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smith point boater 12-21-2016 07:47 AM

Smith Point
 
Smith Point (Marker 48 on the lake) is in West Alton . There is absolutely no solid ice in sight and the water between Rattlesnake and here is wide open and moving at a pretty good clip. Doubtful there will be any solid ice in the next few days

rsmlp 12-21-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DickR (Post 272871)
Don't you mean "South Point?" I live on LI, and I have no idea where a "Smith Point" might be. Didn't we have this same discussion here earlier this year? Anyway, Smith Point, wherever that may be, probably was just as cold, but probably didn't have a ski lift up it, as did where I went today, and that was cold, too. This seems to happen a lot to places around here.

Damn, I must have a brain freeze (pun intended) on this point. My mistake-again. Our neighbor to our left (closer to the point) has a last name of SMITH but no excuses. I'd like to say I'll never do it again but the older I get...

depasseg 12-21-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wadeja (Post 272874)
No, I mean Smith Point in Moultonborough. Get out your Bizer chart and follow the lake NW from Moultonborough Bay and right next to the 71 degrees 22 minutes marker you will see Smith Point. There is a Smith Point down in Alton too. Probably a few others on the lake.

You weren't the Smith Point in question. You are talking about the Smith Point up near Ambrose Cove. The original question was regarding Smith Point vs South Point on Long Island.

depasseg 12-21-2016 11:42 AM

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It looks like there is ice from the LI Bridge (Trexler's Lighthouse) all the way out to 5-mile and 6-mile.

You can see the trail a barge made in the ice.

ishoot308 12-21-2016 12:02 PM

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From my side of the lake (South), it appears everything from Dollar Island north is locked in. All open water from Dollar to the Southwest shore however. Pic below is taken from my home looking at the South side of Welch... If you look close you can see the ice line just in front of Dollar, that little dot at 9:00 o'clock in the photo below...

Dan

Slickcraft 12-21-2016 03:17 PM

Do you mean the other East AKA West?:D

ghfromaltonbay 12-21-2016 03:25 PM

Thanks, Slickcraft.
 
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Originally Posted by Slickcraft (Post 272903)
Do you mean the other East AKA West?:D

For a minute I was confused too reading this 300+ miles away. Thought I was looking EAST! Guess that's the case.

ishoot308 12-21-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Slickcraft (Post 272903)
Do you mean the other East AKA West?:D

Oops, actually I meant to say South...edited for correction!

wadeja 12-22-2016 09:17 AM

8 inches of ice yesterday
 
We have been locked in with ice up here north of Moultonborough Bay for 2 weeks now. I took another walk out toward Gansey Island and drilled through 8 inches of ice. 5 inches of "slush ice" on top and 3 inches of black ice underneath. Kinda surprised to not see people ice fishing out there yet.

20mile 12-22-2016 06:37 PM

Safe Ice
 
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Originally Posted by NUMechEng (Post 272853)
WadeJa - This is a handy reference that i found years ago regarding ice thickness. Compliments of the Farmers Almanac
http://www.almanac.com/content/ice-t...s-safety-chart

4 Inches will hold a 'group' of people 'in a single file line'
7 1/2 inches will hold a 2 ton car (Like average sized Sedan)
Yes, that is right, only 7 1/2 inches to hold a car

Technically, the 'pounds per square inch' on a snowmobile is less than a person on foot. (Although this assumes you don't get off the machine).
BUT, as Maxum stated, ice thickness can vary quite a bit.
And the ice thicknesses listed are based on 'Black Ice' (good strong ice without too much entrapped air, etc).

My family has owned a camp in Moultonboro bay for over 100 years.
I've spent my whole life on the water there. Both Frozen & Thawed.
I drive out my snowmobiles & also sometimes my car virtually every year (for fishing, etc).
But i don't drive my car out until there is a minimum of 1 foot 'in the middle'. (Deep water between Suissvale and the Neck).
This is because it's safe to assume that there are thinner spots that may be 8 inches.

Long story short, 7 inches can be safe for a snowmobile.
But if you are 'new' to the lake, or to this area of Moultonboro bay, I suggest giving it a bit more time.
If this cold keeps up, the ice (in that area of M-boro bay) should be in great shape by end of Dec.

*Disclaimer - Above is my 'opinion' based on my own 30+ yrs experience.
But I can't be held liable for my opinions on this topic. Good Luck :)

I have been going on the ice for over 40 years. The quality of the ice and how hard it is makes a big difference. Last year we had a hard freeze early. We secured our ice shack down on 3-4" of ice. We also had two ATVs out there with us. By no means should anyone experiment on thin ice. Doing so can put one's life in peril. see attached photos. Photo shows the 2 x 4 under the ice as a tie down for the shack. Yes I know it looks scary.

baastan 12-22-2016 07:11 PM

I am up in Patrician shores (levitt Park) area on the center harbor / meredith line and usually rip across into center harbor, cross 25 and drive behind the irving and then take those access trails to kanasatka sp? Does anyone have any information if that's safe yet? I love riding Red Hill, I told my children to put my ashes up there one day, just not anytime soon..

upthesaukee 12-22-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baastan (Post 272944)
I am up in Patrician shores (levitt Park) area on the center harbor / meredith line and usually rip across into center harbor, cross 25 and drive behind the irving and then take those access trails to kanasatka sp? Does anyone have any information if that's safe yet? I love riding Red Hill, I told my children to put my ashes up there one day, just not anytime soon..

You may want to check in on the snowmobiling section of the forum. There has been some conversation about two conditions, including riding on the lake. This may help more then the general forum. Also check in on the Moultonborough snowmobile Club website for up to date info on trail conditions. Also trailhub.org.

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Hillcountry 12-23-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 20mile (Post 272942)
Last year we had a hard freeze early.

That's funny, I thought last year was the poorest year for ice in a long time!

Merrymeeting 12-23-2016 06:48 PM

On a smaller scale, Merrymeeting is mirroring Winni. The coves, eastern shores, and calm areas have been frozen for a while and are all pretty solid at this point. But the deep areas and middle are still stubbornly staying open, despite the consistently cold temps of the past week.

Rob M 12-27-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wadeja (Post 272928)
We have been locked in with ice up here north of Moultonborough Bay for 2 weeks now. I took another walk out toward Gansey Island and drilled through 8 inches of ice. 5 inches of "slush ice" on top and 3 inches of black ice underneath. Kinda surprised to not see people ice fishing out there yet.

Can not ice fish on the big lake until January 1.

wadeja 12-27-2016 10:55 AM

Well that explains it!
 
Thanks for the info Rob M. We had snowmobiles zipping around here this weekend but nobody fishing.

ITD 12-27-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wadeja (Post 273057)
Thanks for the info Rob M. We had snowmobiles zipping around here this weekend but nobody fishing.

Can't fish on Winnipesaukee until January 1.

Merrymeeting 12-27-2016 12:03 PM

The warmer temps and rain of the past week caused the ice on Merrymeeting to retreat quite a bit. More than half the lake is still open and the areas are expanding.

It's not safe to be on the ice yet!

NUMechEng 12-30-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 273059)
Can't fish on Winnipesaukee until January 1.

The January 1 'start of season' in Winnipesaukee is for Lake Trout.
Majority of species in Winni don't have a specific 'season'.

http://www.eregulations.com/newhamps...special-rules/

AC2717 12-30-2016 02:50 PM

hopefully we will get the Pond Hockey Classic on Lake Winni this year

ITD 12-31-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NUMechEng (Post 273225)
The January 1 'start of season' in Winnipesaukee is for Lake Trout.
Majority of species in Winni don't have a specific 'season'.

http://www.eregulations.com/newhamps...special-rules/

That's what I thought until someone pointed out line 6 in the page you linked:

From April 1 through December 31, no person may take fish through the ice, from the ice, or from any object supported by the ice.


Clear as mud??

MAXUM 12-31-2016 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 273250)
That's what I thought until someone pointed out line 6 in the page you linked:

From April 1 through December 31, no person may take fish through the ice, from the ice, or from any object supported by the ice.


Clear as mud??

Makes perfect sense.

Ice fishing ONLY season is from 1/1 to 3/31. No fishing from boat or shore.

You cannot ice fish any other time meaning 4/1 through 12/31. You can fish from boat or shore if whatever you are fishing for is open for the taking during those dates.

Rob M 01-04-2017 11:42 AM

Ice Fishing Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NUMechEng (Post 273225)
The January 1 'start of season' in Winnipesaukee is for Lake Trout.
Majority of species in Winni don't have a specific 'season'.

http://www.eregulations.com/newhamps...special-rules/

The law book is meant to be read by lawyers, and not fisherman. But the lake is closed to ice fishing except between the dates of Jan 1 and March 31...no matter what species you are targeting. This is for all designated lake trout/salmon waters in NH....no ice fishing outside of those dates for anything.

8gv 01-04-2017 12:52 PM

When I wish to better understand the fishing regs I search online for the official state site.

Several alternaive sites come up.

Which one is really the state of NH?

http://www.eregulations.com/newhamps...special-rules/

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/

https://www.nhfishandgame.com/


I would hope that a site published by the state would have the most correct info. but then I recall something about the IRS still penalizing taxpayers who relied on the IRS's incorrect help line advice.

Phantom 01-04-2017 02:25 PM

Hmmmmmmm ........

How does an "Ice In" thread become a discussion about Fishing

Go figure !


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ITD 01-04-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 273381)
Hmmmmmmm ........

How does an "Ice In" thread become a discussion about Fishing

Go figure !


.

Ve vill stick to zee subject matter to my satisfaction or else!! :D

CAVU 01-07-2017 03:08 PM

Looks like seeing the rattlesnake cam, the middle has frozen up...

Island Girl 01-07-2017 03:50 PM

Getting There
 
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A lot has skimmed over. It appears to be a wide strip of open water much further out from Rattlesnake Island.

Slickcraft 01-07-2017 04:00 PM

We just back from walking on Scenic Road near Ellacoya. Large floating patches of skim ice interspersed with open water out toward Welch and the Broads. If it remained calm it would ice over by Monday however moderate wind tomorrow and Monday may prevent that.

I'll take a look in the morning on the way back from Planet Fitness.

PCTim 01-08-2017 08:09 AM

Anyone have any info on Meredith Bay? I'm curious as to whether the Pond Hockey Classic will be on the big lake this year.

Thanks!

RUGMAN 01-08-2017 08:35 AM

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View from Doe point.https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...1&d=1483882509

MAXUM 01-08-2017 08:36 AM

Not current but it was all open water last weekend. I suspect that probably has changed.

Lots of ice has been forming all over the place which is a welcome sign just hope it can hold, looks like another quick shot of warm is coming this week.

IslandRadio 01-08-2017 09:10 AM

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It looks pretty frozen over from the South/West side of Rattlesnake looking out towards Diamond island and Gilford.

This comes from: http://www.rattlesnakeisland.net/cam.htm

Slickcraft 01-08-2017 09:29 AM

Belknap Point today
 
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It is mostly blue water between Belknap Point and Welch and on out to the Broads.

Between Ames Farm and Diamond it looked like all ice, there is a band of open water between Ames and Rattlesnake.

baastan 01-08-2017 10:16 AM

So it appears a lot of the open water has locked in, correct me if I am wrong, isn't usually Welchs the last to lock in every year? Stubborn!

Meredith Bay is fully locked and met up with the weirs as well. I am up in Leavitt Park and across from black cat this all looks to have met together too. Very cold for a few days should really help build the ice, 2-3 inches a day hopefully before the warm air returns.

smith point boater 01-09-2017 07:09 AM

Ice
 
Lake is frozen between Smith Point and Rattlesnake and Sleepers and NE looking to Wolfeboro. Looking W/NW of Rattlesnake it still looks like there is a large patch of open water in the Broads

Dad sold the C * C 01-09-2017 08:28 AM

From my camera it looks like Winnisquam has skimmed over this weekend. My view is looking east toward the state park just south of Pot Island.

ishoot308 01-09-2017 09:23 AM

Lots Of Open Water Still
 
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This first pic is looking north. Welch Island in the background. You can see the ice line just north of Welch. While there is some ice bergs forming there is still a lot of open water.

ishoot308 01-09-2017 09:25 AM

Broads
 
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This pic is looking Northeast at the broads. As you can see it's all open water from Sandy Island to Lake Shore Park...

Dan

JMR 01-09-2017 10:28 AM

Gunstock
 
From the top of Gunstock you can see lots of open water in Broads. Both sides of Rattlesnake Island peninsula, sometimes called Alligator Point, are iced in. Open water south of RI. I will be back on top of Gunstock Wednesday and will try to take a good pic of progress.


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