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glennsteely 01-27-2005 07:29 AM

Something For Everyone.......
 
upthesaukee......call it the Eagles defense, in all 4 corners of the field, constantly on the move, like tigers, stalking their prey (Brady)

DPG......a dynasty, or as I like to call it a die nasty, I believe is defined by a team winning 3 or more bowls in a decade, at least 2 of them being consecutive, it has nothing to do with winning streaks during the regular season, and I am here to tell you, you wont win that die nasty title in a game with the Eagles......

I AM SAM...SAMIAM......word on the street is, Donovan M. is having his hair braided in the shape of the old patriots helmet logo in honor of a great team that got so close, but still so far......

Flag.....first lets start with welcome to the forum.......second where are you from and what are your ties to the lake? You look like you are lost, if this was your first post, it looks like you were looking for www.ONE CRAZY FAN.com's forum. you are definately CRAZY to say New England has a far superior coach. Andy Reid is one of the greatest coaches ever to grace the game.....I am not worried about T.O. playing or not playing......Superbowls are won by defensive strategy, and that alone. Look at the raiders a few years ago, super high powered offense, No, and I mean NO defense......a trademark of the afc. The Pats weaknesses will be exposed in Jacksonville....and your dreams will have a final resting place.......Peace brother.
And by the way...that signature was a bumper sticker I saw at the lake, on a car with New Hampshire tags and guess what else.....A Patriots sticker in the back window......

Grant, great to hear from you and thanks for getting involved......you can see I am holding my own with these rabid Patriots fans......I love New England, just look at how passionate the people are....I already got the low down on T.O. and I think he will play, not many reps though......I dont think it matters much though, the EAGLES are playing on emotion and playing well....I am very proud of the hometeam and my confidence is HIGH and will remain so,even through these unfounded and undeserved attacks on my totally innocent self.......HAHAHA!!! :D Talk trash until the end!

and finally.....KTO a TKO for the Eagles win over the Patriots 35-17. ;) THE other day I was putting a PAT of butter on my potatoeS, when my wife asked me, WILL you pass the sour cream? i said yes but dont LOOSE your will for your diet...AND she replied, YOU too, now WILL you please pass it over here before i start to CRY....... :emb:

T.H.E. Binz 01-27-2005 09:43 AM

E - A - G - L - E - S
 
Sorry PAT-sies, but it will be Philadelphia 20, New England 17!

GO EAGLES!

glennsteely 01-27-2005 10:54 AM

T.H.E. Binz....
 
I admire your spirit.....now we have 5 votes......it will take a while but they will come around.....maybe T.O.'s next planned touchdown celebration dance will seal the deal.......Touchdown! Terrell Owens! as he goes to the goal post and pulls out his handy dandy electric screwdriver and mocks the Pats with an act of dancing while tightining the screws in his foot.......I think I will send that one in to the T.O. website......HAHA!!!!!!! :laugh:

KTO 01-27-2005 06:40 PM

A possible idea...
 
I have seen on other forums that have a particular theme may have a special board devoted to random talk that doesn't belong on the forum. I think it would be a good idea because there are always people wanting to start things such as sports, and if you don't want it on the lake boards, possibly created a board where you can talk about anything, that way it won't take up the boards relating to the lake. Oh well, just an idea!

webmaster 01-27-2005 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KTO
I have seen on other forums that have a particular theme may have a special board devoted to random talk that doesn't belong on the forum.

That idea was discussed in this thread and almost everyone that responded was against it.

glennsteely 01-28-2005 07:23 AM

I am againt it also.....
 
Ithink the people are right, and if the Eagles were not going to the superbowl I wouldnt even be posting this stuff, or if the Pats were not going I wouldnt be here either. I like the idea of this one time thing, and it is only because an area team has made it big. (your area) I dont think there is room for an all trash talking area on this forum, it is not what this site is all about. If we are voting now, I vote nay.....but please leave this thread until the Eagles or Patriots win this thing so we can have a little more fun while some fans are eating their extra large slices of humble pie......(you guys) :D

Mee-n-Mac 01-28-2005 10:52 PM

Post game dessert
 
Pie ... pie you say. :coolsm: I like pie. I've eaten pie but the only pie I'll be eating that Sunday is pizza pie, prefferably extra large slices from Guiseppe's. Now if I were you I'd be more concerned about your own after game dessert. Hmmm what would be appropriate with the Eagles defeat ? :laugh: May I suggest something from the avian food group, order Passiformes, family Corvidae. Perhaps some corvus brachyrhynchos. Yeah that would be the ticket ! I don't know where you can find this dish in your area (I suspect a lot of places come Superbowl Sunday) so I would be happy to prepare and send it to you. Just let me know how you like your crow cooked; would it be rare, medium or well done ? ;)

warren 01-28-2005 11:40 PM

tastycakes
 
how about some butterscotch krimpets to celebrate! go eagles, warren

glennsteely 01-29-2005 08:58 AM

And then there were 6.......
 
We are still holding our own here.......We are all about the underdog slot, us EAGLES fans that is......Our numbers have increased to 6, now that is what I call progress. The funny thing is, down here you couldnt buy a Patriots fan.......hmmm, but I have found at least 3 Eagles fans in New England territory (Grant and myself excluded) We live down here.......I dont know what is wrong with Cal, I am sure he is not a Pats fan, he just sounds a little frustrated with the EAGLES last few years.......He is a local in the EAGLES neck of the woods......or should I say, neck of the "used to be woods now over built and overpopulated area"........and by the way, I will eat my crow rare, if it comes to that. My question is, how would you like your cheesesteak, fried onions and cheese wiz? American, mayo and ketsup? Would anyone out there like to wager: a Philadelphia Cheesesteak on my part, from Jim's Steaks, on third and South. Shipped with the roll on the side on dry ice to anywhere in New England? What I want as a return wager is a Lobster roll from Waldo Peppers, Shipped (The same way) to my home in New Jersey. This should be interesting.
Just let me know, I will only take one taker......and I think there is a "lobster season" right? So we will have to set a date for shipments.....This could be a big forum event.......Cheesesteak / Lobster roll day. Cheesesteaks are never out of season.........HEY PEPPER......being from the Philly area, and owning Waldo peppers, do you make a "REAL" Philly cheesesteak up there? Everyone says they do, but I have never found anything close up there......Do you know Jim's steaks? How about Tony Luke's on oregon ave? I have never had the pleasure of going to your establishment, I saw it this summer, saw the plane as we rode by, but didnt know what it was......I have heard many good things though, and I will be there next year......we will have to talk.

Ok Pats fans...any takers? Humble pie anyone? Fumble pie Mr. Brady? How about some Stumble pie for the backs? Or bumble pie for the staff? Or crumble pie for the so called "die nasty" Mumble pie, for the media?

Until then fellow football and Lakelovers.....Stay warm. Glenn. ;)

Pepper 01-29-2005 10:17 AM

Football and Food!
 
Since the whole thread is against the regulations, I guess it won't hurt to stay :offtopic: for a few more minutes, so ...


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or should I say, neck of the "used to be woods now over built and overpopulated area"....
LOL! The main reason I moved from there to here!

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What I want as a return wager is a Lobster roll from Waldo Peppers, Shipped (The same way) to my home in New Jersey.
You'll have to choose - Traditional Style, or Hot with Drawn Butter!

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.....Cheesesteak / Lobster roll day.
Is EVERY DAY at Waldo Peppers!

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...HEY PEPPER......being from the Philly area, and owning Waldo peppers, do you make a "REAL" Philly cheesesteak up there? Everyone says they do, but I have never found anything close up there...
As close as it will ever get, anywhere! Shredded on the grille like Jim's does, with your choice of American, Provolone or Whiz. Now if only I could get the Amoroso's rolls, it would be PERFECT!

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...Do you know Jim's steaks?
My Favorite when I go to Philly!

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How about Tony Luke's on oregon ave?
Never been to this one!

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I have never had the pleasure of going to your establishment
:eek: Shame on you!

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...we will have to talk.
Indeed, we will!

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Humble pie anyone? Fumble pie Mr. Brady? How about some Stumble pie for the backs? Or bumble pie for the staff? Or crumble pie for the so called "die nasty" Mumble pie, for the media?
Had me rolling on the floor - Priceless!
;)

Now if only I could get my hands on some Scrapple, some Jelly Krimpets, a Federal Street Pretzel, and some Black Cherry Wishniak, I might just feel so overwhelmed that I'd root for both teams!

Frdxplorer 01-29-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepper
Now if only I could get my hands on some Scrapple, some Jelly Krimpets, a Federal Street Pretzel, and some Black Cherry Wishniak, I might just feel so overwhelmed that I'd root for both teams!

Pepper,
I can't offer any scrapple but we just got 3 loafs of Panhaus (spelling???). Prolly won't be up to the lake for a while but I'de be happy to bring ya some. I am assuming if you know what scrapple is you probably know Panhaus. Let me know if you don't and I'll fill ya in.

Pepper 01-29-2005 10:47 AM

Panhaus?
 
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Originally Posted by Frdxplorer
Pepper,
I am assuming if you know what scrapple is you probably know Panhaus. Let me know if you don't and I'll fill ya in.

Can't say I'm familiar with this, but I sure am curious! Is it similar to my beloved Scrapple?

Oh, how I long for a trip to Nifty Fifties for some Scrapple, and Eggs over-medium, with some REAL hash browns and homemade toast and fresh-squeezed orange juice! :)

Daggone it I'm hungry as a bear in spring now!

Rattlesnake Gal 01-29-2005 12:35 PM

A Good Valentine Gift For Yourself?
 
Not that I want to encourage you to root for the other team, but you can have all your items shipped to the you in the Lakes Region.

I think you can that Stuart’s Wishniak Black Cherry soda around here or at The Beverage Network

Just what is scrapple? The Culinary Sleuth will answer that.

You can get it at The Vermont Country Store or Arnold's Meats

Tastykake Jelly Krimpets

Or better yet, get everything here at Philly Food
Thanks for the education Pepper! Now I'm hungry too.

Grant 01-29-2005 04:36 PM

Philly Artery-Cloggers
 
Scrapple: Phenomenal stuff, but you don't want to know. Had some just yesterday morning for breakfast at Otto's brauhaus in Horsham.

Cheesesteak: Glennsteely...shame on you...Geno's, man! Blows Jim's and Pat's out of the proverbial water. I still love the story about John Kerry visiting and when asked if he wanted cheese on his steak, he replied, "yes, Swiss." Sorry, dude, they only come with 'merican or WIZ!

I'm gonna order a couple of 2-ft. Wawa hoagies and wash 'em down with some cold Yuengling Lager (just "lager" for the locals) next Sunday.

Now -- back to the Lake -- Will the Pats in the Bowl impact the fishing derby? Prolly not, seeing as the game is 6 pm Sunday. The perfect post-derby pastime! Wish I was gonna be up there for it.

glennsteely 01-29-2005 07:58 PM

Now we are talking.....
 
Pepper, I will be happy to ship you any of the items on your wish list...if you choose, and RG, the black cherry she is talking about is not Stewarts, it is canada dry, am I correct? Tastykakes are a philly thing, went to S. Carolina to visit some friends and that was the only request, "bring lots of tastykakes"........Grant, I dont care for Gino's or Pat's, just something about meat being sliced, instead of shredded on the grill......I dont think I should answer the scrapple question, hmmm, lets just say it tastes very, very good, and it will continue to taste good.......the less you know about what is in it. Pepper, Tony's is one of the best spots in the city for roast pork, roast beef, or chicken italiano (chicken cutlet on a long roll, with roasted peppers, broccoli rabe, and sharp provolone) a mean, but extremely tasty sandwich......it is right up the block from the oregon ave diner...you have to know where that is, the place that the line is around the corner on Sunday morning for sticky buns.....wow pepper, I wish I knew you were from the area sooner....we can talk about alot....we have something in common....food.....you like to make it, and I like to eat it!!!! Well, I am on my way to Dave and Busters...in Philly, right now, and I will be popping in Jim's for a steak later this evening, but I cant leave without some trash, so ......GO EAGLES !!!!!!

No takers on my friendly wager? Put your Lobster rolls and next day shipping where your mouth is.......so I can put my mouth on a tasty treat.......and Pepper, if I get a taker, it would be a traditional....Thanks. Glenn. :liplick:

Pepper 01-30-2005 12:16 AM

I'll be there again soon
 
Well, RG, your links are fabulous, BUT...

That Scrapple IN A CAN :eek: from the Vermont Country store is just plain SCARY! Real Scrapple comes in a loaf - and when I go back to Philly in February, I'm gonna bring back a ton of it, so I'll bring some for you to try. You're going to have to come to my place for it, though, because if it isn't cooked right, it's disgusting. Gotta teach you how to cook it first!

Glenn - the Black Cherry Wishniak from Canada Dry is not bad, but it's still no comparison to the ORIGINAL - from Frank's. Best in a glass bottle, ice cold - Oh, yeahhhhhhhhhhh! Haven't tried the Stewarts, but I'm sure it still won't be like the original.

Grant, Waldo and I went with one of my brothers to Geno's on Christmas night - because Jim's was closed. I really wanted him to experience a true "Philly" cheesesteak. He was very unimpressed and insists ours is better. It's all in the shredding! But of course part of the "experience" is to be outside on the street, watching the people and the cars and just experiencing the whole "Neighborhood" - you and Glenn know what I'm talking about there. That part is the only thing I'll never be able to replicate up here!!!!!!!!

Next visit home in February, we're going to the Mummers museum!!!!!!!!! Federal Street Pretzels is just a short trip from there, and I'll be gorging myself, and bringing some home to freeze!

Frdxplorer 01-30-2005 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepper
Can't say I'm familiar with this, but I sure am curious! Is it similar to my beloved Scrapple?

Pepper, sorry for the slow response. I appologize but apparently panhaus is simply another word for scrapple. I was under the impression that it was a lower grade of scrapple (what's left over once that scrapple has been made) but my father explained that it is just the PA Dutch's word for scrapple. Anyway, my appologies. I'de be happy to bring you some scrapple next time I come. I apparently do not know quite as much about the PA Dutch tradition as I thought I did. BUT... I must ask, are you familiar with Hogmaw. If you are not, you will most likely be disgusted. But it is a PA Dutch dish that is sausage and different meat products mixed with cut up potatoes and baked inside the casing of a pig stomach. Now I know, it sounds absolutely appalling but it is actually quite good. Many of my friends in college could not believe that people where I live actually eat it but it's actually pretty common. Sorry if I grossed anyone out. Hope everyone had a good weekend

upthesaukee 01-30-2005 07:49 PM

And who does he like????
 
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Here's a bobhouse in the middle of Alton Bay...'Nuf said?????

KTO 01-30-2005 11:11 PM

So at last we are finally on topic!

upthesaukee 01-30-2005 11:32 PM

How far off topic can we get in a thread that we aren't supposed to do, but we are allowed to do 'cause of the situation, and the scrapple and stuff will probably end up as part of a bet on the game settlement, so we really didn't get that far off topic, that is if you (we) really use our scrapples and think about it!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_6_13.gif :D :D :D

KTO 01-30-2005 11:38 PM

Whoa, try saying that 5 times fast!

glennsteely 01-31-2005 07:33 AM

Nice bob house......BUT.....
 
That is kind of cheezy, dont you think? I will have to get a few pictures of signs around here to show you how TRUE fans of the EAGLES do it. Grant or Cal.....I was in Philly Sat. night and Sun. night and didnt see the psfs building showing their support.....do you know what I am talking about? There are quite a few cool shows being put on around our way.......did either of you see the new exit on rt. 42 in Deptford? The fresh embankment for the new exit was a huge (100 feet or so long) "GO EAGLES" banner......(now snow covered).

Officially, The countdown is on.....6 1/2 days till the sweet smell of FROZEN TEARS overpowers the smell of pine trees and woodburning stoves, all over New England........GO EAGLES!!!!!!

Call me the cheesesteak bookie, still waiting on a bet.......Glenn ;)

Grant 01-31-2005 09:04 AM

No prediction until Friday...
 
Can't make up my mind on this game.

Sure, the heart says the Birds. The brain, however...

Anyway...things to contemplate: Eagles vs. 3-4 defense = scary. But if they don't cough up the ball, they can certainly win it. Lots of stupid drive-killing penalties this season. Can't have any of that in the big game. Not worried about the Eagles' D vs. Pats O...But the 3-4 has me concerned. Eagles are 9-0 after two weeks' rest. Pats are in their third bowl in four years. Too many intangibles.

How's the ice?

Nero Gatto 01-31-2005 10:34 AM

Bummed out Adelphia customer
 
I checked out TVGuide.com last week and saw that FOX had the game offered in HD on channel 725 on Adelphia in the Moultonboro area. I just went out and splurged on a new LCD TV for a party I'm having. Called up and got HD installed from Adelphia. I guess I should have checked the channel lineup on Adelphia's web site first because it appears now that they don't offer FOXHD up here after all. They carry ABCHD, NBCHD, and CBSHD, but no FOXHD.

glennsteely 01-31-2005 01:13 PM

Nero......
 
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Who are you ROOTING for man? That is the question......EAGLES WIN 35 - 17!!!!!

Chris Exley 01-31-2005 02:52 PM

T.O. Running at full Speed
 
Good news for the Birds.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6890246/

The Pattsies were in trouble before. Now you can 'forgettaboutit'. Eagles in a romp. 35 - 10

E - A - G - L - E - S

MAXUM 01-31-2005 03:04 PM

I'd rather be ice fishing or snowmobiling instead of having to explain to my 6 year old what a "wardrobe malfuntion" is.

Grant 01-31-2005 04:41 PM

Jinx!
 
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Originally Posted by Chris Exley
Good news for the Birds.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6890246/

The Pattsies were in trouble before. Now you can 'forgettaboutit'. Eagles in a romp. 35 - 10

E - A - G - L - E - S


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh! ;)

Cal 01-31-2005 06:34 PM

I'm from the Philadelphia area and I hate to admit I do believe that Donavan Mc "No ring" is a legend in his own mind. Pats over the Eagles sorry to say :(

NonVoting Taxpayer 01-31-2005 08:41 PM

Look at the Schedule
 
For all you Eagles fans, look at their schedule. Who have they beat this year? They played in the weekest division in years. So they beat the Giants (twice), Vikings (twice), Ravens, Lions, Bears, Panthers, Browns, Dallas, and the Redskins (also twice). Most of those teams didn't even finish the year at 500, in fact, most won 6 or less games this year. They lost to St Louis, Cincinnatti and Pittsburg, all teams at 500 or above. Nothing aginst the Eagles but if they were in the AFC, they also might be 500. Not as if they played Indy, Buffalo, NY Jets, Broncos, Jaguars or the Chargers. Hope it's at least a close game.

glennsteely 02-01-2005 07:09 AM

NOW THERE ARE 9......AND ONLY 5 1/2 DAYS LEFT TILL "ICE OUT" FOR THE PATS.....
 
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HEY, NON VOTING TAXPAYER......FOUL!!!! The losses to the Rams and Bengals were in "who cares" games. Pittsburg just whooped us, good day for them, bad one for us......If you want to comment on football, just make sure you get it right.......In the game with the Rams, they score first and we march right back and score on a 89 yard, 3 play drive.....with the starters in. That is the last time you see them until the divisional play-off game vs. the Vikings. The whole time, I am calling the fat man (Andy "cheesesteak" Reid) every name in the book for starting them. Why take a chance with the starters, when the game means nothing and we have a serious chance for a superbowl at stake......I was very happy with his decision to take everyone out and give up those 2 games. Yes, I will admit the NFC was weak this year, but the EAGLES stood out by so much in the league.......they werent just the #1 seed, they were absolutely dominating, in all aspects of the word......the offense was strong and pretty consistant all year and the defense improved in all of the last 10 games (stats) Last year, we had what the experts called the 2nd hardest schedule in football....they wound up 12 and 4 in the regular season.....what could get worse in this football team? We stood only to get better this year, with the long term contracts, draft picks and, of course the addition of T.O. who without a doubt, is one of the best recievers to ever play the game......how is it that this year we are so under rated? It is time for everyone to respect Philly as a team that has come so far as to be the team that has the best chance of beating your beloved Pats.....And beat them, they will.......T.O. T.O. T.O. T.O. T.O.!!!!!!!

NonVoting Taxpayer 02-01-2005 08:42 AM

That's why the play the game
 
You may be right. That's why they play the game. We from New England know how the lack of respect feels. Even after two super bowl wins, people are finally starting to think they are for real.

SIKSUKR 02-01-2005 09:20 AM

How in the world is Glenstelly ever going to eat all the crow he is dishing out.I'll bet even his mouth isn't big enough to swallow the amount of trash talking he has done.He represents everything the Patriots don't have on their team and never will.That's why they are winners.Unfortuanatly for the Eagles they have boneheads on their team that run their mouths and hurt themselves by adding more fuel to an already potent bonfire called the New England Patriots.Glenstelly's supposed "Best receiver of all time" T.O.,Is very good but would NEVER EVER be on the SUPERBOWL CHAMPION Patriots.Don't you people get it yet?This is a TEAM game.It's not all about "ME" as certain athletes would have you think.I can't wait till todays media day to see what else guys like Freddie Mitchel spew out of their mouths.Please dump more fuel on the fire all you people who have not gotten it yet.It will make a victory all the sweeter. SS

JDeere 02-01-2005 09:31 AM

Pats Dynasty
 
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And, as we know, when it's a single game, anything can (and often does) happen.



Anyone who has watched the Pats over the last few years understands that they will win this Super bowl. There is really no argument to support the Eagles who played a soft NFC. Maybe the Eagles fans missed the Pats versus the Colts and Steeler games. The Pats dominated the Steelers on their own field.



They only question I have is where will the Pats play the Super bowl in 2006?

What a great time in Boston sports history! Who needs the Celtics and the Bruins.



Chris Exley 02-01-2005 10:05 AM

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Unfortuanatly for the Eagles they have boneheads on their team that run their mouths and hurt themselves by adding more fuel to an already potent bonfire called the New England Patriots.

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I can't wait till todays media day to see what else guys like Freddie Mitchel spew out of their mouths.Please dump more fuel on the fire all you people who have not gotten it yet.It will make a victory all the sweeter.

Freddie is Freddie, take whatever he says with a grain of salt. Like Donovan McNabb said, if someone needs the other team to make stupid comments to get more motivation for the game, then they shouldn't be playing in the game. The game is motivation enough.

Nero Gatto 02-01-2005 12:10 PM

Sorry Glenn, The Eagles haven't got a prayer.
 
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Who are you ROOTING for man? That is the question......EAGLES WIN 35 - 17!!!!!

I have been a Pat's since the early 80s. Now that they are in the midst of a dynasty is no time to quit on them.

Tired of Waiting 02-01-2005 01:45 PM

Yes---But
 
I'm a Pats fan and think they will win this thing. However:

All the talk about them beating the Stealers, Colts etc etc..... Does the team with the name Dolphins mean anything? I am a believer that "any" professional team can beat any other Professional team at any given time. I hope that's not what happenes here that the lesser Eagles beat the better Pats. But it could happen!!

With that said:

GO PATS, Pats 34 Eagles 16 That way I'll win the pool as well. :D


ToW

Grant 02-01-2005 02:54 PM

Flashback...
 
'02 Bowl: Underdog Pats win on Vinatieri's last-second FG, 20-17
'04 Bowl: Heavily-favored Pats win on Vinatieri's FG with 4 seconds left, 32-29

Seems they should've bestowed one of those MVP awards on Adam!

:D

glennsteely 02-01-2005 04:10 PM

All Very Valid Points.....
 
but, I am tired of hearing about the colts and the steelers.....the colts have never been able to beat the pats in new england....and the steelers have never won a championship at home.......the EAGLES have never been able to win a championship....now they have.....being red sox fans, as you all are and talking about curses.....the curse is now off the EAGLES and it is time to put the pats and their fans to rest.......in a big soft bed, with fluffy blankees and your binkies cause come sunday night you all will be crying like babies.......

Nero Gatto 02-01-2005 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by glennsteely
.....the curse is now off the EAGLES and it is time to put the pats and their fans to rest..............

I'm afraid you don't get away that easy. Your curse has only lasted for three years. We put up with 86. The Eagles are just now entering the second phase of "The Curse" where they follow the Bills to three more losing efforts at the big game if that are that lucky.


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