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The CDC “guess” indeed. Take at look at Italy. 15k reported. 1k dead already. 1k recovered. 13k ongoing. Depending on how you want to look at those statistics the mortality rate is anywhere from 7.333 to 50%. This is not an insignificant sample. We don’t know enough yet to make an intelligent guess. If you are young and/or healthy and don’t know anyone that isn’t, Then maybe you are ok. You still need to worry about any of your healthy friends that do know someone who isn’t. Follow the advice from CDC and other sources you trust. Best way to get rid of this thing is to take it seriously. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Honestly get over it! He is by far the best president in my lifetime. He has done more for more Americans during three years than his lazy do nothing predecessor did in eight. All Obama did was destroy healthcare. So what, he uses Twitter to fight back. He doesn’t appear as “presidential” as the RHINO Bush. Look at what he’s accomplished. It’s tremendous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Considering the stock market decline, lost wages and the diminished income of the self employed, I'd bet boat dealers have a pessimistic outlook for sales this year.
Throw in a boat show cancellation or three and we now have a buyer's market. Drive a hard bargain and hope the dealer has missed your "eager buyer" threads here. |
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I tipped both servers $20. Some people are gonna get crushed through this, and I'm fortunate enough to not have to worry about it, so I won't be busting my local dealer. Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Trust me, we were just as divided over lazy do-nothing Obama. Republicans and conservatives behaved like adults and didn’t throw hissy fits like children. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Long rant withheld. Tie for some respect of our elected officials and each other. The boat show was cancelled an so should be this thread.
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And that’s all the president’s fault? Nothing to do with the media, especially social media or the opposing side. It take two to tango and is this case 3. They are ALL to blame no one is innocent and politicians and the media willingly divide the country to achieve their objective of winning an election and gaining personal wealth at the expense of the people. Only one thing can save our system now. TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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My hope is that the much maligned millennials are able to step up and restore civility both in politics and everyday life. As long as the "adults" of today are unable or unwilling to see, let alone accept, any role they might have played or are continuing to play in the current toxic state in our great country, there will never be change. Instead, periodically there will be a shift in which party is in power, continued toxic rhetoric, and no meaningful, sustainable actions which will help us grow stronger not just today but for years to come. Maybe the millennials can't do it. Thus far, those of us in older generations have made things worse. And yes I know, it's not me, it's the other side. (That was meant to be both sarcastic and cynical) |
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Obama was lazy. Other than destroying healthcare what did he do? Give hundreds of millions of dollars to Iran for some meaningless treaty? Join the Paris climate accord so we could systematically destroy our energy advantage? He did NOTHING. A list of Trump's accomplishments: •Almost 4 million jobs created since election. •More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history. •Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs. •Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. •Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent. •New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low. •Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded. •African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. •Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded. •Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded. •Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years. •Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century. •Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma. •Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years. •Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election. •The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. •95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever. •Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year. •Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone. •As a result of the tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years. •Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines. •Record number of regulations eliminated. •Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions. •Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE. This is just a partial list. Two conservative supreme court justices are at the top of my list. You can say what you want about Trump, but he's a workaholic and a doer. By the way, I thought Bush was lazy too. |
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That said, I view these discussions like talking to my mother-in-law. My wife and I have an agreement with my mother-in-law not to talk politics because she always ends up crying. However, during even benign conversations she can't help pepper into the conversation digs and slights against Trump and republicans. With her, I try desperately not to respond. However, with the Forum, I feel differently. If I see a dig at our president or conservative values, I feel like I have to respond. I honestly try not to initiate. Most of my comments are in response to someone else's dig. However, I have probably initiated a few. That said, arguing for some of us is fun and engaging. I grew up in a family that did not hold back. We discussed things. If the members of the Forum do not like the political discussion, let me know and I'd be happy to comply. |
I will try my best to avoid political discussion and comment from now on.
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That would be me (among others). Political discussions have never been tolerated on this forum. I don't understand why this thread has been allowed to go on for so long. It says on the home forum page "Forums limited to Lakes Region Topics" |
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They really should be left to political forums where people enjoy trashing each other over their political view points. Or Twitter, where people say ***** without engaging their brain first. Thankfully I'm not on Twitter and I will never be on it! Over and out on this thread. |
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The amount of downplaying of the coronavirus threat on this feed by some is highly disturbing.
A month ago, many Americans had not heard of the virus. Two weeks ago, it was a problem on some cruise ships and in far away countries. Last week it was emerging in various parts of America via community spread. And all this time there has been a very minimal amount of actual testing done (unlike other countries that seem to have their act together). The sh_t hit the fan a few days ago for most of us. And you think this is an overreaction???? You think it was actually caused by media overreaction?? A week to ten days from now, our hospitals will be overwhelmed. It will get worse over the next month if people don't heed the warnings to lay low. We will lose loved ones, mostly senior citizens. People, get your heads straight. This is a serious threat and no amount of political posturing is going to make it magically go away. |
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As I've said before- this place is better than TV- not better than a book- but better than TV!
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Certainly not magically going away but the hoarding and panic buying and mass closures of schools and events is a gross overreaction and being propertied by the media that seems to only report new cases and deaths and nothing about the thousands that have recovered world wide. Yes be vigilant wash your hands use sanitizers and avoid unnecessary contact but also remember this is not an airborne illness. Additionally remember any politician no matter the side will try to obtain political gain from every unfortunate situation including this and the more you watch news stations the more ad money they receive. Everyone has an agenda. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Please stop--your nit picking clouds the issue. Virus from an infected sneeze will travel 6' through the air. Even if most will recover without much harm, this could kill a massive number of people. The steps our political leaders are taking are not an overreaction, they are a lighter version of those used effectively in China. I trust you would agree that their media is not driving their government. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...ther-countries |
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