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Seaplane Pilot 07-23-2008 09:13 AM

Kayak buyback program
 
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Similar to the handgun buyback programs often found in large cities, I think we should start a "Kayak Buyback Program" in order to get these rogue, unsafe kayakers off our precious waters. Save the loons, save the children, protect the kayakers from themselves...Let the cowboys ride the free range! (and get rid of these cry-babys) :emb:

$1.00 for every kayak turned in. I've already started my collection and will drill holes in them and sell them for garden planters.

tis 07-23-2008 12:02 PM

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Seaplane Pilot. I know I shouldn't but that is just too funny!
I should add, I like GFBL boats but I also like kayaks.

Sman 07-23-2008 01:45 PM

close up
 
trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?

parrothead 07-23-2008 02:09 PM

Evenstar
 
Why raise to the bait?

B R 07-23-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sman (Post 77044)
trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?

all of this is easily explained:

a leg on top of the kayak:

i've seen this in the x games before. some kayakers get their kicks out of doing these insane tricks all in the name of fun. it's called cowboy kayaking. they're trying to get this sick sport into the olympics, but no insurance company will underwrite the event.

the person is paddling real close to a nest/a nest in the middle of the water/line running at an angle:

appears to be a deviation from the above sport. i've heard they race as close as they can to the tormented loon in an attempt to get the loons to scream (squack, call out...). once they succeed, they lasso the loon and nest with fishing line (that's why it's barely visible) and drag them out to the middle of the lake and then watch and laugh as the loon struggles back to shore. points are awarded by the length of the loon scream and the number of loon chicks that fall into the water.

all of this on the name of fun. i'm telling ya, it's just sick sick sick.....there ought to be a law.......

brk-lnt 07-23-2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by B R (Post 77048)
all of this is easily explained:

Thank you for clearing that up, your description is much different than what I had previously heard about this...

My understanding was that most kayakers prefer to eat a steady diet of baby seal. See, they feel that the baby seal's spirit will become embedded within their own spirit, making them more at one with the water.

However, due to the popularity of kayaking, many of these vile "sportsmen" are now infesting other waters and coming further inland. They bring their sea kayaks and flamboyantly colored paddles to lakes where they are clearly out of place. After coming to these inland waters they soon realize that there is no baby seal population, and so then they have to refer to hunting some other water creature to enhance their kayaking spirit. In this case, many loons have become the unfortunate target of these people, and the picture above clearly shows this "sport" as they call it happening right in front of the photographers eyes.

In case you are wondering, I know this from a conversation I overhead when I accidentally walked into a "Kayakers bar". The Subaru wagons out front, yogurt menu, and granola scattered on the floor should have given the joint away, but I was weary and simply wanted a bite to eat. Once I realized where I was, I ate my Muselix and quietly left without calling attention to myself, but that was not before I heard many of the secrets of this cult discussed out in the open, in what they thought was a safe environment...

SAMIAM 07-23-2008 03:29 PM

Brk-Int.............STOP IT......I can't see the keyboard because I'm laughing so hard:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Skip 07-23-2008 03:34 PM

Felon attempts to flee in kayak!
 
Loons aren't the only critters in danger; be cautious around strangers in kayaks, that innocent paddler could be a convicted sex offender on the run!

From just a few weeks ago!!! :eek:

Mee-n-Mac 07-23-2008 03:38 PM

That's a rare loon
 
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Originally Posted by Sman (Post 77044)
trade the yak in for some binoculars...

the second post mentions something is wrong with this pic, I agree, not sure what it is but it just doesn't look right, a leg on top of the kayak, the person is paddling real close to a nest, a nest in the middle of the water, some sort of a line in the pic running at an angle?


Certainly deserves a third look. With the uber special software I have available and previously used to discover the true nature of the "yellow thingee" off the Anchor Marine docks, I think I may have uncovered the truth. You see what we have here is a rare display of karma. Yes the Kowboi Kayaker went out to lasso the poor loon but in a rare instance of karma, he ran across the rarest of loon species.

You see loons are among the older of bird species in general, closer to their dinosaur predecessors than most birds. Thus some species of loon have retained some very unusual dino and reptilian capabilities. We all have heard how deadly the saliva of the Komodo Dragon is and know that various species of snake and reptiles have a poisonous bite. Indeed Jurassic Park (the movie) was entirely correct in showing that some dinos could spit poison. So what we have here is the very rare Spitting Loon 'o' Death. It's not only poisonous but downright acidic in the venom it can project up to 31.4 ft. The mystery of the missing leg is solved .... dissolved away by the vile bile coughed up by this very rare loon ! :eek:

codeman671 07-23-2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B R (Post 77048)
all of this is easily explained:

a leg on top of the kayak:

i've seen this in the x games before. some kayakers get their kicks out of doing these insane tricks all in the name of fun. it's called cowboy kayaking. they're trying to get this sick sport into the olympics, but no insurance company will underwrite the event.

the person is paddling real close to a nest/a nest in the middle of the water/line running at an angle:

appears to be a deviation from the above sport. i've heard they race as close as they can to the tormented loon in an attempt to get the loons to scream (squack, call out...). once they succeed, they lasso the loon and nest with fishing line (that's why it's barely visible) and drag them out to the middle of the lake and then watch and laugh as the loon struggles back to shore. points are awarded by the length of the loon scream and the number of loon chicks that fall into the water.

all of this on the name of fun. i'm telling ya, it's just sick sick sick.....there ought to be a law.......

Don't forget the lead sinkers that are fed to them in order to prolong their struggle to shore... Only done by the most skilled of culprits...

Dave R 07-23-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 77050)
In case you are wondering, I know this from a conversation I overhead when I accidentally walked into a "Kayakers bar". The Subaru wagons out front, yogurt menu, and granola scattered on the floor should have given the joint away, but I was weary and simply wanted a bite to eat. Once I realized where I was, I ate my Muselix and quietly left without calling attention to myself, but that was not before I heard many of the secrets of this cult discussed out in the open, in what they thought was a safe environment...


I know that bar, it's called "Club Baby Seal", right?

brk-lnt 07-23-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave R (Post 77064)
I know that bar, it's called "Club Baby Seal", right?

Oh damn, that was perfect!

Evenstar 07-23-2008 06:54 PM

And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

brk-lnt 07-23-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 77074)
When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Nah, we'll just rehash all the old paddler-bashing threads. Every 2nd post will start with "Remember the time when...".


Evenstar, seriously, lighten up. I really have nothing against you or paddlers in general, but you just feed the flames here. Tell ya what, meet me over at "Club Baby Seal" sometime and I'll buy you a smoothie and we'll get to know each other a little better. You know what they say, ANY girl looks like a keeper at 1AM after 6 smoothies and a shot of flaxseed oil.

Mashugana 07-23-2008 07:19 PM

Yes lets go to Club Baby Seal.
 
I'm with brk-lnt 100%. We should meet at the club and get to know one another.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 76868)
The amount of kayak bashing on this forum continues to amaze me.

It's not bashing, it's swamping. I heard it happens a lot on Squam or was it Winnisquam.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar
This is supposed to be a place for all boaters - yet the powerboat owners seem to think that there’s nothing wrong with constantly putting down paddlers here. No wonder that I’m only one of the few paddlers who is brave enough to post here.

This is supposed to be a place for ANYONE, particularly anyone with an interest in the Lakes Region of NH. Not just power boaters. I could have a sailboat and know how to Jibe :emb:.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar
And I get jumped on every time that I stand up for paddlers.

You claim it happens so often that I think you secretely might like to get jumped on. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Evenstar
And please don’t try to tell me that this is just a joke – because I’m not laughing at your insults. This is nothing more than prejudice - and it is wrong.

As you wish dear Evenstar. I won't try to tell you that this is a joke or satirical or even a fun thread. It started as an informational post showing an interaction shared between a KAYAK a kayaker and a loon. That's no joke.

I did miss where people insulted you. You are the only brave kayaker that speaks up the way you do. You are right. That is just wrong.

Prejudiced? you bet I am. I would rather read this thread than 98% of the speed limit threads.

BTW. Was that a sea kayak or a plain old regular kind of kayak bothering that loon?

kayakers are boaters too

Turtle Boy 07-23-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 77074)
And the kayak bashing and insults continues. And you guys wonder why there are so few non-powerboat owners on this forum. Apparently that's they way you want it, because you seem to be working really hard to keep it that way.

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you. Whenever anyone member here doesn't fall into your group mentality - you guys just gang up on them until they dissappear. You guys are pathetic. When there are no more paddlers left here to bash, then what will you do for fun? I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

brk-lnt 07-23-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtle Boy (Post 77093)
Hey Evenstar...I've often wondered what a forum in N. Korea is like ....you're free to post anything so long as it's "we are proud to honor the great leader comrade Kim Jong-il with our loyalty". This is what we're up against on a forum like this; hang in there. As Islander alluded to earlier, they're a little sore over their recent loss. Quite understandable.

Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

hazelnut 07-23-2008 11:25 PM

Highly entertaining folks.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh::laugh:

I guess just because I kayaked today for a few hours I should be angry at this thread.:mad::fire::mad:

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.

P.S. I usually paddle away from loon nests. :laugh::laugh:

SIKSUKR 07-24-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 77074)

Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.You guys are pathetic.

Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above?You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 77074)
I'm sure if you all put your minds together, you'll be able to come up with another minority group to insult.

I think the Anti-Defamation League should be notified immediately!There should be another law for this.

Evenstar 07-24-2008 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hazelnut (Post 77105)
Most importantly the posts that claim bashing against kayakers. HILARIOUS. As if Kayakers have become a new minority group.

Kayakers ARE very much a minority group – in this forum.

Quote:

No worries my skin is thicker than tissue paper.
And you’re not the one that many of the insulting comments here are being directed at.

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR (Post 77126)
Now THAT'S funny.Have you read your own posts like the one above? You are BY FAR the most intollerant member on this board.

I admit that I have little tolerance toward intolerance – but that does not make me an intolerant person. I support diversity – but that does not mean that I support bigotry or hate crimes.

“We must be vigilant against discrimination and show no tolerance for intolerance.” - opening statement by the OSCE Chairman-in-Office, Dr Dimitrij Rupel, at the OSCE Conference on Anti-Semitism and on Other Forms of Intolerance Cordoba, 8 June 2005 [/i]

"I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." Elie Wiesel

“Prejudices are what fools use for reason." Voltaire

Islander 07-24-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 77095)
Loss? Loss of what? The speed limit debate was interesting, but it will have no recognizable impact on 95% of the anti-HB847 crowd. I highly doubt that anyone is trying to take out their anger over this "loss" on any of the supporters here.

Responding to your silly posts here is like going fishing at a stocked salmon farm. It's not all that difficult, and you're practically guaranteed an easy win. In the end, it's not really rewarding, it's just a fun way to pass the time.

YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!:laugh:

It doesn't make any difference!:laugh:

Is that why it is still the number one topic on the forum? Is that why people are lining up to bash kayaks?

Is this the denial phase? Are are we already into anger?

The Five Stages
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Sman 07-24-2008 10:05 AM

both
 
man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake:)

Turtle Boy 07-24-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sman (Post 77146)
man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side...

actually no I don't, are people really THAT offended by the humor or attempt there of humor in this thread. And how bad can life really be if we have time during our day to read and post about boating?

hope it stops raining so we can all get back in our toys and on the lake:)

That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing. Evenstar can contribute a kayak, VtSteve a GFBL (whoops, performance) boat, and we tow the kayak around at 65MPH(this year only, next year 45 MPH). My grandson loves tubing...bet he'll really love GFBL kayaking (sorry again, performance kayaking). Common ground at last. Kumbayah.

brk-lnt 07-24-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Islander (Post 77141)
YA Right!

None of you care that it passed!:laugh:

It doesn't make any difference!:laugh:


You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

Orion 07-24-2008 10:47 AM

already available: GFBL Kayaks
 
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Originally Posted by Turtle Boy (Post 77151)
That's it Sman....a new sport to bring these 2 very disparate groups together...we'll call it kayak tubing.

No need. At the Lakeshore Living Expo, one of the local marinas exhibiting had those jet-powered kayaks, shown in a prior thread, for sale. You can scratch every itch with just one boat.

Turtle Boy 07-24-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 77155)
You and Twaddle Boy are the first ones to drag the speed limits into yet another thread. Seriously, find a new drum to beat, you've played that one to death.

Actually it was VtSteve who dragged speed into this thread on 7/17. Lighten up...maybe you ought to switch to decaf. In fact I worry that a few of the GFBL posters could blow a cerebral aneurism while typing their posts. Take a quiet paddle on the lake, come back and eat some granola, and then try to meditate.....Oooohhhhhmmmm.

B R 07-24-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Islander (Post 77141)

None of you care that it passed!:laugh:

It doesn't make any difference!:laugh:


Is this you acting like an adult and being a gracious winner? Please....

The only question I have is are you going to lie on your back kicking and screaming when all these big bad GF boats don't leave your lake because of the silly speed limit? Or are you going to hold your breath until they all go away?

SAMIAM 07-24-2008 11:18 AM

I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

brk-lnt 07-24-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 77165)
I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.Anyone with any common sense could see that it was all a spoof and joined in the fun.There are many kayakers in this forum but they didn't chime in because they knew it was all in fun....He used words like "ridicule and "humiliation"........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

Some people are just forever the victim.


I KNOW MY RIGHTS! YOU WILL NOT OPPRESS ME!


I'd be willing to bet 2 things:
1) Evenstar is single
2) Now, or at some point in her life, she has owned a soapbox.

robmac 07-24-2008 11:37 AM

be carefull Samiam,he's a she that could be considered by her as more bashing

VtSteve 07-24-2008 11:56 AM

Geez Tboy. First off, I don;t own a GFBL boat. Not that fast, and it's pretty quiet.

Second, How did I drag the dreaded topic into this thread? I was having fun like everyone else, save for at least four of you. I'm beginning to think that someone's been pi$$ing in your wheaties in the morning.

"This is the kind of mindless, senseless, arrogant act I've come to expect from the pardy not at all paddling crowd. Harassing birds, probably disturbing turtles, all in the name of self-serving interests.

That poor bird looks absolutely terrified in that picture, as anyone would be had their 150' space been violated. I'll bet the poor bird had to endure many minutes of fright as the kayak headed straight for her, probably not even aware of the impending encroachment. The kayaker could have slowed down, but it's not their nature, never has been. The kayaker is probably coming back from the local quick stop, with the day's beer supply.

Loons have rights too! "

Dave R 07-24-2008 01:53 PM

If we "show no tolerance for intolerance", does that not, in fact, make us intolerant? How can we possibly tolerate intolerance of intolerance? I don't think I can. I don't think I want to, even if I could. Gosh, imagine everything being entirely unlike that!

I have to take 8 hours of diversity training every year and the one thing that's always conspicuously missing from the training is the recommendation of being tolerant of the insensitivity of others. I think that's intolerable.

Evenstar 07-24-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 77165)
I thought this thread was hilarious.......Evenstar was the only one who took it serious and was offended.........guess he's just one of those people who looks for ways to be offended.

As I pointed out to you already, I'm a she.

Yes, I'm just looking for ways to be offended. That's why I forced some of the people here to target me - before I even posted a reply in this thread. There's a line between humor and insult - many in this thread have crossed that line.

brk-lnt 07-24-2008 02:20 PM

I'm confused now. Are we supposed to be tolerant of the intolerant? Or have intoleration for tolerance expressed in excessive levels?

And of course the most important question that applies to all aspects of forum threads here, how does HB847 support affect our intolerant tolerance?


Personally, I like to think of myself as unbiased and unprejudiced (as well as debonair and handsome)... I oppress no minority group, as I hate everyone equally.

Orion 07-24-2008 03:19 PM

not again
 
Well, here goes another thread I won't have to continue reading. Sad.

Cal 07-24-2008 07:08 PM

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This is getting good:D

Mashugana 07-25-2008 05:48 AM

A side for Sman
 
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Originally Posted by Sman (Post 77146)
man this is tough, so if I have a kayak and a boat that goes faster than 45 ( neither one too fancy) reading this I don't know which side I am on...sometimes I want to go 60 mph and sometimes I want to go for a paddle in the Kayak...what do I do, I need to pick a side... :)

You should probably pick the Kayak side Sman. Be sure to paint a florescent target on your paddling suit so we can see you. You know how it is to go faster than ones ability to see.

Don't even get me started about PWCs. Those wake jumping lake bugs buzzing all over the place. They are a menace. Some areas and lakes already ban them.

I hear that Kayakers love water. Maybe they should try something like beer, wine, Prozac or something else (to be blunt) to mellow out. :)

Sman, we like you but you are now one of THEM! :laugh: No offense.

Intolerance is a terrible thing to tolerate

Seaplane Pilot 07-25-2008 08:49 AM

Cal, you are right!
 
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Originally Posted by Cal (Post 77257)
This is getting good:D

You provide the popcorn, I'll provide the keg. You can't pay for entertainment this good! Who cares about the speed limit, this is way more fun.

I'll even supply a case of Poland Springs for those kayakers that.....
"Love Water". :cheers:

brk-lnt 07-25-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot (Post 77294)
I'll even supply a case of Poland Springs for those kayakers that.....
"Love Water". :cheers:

Throw that case of Poland Springs in a kiddie pool and you'll have created an instant Kayaker Safe Haven Paddle Paradise (c) (tm) (r) (patent pending). Put it on the back of a flatbed truck and you have an instant business:
"Bring the Lakes Region to your door! Portable Paddle Paradise!"

Of course, you'll have to make sure the toddlers stay at least 150' away from the pool, lest someone get all encroached on.

alsadad 07-25-2008 09:29 AM

In-toll-erance
 
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Originally Posted by Evenstar (Post 77074)
Of course that's because you don't have any tollerance for anyone with a different point of view from you.

I think I remember coming to the Lake when the toll was 1 token (12.5 cents). Then they hiked it to 2 tokens and then again to 3 tokens. Then they stopped taking tokens so we had to pay the toll of 75 cents in real, honest-to-goodness American money. Now the toll is $1. When I pay the toll does that make me in-toll-erant? Or am I ex-toll-erant, dis-toll-erant, mis-toll-erant, un-toll-erant, bi-toll-erant (for the round trip, so to speak), or just plain annoyed?


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