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Greene's Basin Girl 06-08-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg (Post 246368)
I also agree it's a great quick meal, my only complaint if I had to think of something is the fact that they take no plastic as a form of payment. I don't go for the excuse it helps keep their cost down. I'd rather see the prices increase a couple percent for the added convenience. In todays society everybody uses it and it's getting to be more and more of an inconvenience when you come across an establishment that doesn't take it.

I agree with you. I rarely carry much cash. Also I enjoy getting the points when I use my credit card. When I go on vacation I always fly free with my points.

tummyman 06-08-2015 02:37 PM

I like the fact the VK keeps prices low. We almost always pay by check...never an issue. Lot's of folks are on fixed incomes and being able to enjoy a reasonably priced meal at VK is an outing for some. I would not want to hurt some older folks or those on limited incomes. I suppose they could offer a credit card solution with a 3-4% fee tacked on the bottom for those who wish to use a credit card.....sort of like the two price structure in some gas stations..but which I HATE !!! I would not be in favor of an across the board price increase just to cover those who want to use a card.

Shreddy 06-08-2015 02:50 PM

This isn't that hard...everyone that goes to the VK and enjoys it knows that it's cash. There's an ATM right there if you're short, if not, plan ahead. I've been so desperate for VK several times that I've legit paid in quarters because I didn't have a bunch of cash and I refuse to get double whacked by the ATM. Regardless, as much as I would love for them to accept credit cards, I know they don't and it really isn't an issue because I KNOW they don't. Clearly it's not an issue because people still go there consistently.

VK will always be worth the hassle, to me, of finding cash to use to buy my farmer's breakfast...with chocolate chip pancakes, extra bacon, and cheese on my eggs (all for justifiable extra cost).

WINNOCTURN 06-08-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shreddy (Post 246418)
This isn't that hard...everyone that goes to the VK and enjoys it knows that it's cash. There's an ATM right there if you're short, if not, plan ahead. I've been so desperate for VK several times that I've legit paid in quarters because I didn't have a bunch of cash and I refuse to get double whacked by the ATM. Regardless, as much as I would love for them to accept credit cards, I know they don't and it really isn't an issue because I KNOW they don't. Clearly it's not an issue because people still go there consistently.

VK will always be worth the hassle, to me, of finding cash to use to buy my farmer's breakfast...with chocolate chip pancakes, extra bacon, and cheese on my eggs (all for justifiable extra cost).

Shreddy,

I usually pay by CHECK, Meredith Village Savings. Not sure if it is just local Banks? Even though I pay the Bill by Check, I leave the TIP in CASH where it's by Check or Credit Card.

2 EGG cheese omelet, extra Home Fries and a side of Bacon! Can't be beat.:liplick::liplick:

Shreddy 06-08-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WINNOCTURN (Post 246420)
Shreddy,

I usually pay by CHECK, Meredith Village Savings. Not sure if it is just local Banks? Even though I pay the Bill by Check, I leave the TIP in CASH where it's by Check or Credit Card.

2 EGG cheese omelet, extra Home Fries and a side of Bacon! Can't be beat.:liplick::liplick:

Sounds solid right there! Yeah, I forget about checks too. But checks are essentially more dead to me than cash. :D

TiltonBB 06-08-2015 06:49 PM

No it is not
 
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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 246382)
If I remember correctly, it's a $3 charge to use it. I've avoided that by paying with check, but I agree with the post above that it's time to start accepting cards.

The fee on the ATM at Village Kitchen is $2.50, not $3.00.

Don't forget that in order to provide that convenience for those people who do not carry cash there are significant costs to have an ATM available. The cost of the machine itself, access to internet service and a procesing company for the machine to provide transactions through. It is also necessary to tie up thousands of dollars in ATM machine inventory to have that cash available to customers.

Also, people who use that machine may take out a lot more money than they spend at the Village Kitchen so that they have a little "walking around" money.

There are no free lunches anymore! It costs money to go through life!

TiltonBB 06-08-2015 07:13 PM

Sort of
 
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Originally Posted by Greene's Basin Girl (Post 246414)
I agree with you. I rarely carry much cash. Also I enjoy getting the points when I use my credit card. When I go on vacation I always fly free with my points.

You may think that you are flying free but all of the places that you use your credit card have increased their prices to cover the additional fees that your credit card company takes when you use your card. So really, you have paid all year long, every time you have used your card, by paying higher prices so that you can get your points.

Like the old muffler ad says.................."You can pay me now or you can pay me later" :laugh:

Charlie T 06-08-2015 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 246429)

Like the old muffler ad says.................."You can pay me now or you can pay me later" :laugh:

Hate to be a nit picker but that was an old Fram oil filter commercial. :cool:

brk-lnt 06-08-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 246428)

Don't forget that in order to provide that convenience for those people who do not carry cash there are significant costs to have an ATM available. The cost of the machine itself, access to internet service and a procesing company for the machine to provide transactions through. It is also necessary to tie up thousands of dollars in ATM machine inventory to have that cash available to customers.

ATM's are very profitable to own these days. If the VK is actually *paying* to have an ATM there, they are getting robbed. They should either own the ATM (and make money off the fees) or lease the space to whoever owns/maintains the ATM.

TiltonBB 06-08-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 246434)
ATM's are very profitable to own these days. If the VK is actually *paying* to have an ATM there, they are getting robbed. They should either own the ATM (and make money off the fees) or lease the space to whoever owns/maintains the ATM.

The ATM's are only profitable beyond a significant number of monthly transactions. There are expenses like processing, internet access, disputed transactions, and repairs, that significantly affect the income. There is also state licensing because when a machine is not bank owned there is an annual state license fee. There is also the cost of keeping your cash in an an ATM machine

Also, all of the older ATM's must now be converted to a machine that accepts the newer credit cards that have the chip in them. That expense is in excess of $1,000 per ATM

brk-lnt 06-09-2015 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 246429)
You may think that you are flying free but all of the places that you use your credit card have increased their prices to cover the additional fees that your credit card company takes when you use your card. So really, you have paid all year long, every time you have used your card, by paying higher prices so that you can get your points.

Like the old muffler ad says.................."You can pay me now or you can pay me later" :laugh:

Except that the price is the same cash or credit. So if the prices are going to be higher you might as well use a points card to get something back...

wifi 06-09-2015 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by brk-lnt (Post 246438)
Except that the price is the same cash or credit. So if the prices are going to be higher you might as well use a points card to get something back...

Exactly, since everyone else is financing your points by paying higher prices

Major 06-09-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wifi (Post 246439)
Exactly, since everyone else is financing your points by paying higher prices

This is the definition of pennywise, pound foolish. If you're worried about paying an extra 2-5 percent for the convenience of paying with a credit card, eat at home. I highly doubt VK's prices are cheaper because it doesn't accept credit cards. I've eaten breakfast at VK, George's, Water Street, Deja Vu, etc. and haven't noticed an appreciable difference in price.

dpg 06-09-2015 10:43 AM

Lets not forget the number 1 reason and that is CASH IS KING. Nobody REALLY knows what your making, claiming, etc...We all know it's true. :eek:

wifi 06-10-2015 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Major (Post 246444)
...I've eaten breakfast at VK, George's, Water Street, Deja Vu, etc. and haven't noticed an appreciable difference in price.

But I like the VK, speaking from the theoretical



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Originally Posted by dpg (Post 246468)
Lets not forget the number 1 reason and that is CASH IS KING. Nobody REALLY knows what your making, claiming, etc...We all know it's true. :eek:

Right on

Joebon 06-10-2015 06:44 AM

Is it true that Village Kitchen now accepts bitcoins?

SAMIAM 06-10-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg (Post 246468)
Lets not forget the number 1 reason and that is CASH IS KING. Nobody REALLY knows what your making, claiming, etc...We all know it's true. :eek:

Had to chuckle over this one.....wish I could stash a little mad money but,unfortunately we have a POS system......can't get a muffin out of the kitchen that's not recorded on the computer.
It's really not the 3% fee that keeps us from taking plastic.On busy days there is sometimes a line 4 or 5 deep waiting to pay and processing credit cards would slow things down.
I'm sure everyone here can remember a time they were waiting in line for a long transaction and a rejection can cause cause a huge delay.
Most of our customers are not here to linger over the lavish decorations.They want a good meal at a fair price and then want to get on with their day so we choose to keep things moving as fast as possible.BTW,if you need to use the ATM your bank will refund the fee if you save your receipt.
We know that the day will come when we have to make that change but for now it is working.

brk-lnt 06-10-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 246533)
I'm sure everyone here can remember a time they were waiting in line for a long transaction and a rejection can cause cause a huge delay.

I can't remember the last time I've been held up by someones card getting rejected. I can recall 3 times in the last month getting slowed down by check writers and someone claiming they had "exact change" somewhere within the confines a purse that would qualify as an oversize carry-on on some airlines.

Not taking credit cards on the basis of transaction processing times is not something I've heard of before.

Bigstan 06-10-2015 12:31 PM

So I guess...
 
Apple Pay is off the table ?

Tired of Waiting 06-10-2015 02:35 PM

Yo
 
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Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 246533)
Had to chuckle over this one.....(Snip).

SAMIAM, you do know that all of us here on this site can run your very successful business better than you, Right? After all we all have run a nice like village kitchen eatery that NO one has ever found an issue with!!

I know your policy and carry cash when I drive buy to have a bite to eat. Just saying.


ToW

tis 06-10-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tired of Waiting (Post 246563)
SAMIAM, you do know that all of us here on this site can run your very successful business better than you, Right? After all we all have run a nice like village kitchen eatery that NO one has ever found an issue with!!

I know your policy and carry cash when I drive buy to have a bite to eat. Just saying.


ToW

I know. You are very patient, Sam! I agree with Tow. People love to give advice don't they? Keep on doing what you have been doing all these years!

ishoot308 06-10-2015 02:46 PM

Why would Sam change anything?... They already have customers lined up out the door waiting to come in! They obviously know the recipe for success and have been a VERY successful business in an area where many fail. Why change a thing?... I know I wouldn't...

Dan

upthesaukee 06-10-2015 05:27 PM

No different than Pop's... cash or a check drawn on a NH bank.

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dpg 06-11-2015 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 246533)
Had to chuckle over this one.....wish I could stash a little mad money but,unfortunately we have a POS system......can't get a muffin out of the kitchen that's not recorded on the computer.
It's really not the 3% fee that keeps us from taking plastic.On busy days there is sometimes a line 4 or 5 deep waiting to pay and processing credit cards would slow things down.
I'm sure everyone here can remember a time they were waiting in line for a long transaction and a rejection can cause cause a huge delay.
Most of our customers are not here to linger over the lavish decorations.They want a good meal at a fair price and then want to get on with their day so we choose to keep things moving as fast as possible.BTW,if you need to use the ATM your bank will refund the fee if you save your receipt.
We know that the day will come when we have to make that change but for now it is working.

Yeah right.....Nuff said.....Bye....:D

rsmlp 06-11-2015 06:43 AM

Vk
 
After reading X number of responses in this thread I have to say that I am amazed at the silly things people can bitch at. I mean seriously people, is this all you have to do? If you don't like VK's policy of cash only, don't eat there!

Rusty 06-11-2015 08:10 AM

Restaurants that don't take credit cards are saying: "Hey customer, **** you!"

meredith weekender 06-11-2015 08:27 AM

All this talk about the VK makes me want to go have breakfast there this weekend. Guess we are going to the VK on Saturday morning.

Tired of Waiting 06-11-2015 09:11 AM

Standing in line
 
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 246595)
Restaurants that don't take credit cards are saying: "Hey customer, **** you!"

Last time there I had to stand in a waiting line to get a seat. Sure am glad I didn't have to stand in line waiting for your credit card to clear to get out.:D


And I never heard any customer standing in line to get in say the place was saying **** You cause they couldn't use their plastic money.


ToW

HomeWood 06-11-2015 09:15 AM

The VK's cash policy? I like the break from technology. How did people ever make it for all those years without cards?

VitaBene 06-11-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 246595)
Restaurants that don't take credit cards are saying: "Hey customer, **** you!"

That is ridiculous.

Happy Gourmand 06-11-2015 10:25 AM

The line outside the door on weekend mornings says it all. The great food at great prices are worth the minor inconvenience of not accepting credit cards. My only complaint is that we don't get there as often as we used to when we were in Moultonboro. Breakfast as good as any in the area, and better than most....oh boy...now I'm craving the Farmer's Breakfast!! :)

Rusty 06-11-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 246602)
That is ridiculous.

That could be, but any restaurant that refuses credit cards is losing 25-30% in business.
There is no doubt that VK has good food and service, I am not critizing that.

thinkxingu 06-11-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 246613)
That could be, but any restaurant that refuses credit cards is losing 25-30% in business.
There is no doubt that VK has good food and service, I am not critizing that.

I think they should accept CCs, too, but VK simply couldn't handle 25% more business, anyway. I don't think I've ever not waited, which is why we don't go there much. And it's not always been because of customers.

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wifi 06-11-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 246613)
That could be, but any restaurant that refuses credit cards is losing 25-30% in business.
There is no doubt that VK has good food and service, I am not critizing that.

I'd rather they keep it as they are, so the line is 30% shorter :)

Rusty 06-11-2015 09:17 PM

Customers who pay with a credit card will spend more money on their meal, servers get bigger tips, etc...:D

TiltonBB 06-11-2015 11:17 PM

Proof?
 
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 246613)
That could be, but any restaurant that refuses credit cards is losing 25-30% in business.
There is no doubt that VK has good food and service, I am not critizing that.

Can you please cite the source of the information that the restaurant is losing 25 - 30% of it's business?

Also, please cite the source of the information that "Customers who pay with a credit card will spend more money on their meal, servers get bigger tips, etc"

I am just wondering how you know these things.

Rusty 06-12-2015 05:42 AM

IMO A place that doesn't take cards is not good, but a place that doesn't take cards and has an ATM right outside—that's just straight up evil. It's like "thanks for patronizing our establishment, let me kick you in your soft spot on the way out!"

The 25-30% that I stated could even be higher.

NonVoting Taxpayer 06-12-2015 06:25 AM

I find all of this very amusing. If the owner doesn't want to take credit cards, sorry, but it's his business decision. I'll say what Samiam can't as a business owner. TAKE YOUR PLASTIC SOMEWHERE ELSE as there are many who don't mind payng cash. It doesn't sound like his business is hurting so why would he change and pay money to banks in the form of a 1% - 3% service charge?
I'm sure if he opened up on Saturday and no one showed up he would rethink his business model but it doesn't look like he needs to do that.
Samiam is actually telling all of you who for one reason or another won't carry cash to go to the ATM outside and you pay the service charge out of your pocket. To me that is a great business decision on his part. He doesn't have to raise the price of meals to his cash paying customers and those who like to pay by plastic (and think the prices should be increased to pay bank fees) can pay more as has been mentioned above. So what's the problem?

SAB1 06-12-2015 08:20 AM

Funny stuff here. VK is great food, no doubt. Cant even come close to a breakfast like that in Wolfeboro. I don't mind having to spend cash at all but......I gotta agree with Rusty here. The world runs on credit these days and there are definitely folks that don't eat there because they don't take credit. The younger generation coming along is very different from the one that raised them. I've got 2 kids in their 20's and all credit and debit cards, never cash. They, VK, have plenty of business from what I see when I'm in there and agree it is their decision for sure.

Rusty 06-12-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NonVoting Taxpayer (Post 246666)
I find all of this very amusing. If the owner doesn't want to take credit cards, sorry, but it's his business decision. I'll say what Samiam can't as a business owner. TAKE YOUR PLASTIC SOMEWHERE ELSE as there are many who don't mind payng cash. It doesn't sound like his business is hurting so why would he change and pay money to banks in the form of a 1% - 3% service charge?
I'm sure if he opened up on Saturday and no one showed up he would rethink his business model but it doesn't look like he needs to do that.
Samiam is actually telling all of you who for one reason or another won't carry cash to go to the ATM outside and you pay the service charge out of your pocket. To me that is a great business decision on his part. He doesn't have to raise the price of meals to his cash paying customers and those who like to pay by plastic (and think the prices should be increased to pay bank fees) can pay more as has been mentioned above. So what's the problem?

I agree with all that you have said, I was talking about businesses in general and some businesses like VK seem to be doing a booming business.

With todays technology it's nice to see that some businesses can survive without using what is available.


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