It's been almost 2 years! How long is this whole thing gonna go on for??? Enough already! It's such an eyesore. I'm sure it has made property values in the area drop.

Definitely the contractor for roundabout; newspaper stories confirm.
Also, observations from drive Laconia > Meredith, this morning.

Guess we must live with the eyesore and the firemarshall's continuing investigation. Arson or not?

It's an utter embarrassment to the community, to the potential tourists and to city government who have allowed this debacle to continue! Hard to imagine Don Thurston and his brothers along with the Lobster Pound owners living with this pile of garbage much longer. If this is the standard the city lives with, it's onlly a matter of time before the entire area lowers its standards for cleanliness, presentation and quality of image!
Tear It Down NOW!

well said - TAKE IT DOWN

Another Prediction..
 

My next prediction on this debacle is The Wall at Fenway Park will come down before the Wide Open. So let's see what's still standing by end of day July 1st, 2012.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cFwhY9Wox0...ers_fenway.jpg