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lawn psycho 04-06-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Legionnaire70 (Post 201671)
Alton seems to spend alot of time running radar all throughout the town..

i work second shift and go through every week night around 11:30

these are their 'hot spots" to sit;

Alton- New Druham line on side of the road

Wayside/hardware store parking lot

In front of the bathroom (by shibleys)

at the exit to the campground across from mounts dock

sandy point

scenic view

MM parking lot

side of Rt11 just past MM

West Alton fire station

and most recent Alton/gilford line

all with lights OFF!

OH YAH, and does the town really need 8 SUV'S????? That average 12 MPG?

Precisely why I have a radar detector and laser jammer installed on my two daily drivers. Especially for area where speed limit changes frequently it's very easy to get nabbed so they even the playing field.

RailroadJoe 04-06-2013 06:07 PM

BR Be careful of those tail gating drivers. Road rage is on the rise and they really do get upset. That is why I try and pull over and let them fly along.

Kamper 04-06-2013 09:41 PM

If you drive an automatic with over-drive, find the little button on the shift that de-activates it. The engine drag will help you reduce your speed on those long down hill runs.

Belmont Resident 04-07-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamper (Post 201694)
If you drive an automatic with over-drive, find the little button on the shift that de-activates it. The engine drag will help you reduce your speed on those long down hill runs.

I use that all the time on my super Duty, that thing picks up speed like a freight train going down hill. It is called the tow & haul button on my truck.
But you have to care about your speed to use it, I believe many of those speeding are not worried about how fast or if they will get caught until they get caught.

fatlazyless 04-07-2013 08:18 AM

.....say-hey.....here's what I do and it is always well received by the cop.... "....but officer, you know that was totally not my fault because I put it on cruise-control so's I was not really driving this car! .....you need to send this ticket to cruise-control, officer!"

IslandRadio 04-07-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe (Post 201684)
BR Be careful of those tail gating drivers. Road rage is on the rise and they really do get upset. That is why I try and pull over and let them fly along.

Absolutely - pull over and let them have at it! In fact, if they really want to fly along it's of further advantage because they will clean out any speed traps that might lie ahead :cool:

Rusty 04-07-2013 09:59 AM

Is pay as you speed a viable solution?

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Or maybe "Intelligent speed adaptation":

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...eed_adaptation
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wifi 04-07-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NHBUOY (Post 201656)
....... Seems to me, they are ENFORCING speed limits and doing their jobs. I see no conflict or downside here.

Unfortunately, just like in the business world, the better you seem to do your job (in this case writing more tickets), the quicker you rise up in the organization.

Something the courts fail to take into account when deciding the real truth between the accusor and the accusee


One of many examples:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fired-utah-...ry?id=18127921

Belmont Resident 04-08-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lawn psycho (Post 201682)
Just so you know, that kind of "retaliation" is considered aggressive driving. If you are spending so much time looking in the rear view mirror as an affront to other drivers, you also can't be paying full attention to what is in front of you and making you a less safe driver.

If you are so mad, just pull over and let them go. But intentionally going below the speed limit is likely to get the opposite effect of what you want is serves to create conflict on the road.

Basically you just admitted to having road rage tendencies.

LS you are correct, but if someone rides my bumper and by slowing down I can tick them off a little bit then so be it. If it makes me a bad person then so be it.
As for conflict, behold the power of the cell phone. More then once a simple call to the local police has gotten ignorant drivers pulled over.
The police may not be able to charge them but they can detain you.

Railroad- whenever I'm on the highway and it is safe to do so I will always let someone go by that wants to. Around town if I pulled over for everyone who was on my ass I'd never get where I'm going. It seems that everyone is in a big rush to get where they are going now a day. But I'm not going to speed up and I'm not going to pull over.
Yes the other guy may have a gun or something, but the other guy also doesn't know what I have or what I'm willing to do to protect myself.

ApS 04-08-2013 06:50 AM

"They" ARE Everywhere...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 201602)
Did anyone ever hear what caused that accident?

The Alton Police Chief stated,
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"Speed wasn't a factor".
However, the massive damage to both vehicles is consistent with a speed that was inappropriate for that 55-MPH section of open highway. 55-MPH isn't "right" for every one of Nature's many conditions! Consider, on Rt. 28N, Wolfeboro has a "Moose Crossing" sign directly after a sign marking an increase to 55-MPH. :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by RailroadJoe (Post 201684)
"...Be careful of those tail gating drivers..."

Accelerating from a traffic light into a 45-MPH zone, a big white pickup truck tailgated me.

A ˝-mile down the road, I eased off for slowing traffic ahead. The truck passed in a no-passing lane and hit his brakes in front of me. :eek2:

On the truck's bumper was this sticker:

:rolleye1:

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zb9a2f.jpg

One would think they'd practice what they preach.

:rolleye1:

secondcurve 04-08-2013 07:00 AM

55 mph
 
APS:

One must take the police officer at his word that speed wasn't a factor. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that distraction/inattention was the culprit. I believe it was stated that there were no signs of braking which would back-up the distraction/inattention theory. So, if two vehicles collided at 55 MPH with no braking there would be massive damage. However, massive damage doesn't necessarily mean speed was a factor.

Merrymeeting 04-08-2013 07:22 AM

Keep in mind that the cars hit head-on. At 55 each, that's a 110 mph crash.

tis 04-08-2013 07:43 AM

I had heard that they were testing for medical issues but never heard the results. That could also cause a crash.

Pineedles 04-08-2013 09:23 AM

I personally watched an SUV going over 65 mph rear-end a tractor trailer that was stopped. When I got to the SUV, the driver, still alive thanks to an airbag deployment, was still holding her cell-phone. I had seen the TT stopped nearly 100 yards before her. I was about 50 yards directly behind her and started braking immediately, praying I would see the SUV start to slow but saw no brake lights from the SUV. Convinced me to never to text and drive.

Rusty 04-08-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pineedles (Post 201747)
I personally watched an SUV going over 65 mph rear-end a tractor trailer that was stopped. When I got to the SUV, the driver, still alive thanks to an airbag deployment, was still holding her cell-phone. I had seen the TT stopped nearly 100 yards before her. I was about 50 yards directly behind her and started braking immediately, praying I would see the SUV start to slow but saw no brake lights from the SUV. Convinced me to never to text and drive.

Good point about the number one reason for accidents...DISTRACTION

http://www.seriousaccidents.com/arti...er-300x219.jpg

Distracted Driving is the number one cause of accidents.

The number one cause of car accidents is not a criminal that drove drunk, sped or ran a red light. Distracted drivers are the top cause of car accidents in the U.S. today. A distracted driver is a motorist that diverts his or her attention from the road, usually to talk on a cell phone, send a text message or eat food.

http://seriousaccidents.com/legal-ad...car-accidents/

Kamper 04-09-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Belmont Resident (Post 201738)
... if someone rides my bumper and by slowing down I can tick them off a little bit ...

Personal satisfaction aside. If you need to hit your brakes all of a sudden, the impact from the tail-gater will be less if you've slowed them down. I often slow down when tail-gated for that reason. It also gives them more time to read my "Sturm Ruger" bumper sticker.

fatlazyless 04-09-2013 08:07 AM

On the truck's bumper was this sticker:

:rolleye1:

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zb9a2f.jpg

"One would think they'd practice what they preach." .....ApS

....oh well.....accidents will happen and it pays to be alert.....why just late yesterday afternoon over in the Meredith-Hannaford's parking lot......I was walking towards the store entrance.......and I was so engaged in looking at that huge, red Manitowac pile driver parked in the fenced-off area.....that I simply did not see some guy in an older pickup truck backing out of his parking space....until the left rear corner of the bumper clipped me in the knee-thigh area.......and that got my attention fast......no harm done to me....but his bumper was sporting two motorcycle bumper stickers so's I guess I can now say that I got hit by the bumper sticker or something! Could not have been going more than three miles per hour, lucky for me!

mcdude 04-09-2013 09:14 AM

heard this a.m. on radio
 
10% of traffic deaths (not accidents....but deaths) are caused by distracted driving according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The #1 cause of distraction is DAYDREAMING according to the NHTSA.

In "that other thread" about the Alton Cell Tower, forum folks cite the #1 reason for wanting cell phone coverage is to be able to call for help in case of an accident. It would be ironic if the reason for the accident were distracted driving due to a cell phone, texting, etc.

Pineedles 04-09-2013 09:17 AM

Distracted driving
 
Yes Rusty, distracted driving is a major cause. Funny that you would post a picture of a guy eating while driving. A town near me, Avon, CT actually has a law on the books citing eating while driving to be an infraction. Can you imagine how many lives could be saved if we just shut down every drive-thru food place in the country? :laugh:

patman 04-09-2013 11:11 AM

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...63236924_n.jpg

lawn psycho 04-09-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamper (Post 201803)
Personal satisfaction aside. If you need to hit your brakes all of a sudden, the impact from the tail-gater will be less if you've slowed them down. I often slow down when tail-gated for that reason. It also gives them more time to read my "Sturm Ruger" bumper sticker.

So while driving and someone creeps up on you and your thoughts are to project to someone that you may have a gun? That's clouded thinking IMO and an indictment of our society.

Also, people like me have dash cams running automatically in my vehicles. Any intimation that you have a weapon and you'll be sure to get pulled from your car by the police.

Rusty 04-11-2013 09:05 AM

According to the Alton Police Report that is in this weeks "The Baysider" the Police made 93 motor vehicle stops for the week of March 31-April 6.

Last week it was 75 and I thought that was a little high.

I would suggest that if you travel on any of the roads in NH that you obey all the motor vehicle laws. There seems to be an increase in stops for some reason.

I'm glad that they are out and enforcing the MV laws but it makes you wonder why some towns are making more stops.

It can't be a monetary thing...can it????

tis 04-11-2013 09:27 AM

I heard they are stopping at lot of people on North Main Street in Wolfeboro, too. Maybe there IS something going on, Rusty??!

NH_boater 04-12-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrymeeting (Post 201742)
Keep in mind that the cars hit head-on. At 55 each, that's a 110 mph crash.

While this seems intuitive, Mythbusters found the impact for a given vehicle is actually equal to a 55PMH crash into a stationary object, not doubled to 110MPH. I would have lost money on that bet.

riverat 04-12-2013 08:01 AM

I have to travel 28N almost everyday and I have(was given) a 97 ford ranger with 2.2 liter 4 cylinder engine that cannot get over those hills (at 50mph) unless I get to a speed of 70mph before starting up the hill.
If I maintained the speed of 55 before beginning the climb I would be going around 40mph and the tranny would have downshifted into 3rd gear.
I have been driving since 1967 and never been ticketed for speeding(knocking on wood) but this combination of vehicle versus 28N to wolfeboro and back may get me one some day.
cannot afford another vehicle and it is fine besides the lack of power.
So if you are on 28N and a little green truck with a long line of cars behind it is slowing you down, I'm sorry.

I think this is what I will tell the officer when he pulls me over eventually. but I'm sure they've heard them all.

ITD 04-12-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NH_boater (Post 202050)
While this seems intuitive, Mythbusters found the impact for a given vehicle is actually equal to a 55PMH crash into a stationary object, not doubled to 110MPH. I would have lost money on that bet.

Actually, that's two vehicles of equal mass and construction. A crash between a car and a tractor-trailer would yield a much different result with the situation for the car being much worse due to the significantly higher kinetic energy that the truck would have at said speed and sturdier construction. I would like to see them do that test. Bottom line, head-ons should be avoided in most situations.

SIKSUKR 04-12-2013 09:22 AM

Head-on collision math
 
http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/collisionmath.html

SIKSUKR 04-12-2013 09:30 AM

Here's another one
 
http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/2...y-explanation/

gtagrip 04-12-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lawn psycho (Post 201882)
Also, people like me have dash cams running automatically in my vehicles.

Really???? :rolleye1:

Winnisquamguy 04-12-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lawn psycho http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...s/viewpost.gif
Also, people like me have dash cams running automatically in my vehicles.
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtagrip (Post 202085)
Really???? :rolleye1:

I did a double take on that one too!

HellRaZoR004 04-12-2013 04:05 PM

It's actually becoming very common. It can save your @$$ when it comes to proving your case.

lawn psycho, I'm curious about your setup. What do you have and how do you like it?

secondcurve 04-12-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITD (Post 202060)
Actually, that's two vehicles of equal mass and construction. A crash between a car and a tractor-trailer would yield a much different result with the situation for the car being much worse due to the significantly higher kinetic energy that the truck would have at said speed and sturdier construction. I would like to see them do that test. Bottom line, head-ons should be avoided in most situations.

The only thing I don't agree with you on is that "head-ons should be avoided in most situations." From where I sit they should be avoided in all situations!!

lawn psycho 04-12-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtagrip (Post 202085)
Really???? :rolleye1:

Yep. You can now get them very cheap too. Just uses an SD card and rolls over the old files. They plug into a 12V outlet (i hardwired mine) and about size of a GPS. Mine kicks on as soon as car moves.

Roll your eyes but in this day and age where people do things on the road the camera "don't lie".

ITD 04-12-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondcurve (Post 202113)
The only thing I don't agree with you on is that "head-ons should be avoided in most situations." From where I sit they should be avoided in all situations!!

I was thinking about a narrow pass with a 1,000 foot drop as the only other option ,then you should take your chances with the head-on, or say, it's a head-on or running over a mother and baby, other than something like that I agree.

lawn psycho 04-12-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004 (Post 202100)
It's actually becoming very common. It can save your @$$ when it comes to proving your case.

lawn psycho, I'm curious about your setup. What do you have and how do you like it?

They don't even make the camera I have but it's almost identical to this one: http://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Record...words=dash+cam

You can see, they are very inexpensive to buy and serve what you need. Night vision is so-so but at least if someone cut you off, etc it would capture that. It's not a camera limitation but the power of the IR LEDs. The reason police dash cameras show much more detail is they are using a spot light on the subject area plus their cameras cost way more money.

I currently live in Asia (bounce around countries) and

My total set-up:
Dash Cam (similar to above, hardwired)
Car: Escort 9500 ci
It's custom install, completely hidden (system has laser jammers included)

Truck:
Dash Cam (similar to above, hardwired)
Radar Detector: Hardwired visor mounted Escort Redline
Laser Jammer: Laser Interceptor It jams laser all the way to the laser gun. .THE best laser jammer on the market and if anyone thinks it doesn't work, think again.

And for those that don't know how to get a clean look of a hardwire installation, it's actually very simple and no more cords to deal with. When my vehicle starts, the radar detector, jammer, and dash cam all power up automatically. Once you have it, you won't want to be without them.

lawn psycho 04-12-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnisquamguy (Post 202097)
I did a double take on that one too!

They are very common. Used extensively by truckers since they get cut off so much.

I see them all the time. Once you know what the look like you'll see what I mean.

They're cheap to buy now. Doubt all you want......

RLW 04-12-2013 08:20 PM

Alton Police
 
Has the situation (head on with cars & trucks) as pointed out in the last few threads happened in Alton? I may have missed it in the newspaper or it happened some time ago. Just a interested reader.:)

riverat 04-12-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLW (Post 202125)
Has the situation (head on with cars & trucks) as pointed out in the last few threads happened in Alton? I may have missed it in the newspaper or it happened some time ago. Just a interested reader.:)

http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/2-d...z/-/index.html

ApS 04-13-2013 05:58 AM

...in a residential area...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NHBUOY (Post 201656)
Because the majority (80%) of the drivers are speeding/driving OVER the posted limit, that makes it OK..?.. Seems to me, they are ENFORCING speed limits and doing their jobs. I see no conflict or downside here.

Yesterday morning, I came upon a road-killed deer, and this was in a 25-MPH zone. :confused:

Knowing that a deer will cause damage to one's car—or worse—how could anyone not slow down? :rolleye1:

...and this was on a two-lane bridge...!

:eek2:

secondcurve 04-13-2013 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 202137)
Yesterday morning, I came upon a road-killed deer, and this was in a 25-MPH zone. :confused:

Knowing that a deer will cause damage to one's car—or worse—how could anyone not slow down? :rolleye1:

...and this was on a two-lane bridge...!

:eek2:

APS:

It is very easy to hit a deer. I have done it myself. They are dark and move like lightning often directly into the path of a car without hesitation. Even the insurance companies realize that it is often not the driver's fault and they acknowledge this by not counting a deer/car collision as a moving violation/accident on the driver's policy. At least that was my experience here in Massachusetts.


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