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KPW 03-18-2020 02:06 PM

They are working on renovations basically 7 days a week. They have a ways to go.

SAB1 03-19-2020 04:45 AM

With what is going on now in the Country as a result of the virus makes opening a business scary. Let’s hope these folks can endure this and survive it. I wish them well as I’m sure they are excited.

thinkxingu 05-14-2020 07:26 PM

Any updates on the store?! My daughter is asking for ice cream...on the jetski this weekend!

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bobkatfly 05-15-2020 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 334756)
Any updates on the store?! My daughter is asking for ice cream...on the jetski this weekend!

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New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.

thinkxingu 05-15-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bobkatfly (Post 334773)
New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.

Thanks, friend!

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Rich 05-18-2020 06:37 AM

I saw a post on Facebook that Pier 19 is now selling gas again, welcome back!

WinniGas even received a price report.

If anyone knows the owner/operator of the Fuel dock, please have them contact WinniGas.com to update the details about the fuel dock, things like phone number, hours of operation, additive (if any), web page, etc. would be very helpful.

bobkatfly 05-26-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobkatfly (Post 334773)
New roof is on, lots of work going on inside. Sign outside says opening soon. Don't have an actual date though. Been meaning to stop and ask but they haven't been outside when I'm going by. I'll post if I hear.

So, I've been by the store a number of times and haven't seen anyone outside. Seems to be primarily inside work. Drove by slow today and from what I saw through the windows, they seem far away from being finished. Also, the rooftop AC units are still on the ground in crates. Could be mid to late summer unless they open the outside service window for limited (ice cream) items. With the gas pumps open, that would make sense so as to give us all some hope while they finish. Next time I'm by I'll try talking to the pump attendant although I'm sure he's been asked already and maybe sworn to secrecy.

Bmcgov78 05-26-2020 07:54 PM

I spoke to the young guy at the gas pumps. He was very nice and is the Son of the new owner. Their intentions were to be open this past weekend but construction delays were out of their control. They are intending on being open in the next few weeks. I wish them good luck and I am pumped up for the re-opening.

KPW 05-26-2020 09:49 PM

The way they are working, it should be a couple of weeks, not months.

chasedawg 05-29-2020 10:31 PM

Pier 19 gas dock
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 334924)
I saw a post on Facebook that Pier 19 is now selling gas again, welcome back!

WinniGas even received a price report.

If anyone knows the owner/operator of the Fuel dock, please have them contact WinniGas.com to update the details about the fuel dock, things like phone number, hours of operation, additive (if any), web page, etc. would be very helpful.

I talked to Moe at the gas docks. Owners son. I told him to contact you on the forum. He found your thread. Not sure if he was able to post.

I should let them speak for themselves. This is what he told me. He is the gas attendant. He arrives at 8:00 AM and is at the gas dock until 6:00 everyday. I saw the price per gallon was $2.955 including Valtec additive.

I said looks like your parents have a long way to go. He said no not really we should be good in a couple of weeks. I will update when I get more information. Moe did say he gave Rich the information today.

Rich 06-03-2020 07:28 AM

I made it a point to drive there this past weekend and to stop by and speak with Moe.

I let him know how to contact me and invited him to use WinniGas.com to keep his price updated for everyone to see.

They don't have an active phone, email or website yet, when they are active, I'll update their listing when the info is sent to me.

Thanks

Bmcgov78 06-12-2020 07:49 AM

Any update on opening?

chasedawg 06-13-2020 02:36 PM

Pier 19 store
 
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Originally Posted by Bmcgov78 (Post 336624)
Any update on opening?


I talked to Mahnaz the store owner and asked if she thought they would be open by the 4th of July. She rolled her eyes and said "I hope so"! They still have a long way to go. Large Air conditioning units still crated up and laying in the back parking lot. She did say they are trying to open the ice cream and snack bar take out window hopefully before the 4th.

yogi berra 06-17-2020 05:06 PM

boat slip owners opposition to store
 
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.

DEJ 06-17-2020 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yogi berra (Post 336927)
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.

Great first post without any factual data. The association is not opposed to the store. The owner of the store has not been sued. The locked gates have been there for 4 years, long before the new owners purchased the store. The store is currently not open due to the new owners inability to get it ready to open, nothing to do with the dock owners. The president is not someone named Hill and the association is well aware of what is going on, unlike yourself.
In the future if you want to participate in this discussion please get your facts straight.

chasedawg 06-17-2020 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by yogi berra (Post 336927)
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.

How and where did you get this kind of information?? All of your claims are not at all factual. You are creating an issue on your own and on the forum that will not help the store succeed. Why are you posting this?

JEEPONLY 06-18-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yogi berra (Post 336927)
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.

Your post (info/typing) makes the REAL Yogi sound like a Phd (which, maybe, he did anyway)! :eek:

MRA 06-21-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DEJ (Post 336934)
Great first post without any factual data. The association is not opposed to the store. The owner of the store has not been sued. The locked gates have been there for 4 years, long before the new owners purchased the store. The store is currently not open due to the new owners inability to get it ready to open, nothing to do with the dock owners. The president is not someone named Hill and the association is well aware of what is going on, unlike yourself.
In the future if you want to participate in this discussion please get your facts straight.

I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020

SAB1 06-21-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MRA (Post 337213)
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020

Possibly the prior owner but really a stretch to see this against the current owner. Guy has spent a ton of money on the place. Hope he makes it best wishes for a good start. From the sound of it he hopes to open next weekend in some capacity.

FlyingScot 06-21-2020 09:03 PM

To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.

DEJ 06-22-2020 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MRA (Post 337213)
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020

There was a court date on 6/17/2020, it had nothing to do with the association suing the store owners. The facts are differences between them are being worked out amicably. Please do not spread rumors. Thank you.

thinkxingu 06-22-2020 06:03 AM

So "two" new members posting questionable, inflammatory, posts in a few days.

Is it time to institute a waiting period to post or what?!

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thinkxingu 06-22-2020 08:49 AM

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lakewinnie 06-22-2020 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yogi berra (Post 336927)
I have been informed that the store owner has been sued by the boat slip oners. I gather they dispute his parking rights. In addition they have added locked gatges to the 2 docks we used to park at to access the store. Like all the posters here, I think it would be great to have the store open and intend to support it. I cant imagine why the slip owners would not also be supportive. Doeas anyont know any of them. I gather there are 64 owners of slips who are members of a condo association. and the pres of thr association is a guy named hill. It may be that he is acting without their support. I think we should try to gwt them turned around.

Yogi Berra: Besides all that, Jackie Robinson was safe at home plate!

SAB1 06-22-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 337215)
To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.

I saw this as well. Not sure what that is about but there was an accident in that area a couple weeks ago and with the store getting ready to open wondering if they are putting in flashing lights or something? People coming down that hill from 20 Mile Bay area are often well over the speed limit by the time hit the bottom of that hill.

Just Wonderin 06-22-2020 08:55 PM

Possible answer to survey
 
A crosswalk is currently being considered. Maybe that's what you saw. A few years ago, the Boat Owners Association tried to get a crosswalk approved for the safety of all who crossed the road. It got down to the final stages but the vote to approve maintaining the crosswalk did not pass at the town meeting. The crosswalk is now back on the table for consideration with the full support of the boat owners and area merchants.

chasedawg 06-22-2020 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MRA (Post 337213)
I know and it’s a fact that association has sued the store owners and the court date was 06/17/2020

Oh great. Here we go again. Enough. If you feel it is necessary for you to post negative comments about the store please identify your source. Why are these first posters posting this stuff? Yes there was a hearing to make sure the parties were able to communicate any differences.

I originally started this post back sometime early 2020 to help promote the store and it's success. If one would go back and read some posts I asked all of you what would you suggest to the new store owners what would you like to see them do that would make you keep coming back. There were some great ideas.

I have been a charter member of Pier 19 condo Association. This has turned into potential damaging and negative posts from these first timer posters that can only hurt the stores success. Who and where is this coming from? It seems these posters are trying to cause issues that are not helping the stores success. The new owner told me she have never owned or operated a store no less a grocery store. She is well aware of the store past history but yet she has invested a great deal of money to make the store look great again.

Please stop this nonsense. I hope the store will open soon.

chasedawg 06-22-2020 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 337215)
To continue with the good fun of speculating with only shreds of information--There were surveyors on site on 6/18--on the store side, lake side, and in the road. This struck me as unusual at the time, but it would be consistent with a legal tussle of who is allowed where.

Why are people putting a negative spin on all that is going with the store trying to open. And hopefully soon.

DOT is out surveying for a potential CROSSWALK.

FlyingScot 06-23-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chasedawg (Post 337268)
Why are people putting a negative spin on all that is going with the store trying to open. And hopefully soon.

DOT is out surveying for a potential CROSSWALK.

I did not mean for my post to be a negative spin, and I don't read it that way now either. Nor do I think any of these posts will hurt sales at Pier 19. Nobody has said that the owner's done anything wrong or that the store is in anyway a problem. I wish the best for the new owner, and I will be there to shop soon after opening :)

chasedawg 06-23-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 337301)
I did not mean for my post to be a negative spin, and I don't read it that way now either. Nor do I think any of these posts will hurt sales at Pier 19. Nobody has said that the owner's done anything wrong or that the store is in anyway a problem. I wish the best for the new owner, and I will be there to shop soon after opening :)

FlyingScot. No I didn't think your post was negative at all. I thought it was helpful and supportive. It's others especially the first time posters. Someone is trying to cause unnecessary confusion. Not sure why.

We all are pulling for the store.

TFP 06-24-2020 04:00 PM

I am amongst those strongly rooting for the store. However, I am concerned about it’s prospects without access to the dock that all previous iterations of the store had. I know the dock is owned by the association and that they installed shark diving cage style doors on the dock to limit access and protect their boats. But with that door in place and no agreement on the use of the dock how will the business be able to survive?

I know the pier is open to the public but the space not taken up by the fire boat and other permanent fixtures on the dock is very limited.

And lastly, I realize there have been multiple first time commenters on this thread and that I will appear as one as well but I want to make it clear I have no connection to any parties involved. I’ve read the forum for years without ever feeling the urge to put my two cents in. But as an islander who misses a store close by that doesn’t require getting in a car, I’m interested to see how this plays out.

CowTimes 06-24-2020 04:14 PM

I also hope that the store is highly successful. I hope that the new owners are able to have offerings that will attract the year-round business that the store probably needs (and that are missing in that area).

I think there were posts on the forum in the past of how the gates were installed because of theft from the boats of the dock owners. I certainly don’t begrudge them for doing what they needed to do to secure their boats since that entire dock is their private property. And that was obviously known when the new store owner bought. It’s just a shame the gates were even needed.

I believe there is a project for the town-owned pier to make improvements that would increase public access. This was raised at several Tuftonboro board of Selectmen meetings, but not sure where that currently stands, as they were having issues with the state and DES over the repairs/improvements.

thinkxingu 06-24-2020 05:58 PM

I was there a couple weeks ago, and if I remember correctly the shark cage only kept one finger protected?

Also, docking to the wharf blows. I thought the whole one side of the dock opposite the wharf was public in the past?

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CowTimes 06-24-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 337400)
I was there a couple weeks ago, and if I remember correctly the shark cage only kept one finger protected?

Also, docking to the wharf blows. I thought the whole one side of the dock opposite the wharf was public in the past?

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The gates are on both docks where the boat slips are. The association let the public use the dock opposite the wharf for many years, and we used it often coming from the island. That changed a few years ago when it apparently became an issue when, as often happens, a few bad apples spoiled it for the rest of us who would tie up there for a quick ice cream run.

Hopefully the town will improve the wharf, as it certainly needs improvement and it seems unlikely that the association would open their docks back up for the public to use given past experiences.

SAB1 06-24-2020 09:56 PM

Hopefully they can figure it out. The north side of the wharf (fire boat/ epo boat are on south side) seems to get pretty shallow in August. They need to somehow dredge that side. If the intention to stay open year is true (hope it is) they need to figure out a way to get sleds and Atv’s up onto that gas dock. Lot of open water due to bubblers in winter.

TFP 06-24-2020 10:04 PM

I definitely don’t begrudge property owners for protecting their property. I just believe the current situation could set the store up for failure.

In years of going to the store by boat, I remember busy days on the lake resulting in crowded docks on the wharf and association side. And on those crowded days around ice cream time there were usually even boats waiting for dock space. Even with those busy days the store wasn’t able to make a go of it enough to keep the owners running the business. If you take half of the dock space away from the new owners who have invested a great deal of money into their new business I don’t see how they are able to succeed.

I don’t know about everyone else, I want the place to succeed but not enough to get in the car and drive there if I can’t find open, safe dock space. Hopefully some fair agreement can be reached with the association to open the shark cage.

LIforrelaxin 06-26-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TFP (Post 337411)

I don’t know about everyone else, I want the place to succeed but not enough to get in the car and drive there if I can’t find open, safe dock space. Hopefully some fair agreement can be reached with the association to open the shark cage.

Correct, I would pass to many other places with similar services on my way there by car.....

I do believe they can make a go of it. When it was operated as a Grocery Store back in the 80s, they where open year around, and I don't think had to much problem. Obviously the made their profits in the summer....

When the next owner moved to a more convenience store model, is when it seem to struggle.

Time will tell how the current owners idea's will pan out....

chasedawg 06-26-2020 05:28 PM

Pier 19 store is open
 
Yes the store is now open! Saw people wearing masks.

DEJ 06-26-2020 05:38 PM

Any idea what the hours are?

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