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JEEPONLY 04-28-2020 06:31 PM

From what I've read...
 
If you have SS checks electronically deposited and/or you get tax REFUNDS electronically deposited- you should be good to go.

It sounds as though, if you don't have some kind of electronic input from the government (get tax refunds/SS), you need to make different arrangements.

ApS 04-30-2020 08:44 PM

As Iowa Goes, So Goes ???
 
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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 333097)
A friend checked the "Get my payment" website and it said his check would be mailed May 1st, along with a letter of explanation. So hang on, they are still processing checks.

Iowa is cutting off unemployment to employees who refuse to return to work. Will more states, like New Hampshire, follow? :confused:

Sue Doe-Nym 04-30-2020 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 333624)
Iowa is cutting off unemployment to employees who refuse to return to work. Will more states, like New Hampshire, follow? :confused:

We can only hope so! How can we expect to get back on track if a person benefits more by staying home rather than returning to work??? 🙄 Uh duh..... let me think....that’s a tough one!

WinnisquamZ 04-30-2020 09:24 PM

It requires the company to report back to the state that the employee refuses to comeback. Not a way to build employee/employer relations


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Sue Doe-Nym 04-30-2020 09:33 PM

What we’re they thinking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 333627)
It requires the company to report back to the state that the employee refuses to comeback. Not a way to build employee/employer relations


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Someone knowledgeable probably has an intelligent response, but I have wondered what geniuses thought this would be a workable solution to the unemployment problem (juicing it up with a $600 bonus). Terrible idea, IMO.

ApS 05-01-2020 05:24 AM

What Were They Thinking?
 
They were thinking, "Hey, it's not our money".

VitaBene 05-01-2020 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 333628)
Someone knowledgeable probably has an intelligent response, but I have wondered what geniuses thought this would be a workable solution to the unemployment problem (juicing it up with a $600 bonus). Terrible idea, IMO.

The misguided thought process was that unemployment alone would not be enough to keep the economy moving and keep people fed. Because of the short time they had to pass the bill they came up with that $600 extra as opposed to creating a formulation approach.

Paugus Bay Resident 05-01-2020 07:43 AM

Short term (quick or impulsive) solutions often have longer term consequences

tis 05-01-2020 07:43 AM

Anything the government does becomes a big mess. It is too big to do anything right. Too many cooks and all----

Hillcountry 05-01-2020 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 333628)
Someone knowledgeable probably has an intelligent response, but I have wondered what geniuses thought this would be a workable solution to the unemployment problem (juicing it up with a $600 bonus). Terrible idea, IMO.

My daughter, a hair dresser, lost her employment when they closed the salon at the beginning of this fiasco. Single mom with my 4 yr old granddaughter and a mortgage. She immediately applied for unemployment and when they calculated her benefit it came to $72/week. Their calculation formula, as the state law mandates, did not include her last (so many, months, not sure) of her income and she appealed that most of her “better” income had come in that “omitted” time period. They would not adjust anything and her benefit was to be $72.
Then they came out with the $600 deal and that lifted her spirits a bit.
She has since received the stimulus money for her and her daughter but has yet to see any unemployment benefit. (As of last week when I asked her)
Many will take advantage of that $600 and will not want to work but that is not the case with my daughter.

FlyingScot 05-01-2020 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 333666)
My daughter, a hair dresser, lost her employment when they closed the salon at the beginning of this fiasco. Single mom with my 4 yr old granddaughter and a mortgage. She immediately applied for unemployment and when they calculated her benefit it came to $72/week. Their calculation formula, as the state law mandates, did not include her last (so many, months, not sure) of her income and she appealed that most of her “better” income had come in that “omitted” time period. They would not adjust anything and her benefit was to be $72.
Then they came out with the $600 deal and that lifted her spirits a bit.
She has since received the stimulus money for her and her daughter but has yet to see any unemployment benefit. (As of last week when I asked her)
Many will take advantage of that $600 and will not want to work but that is not the case with my daughter.

A great illustration of how so many getting the $600 bump are often shorted in other ways. Plus, as I'm sure she's calculated, she's in big trouble if the stimulus runs out before the economy is back to full steam. As my hair stylist pointed out to me in 2008--when everybody changes from a haircut every 4 weeks to a haircut every 5 weeks, her already modest income drops by 20%.:eek:

The good news here for the rest of us--your daughter will likely spend every penny of the $600. This is not true of the $1200 recipients, many of whom will save some or all of the cash. Nothing wrong with that, but it will not stimulate the economy.

Give her a hug from the rest of us

Sue Doe-Nym 05-01-2020 09:35 AM

One size doesn’t work for all
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 333666)
My daughter, a hair dresser, lost her employment when they closed the salon at the beginning of this fiasco. Single mom with my 4 yr old granddaughter and a mortgage. She immediately applied for unemployment and when they calculated her benefit it came to $72/week. Their calculation formula, as the state law mandates, did not include her last (so many, months, not sure) of her income and she appealed that most of her “better” income had come in that “omitted” time period. They would not adjust anything and her benefit was to be $72.
Then they came out with the $600 deal and that lifted her spirits a bit.
She has since received the stimulus money for her and her daughter but has yet to see any unemployment benefit. (As of last week when I asked her)
Many will take advantage of that $600 and will not want to work but that is
not the case with my daughter.

Your daughter’s case illustrates the fact that “one size doesn’t fit all”, and for those who need the extra to make ends meet, that’s fine. However, there are always some who unfortunately “game the system “. There’s got to be a better way......

TiltonBB 05-01-2020 10:17 AM

No accusation here and no knowledge of this situation: But many people in jobs that rely heavily on tips do not report ALL of their income for tax purposes. (There's a surprise!)

That may save when it comes to paying taxes but doesn't help when something like a stimulus check is based on the income reported on the tax return. That is an example of "gaming the system" that didn't work out.

Again, I do not know what applies in this situation.

Hillcountry 05-01-2020 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 333682)
No accusation here and no knowledge of this situation: But many people in jobs that rely heavily on tips do not report ALL of their income for tax purposes. (There's a surprise!)

That may save when it comes to paying taxes but doesn't help when something like a stimulus check is based on the income reported on the tax return. That is an example of "gaming the system" that didn't work out.

Again, I do not know what applies in this situation.

Absolutely! I do believe tips are a huge part of income in many professions.
I usually give my dog groomer$20-$25 for a $45 grooming...I have heard over the years that women tip generously for salon work as well. I always tip waitresses well more than 20%. I don’t know what my daughters tip “income” was but I agree with your comments.

Flylady 05-01-2020 11:45 AM

Iowa unemployment
 
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Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 333625)
We can only hope so! How can we expect to get back on track if a person benefits more by staying home rather than returning to work??? 🙄 Uh duh..... let me think....that’s a tough one!

Do not get confused. The majority of intended "victims" in Iowa are people who work in the large corporate meat processing plants. Plants that have had large outbreaks of C-19. The same plants where the President using the wartime Executive Powers ordered the plants to reopen. Is it a coincidence that the majority of plant line workers are immigrants?

tis 05-01-2020 12:12 PM

Hill, I read somebody took the money but didn't need it so donated it to one of his causes. Why shouldn't that go to somebody like your daughter who really needs it? So annoying.

Sue Doe-Nym 05-01-2020 12:48 PM

You can’t take my $600 away....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flylady (Post 333698)
Do not get confused. The majority of intended "victims" in Iowa are people who work in the large corporate meat processing plants. Plants that have had large outbreaks of C-19. The same plants where the President using the wartime Executive Powers ordered the plants to reopen. Is it a coincidence that the majority of plant line workers are immigrants?

Flylady, without even looking I guessed we might have a “left coaster” responding. I am not confused at all, and was not referring to the Iowa meat plants specifically, but to the unemployment compensation situation as a whole and how it’s prone to abuse. It’s unnecessary to drag politics into every discussion.

Hillcountry 05-01-2020 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 333704)
Hill, I read somebody took the money but didn't need it so donated it to one of his causes. Why shouldn't that go to somebody like your daughter who really needs it? So annoying.

Thanks! Govt “programs” sometimes do not go to help the ones that need it most. I also have read where these stimulus “loans” have been taken by large, organizations that are flush with cash already...don’t know what the answer is and doubt few do.

Hillcountry 05-01-2020 01:51 PM

I have been following a local pizza place on FB that has been closed after trying take out early on.
Initially, the owner said May 1st would be his new opening for take out date.
I messaged him earlier today as we were going to order food tonight.

Here is his message:

”WE ARE TRYING TO REOPEN BUT I’M STRUGGLING TO GET EMPLOYEES BACK IN HERE. THEY ARE MAKING DOUBLE ON UNEMPLOYMENT WHAT THEY NORMALLY WERE. IT’S A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM”

So sad and not a good thing for reopening the economy. Serious mistakes Have been made that may well be the last nail in the coffin for small business.

FlyingScot 05-02-2020 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 333704)
Hill, I read somebody took the money but didn't need it so donated it to one of his causes. Why shouldn't that go to somebody like your daughter who really needs it? So annoying.

I agree that people like Hill's daughter should be getting more, and some $1200 recipients less. But maybe his "cause" was a food bank that has seen demand double over the past few weeks because so many hairdressers, waiters, and others are out of work? That would have been a much better use of the money that sending it back or refusing it. Food banks and pantries are especially hard hit now, not only are more people in need, but donations of food are drying up.

JEEPONLY 05-03-2020 05:11 AM

Has anything really changed?
 
When I was in high school, I worked as a delivery boy for a corner-store pharmacy- way before CVS/Rite Aid/Walmart (you get it). This was in a city with a population of today's Manchester, but higher population density.

The owner was a great guy- young and business minded.

We delivered to MANY welfare recipients (some addresses were on slummy streets, others were in actual ghettos). I can remember going to some of these places having back-yard beer parties/plenty of cigarette smoking/and other!

To be fair, some addresses were in different type neighborhoods and deliveries were to disabled people.

I remember hearing a conversation he (the owner) once had with another adult. The other asked him why he encouraged welfare.

His response: They pay full price, and they pay on time!

Flylady 05-03-2020 12:37 PM

Unemployment ....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 333718)
I have been following a local pizza place on FB that has been closed after trying take out early on.
Initially, the owner said May 1st would be his new opening for take out date.
I messaged him earlier today as we were going to order food tonight.

Here is his message:

”WE ARE TRYING TO REOPEN BUT I’M STRUGGLING TO GET EMPLOYEES BACK IN HERE. THEY ARE MAKING DOUBLE ON UNEMPLOYMENT WHAT THEY NORMALLY WERE. IT’S A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM”

So sad and not a good thing for reopening the economy. Serious mistakes Have been made that may well be the last nail in the coffin for small business.

Each state has different laws regarding unemployment. In CA. if you are called back by your employer and do not go...your unemployment stops! If the call back has less hours than you originally had, then unemployment will make up the different of the reduction. The $600.00 from the Feds may or may not have any impact as the way benefits are calculated they in general would only cover you for about 60% to 70% of your normal wage.

Outdoorsman 05-03-2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 333834)
I agree that people like Hill's daughter should be getting more, and some $1200 recipients less. But maybe his "cause" was a food bank that has seen demand double over the past few weeks because so many hairdressers, waiters, and others are out of work? That would have been a much better use of the money that sending it back or refusing it. Food banks and pantries are especially hard hit now, not only are more people in need, but donations of food are drying up.

I honestly do not get this. Please educate me.

Everyone earning below 75K/yr received or will receive $1200 PLUS $500 per child.

SSI recipients that did not have to file in 2018/19 has or will received $1200.

Those unemployed are receiving an ADDITIONAL $600/wk. This is more money than they would be making if they stayed or went back to work.

Why are food banks so overrun?

I have passed by 3 different town food banks distributions over the last 3 weeks and the lines are longer than the food supply lasts! I honestly do not get it.

TiltonBB 05-04-2020 06:46 AM

Stimulus checks to foreigners
 
Keep paying your taxes! People in foreign countries need YOUR money!

“One day I just saw my account and I had 1,200 bucks without even requesting anything,” said a French citizen who completed a graduate program at University of Toledo in 2018. “I knew they were planning to give stimulus payments but I didn’t know when it was happening.”

The student left the U.S. in January 2019 and now lives in Zurich.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...workers-228974

Biggd 05-04-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 333891)
I honestly do not get this. Please educate me.

Everyone earning below 75K/yr received or will receive $1200 PLUS $500 per child.

SSI recipients that did not have to file in 2018/19 has or will received $1200.

Those unemployed are receiving an ADDITIONAL $600/wk. This is more money than they would be making if they stayed or went back to work.

Why are food banks so overrun?

I have passed by 3 different town food banks distributions over the last 3 weeks and the lines are longer than the food supply lasts! I honestly do not get it.

What don't you get? They live pay check to pay check. They have no money. Some people have not got that $1200 check yet and some others have not got unemployment money yet. Food is an essential item to survive. No one should go hungry.

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dickiej 05-04-2020 09:16 AM

Outdoorsman....please think about how serious this problem is for millions of Americans....they have no job, no money coming in, no savings (most Americans can not save...they barely get by as it is). They are caught up in the unemployment quagmire, still waiting for approval. They have no way to buy food, pay rent, pay utilities or even put fuel in their car. They are desperate and, in many cases, panic stricken. All this as a result of no fault of their own. Please show some compassion and count your blessings if you are healthy, have a roof over your head and food in your refrigerator.

garysanfran 05-04-2020 09:36 AM

I know way too many people...
 
With no, or little savings, and an income I would not find adequate. Several of them get hit with an unexpected $200 expense...Auto repair, failing appliance, etc. and they can't afford it. I have stepped in to help when I can but the demand could be (will be) endless. A blip in their life, like losing their minimum wage job, is devastating.

I would venture the guess that most people on this Forum are "relatively" well off financially...Probably retired with a 401K, IRA, SSI, savings, etc...Maybe a new Jet Ski?

A differing perspective than through one's own eyes.... may make one a bit more humble with one's own comfort.

Grant 05-04-2020 09:46 AM

Here's an example of how broken the system is: I just received a stimulus check for my mother, who died two years ago.

The check, made out to her, with my name and address listed as "c/o," even had "DCSD" (deceased) after her name.

Now I have to return it.

FlyingScot 05-04-2020 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 333891)
I honestly do not get this. Please educate me.

Everyone earning below 75K/yr received or will receive $1200 PLUS $500 per child.

SSI recipients that did not have to file in 2018/19 has or will received $1200.

Those unemployed are receiving an ADDITIONAL $600/wk. This is more money than they would be making if they stayed or went back to work.

Why are food banks so overrun?

I have passed by 3 different town food banks distributions over the last 3 weeks and the lines are longer than the food supply lasts! I honestly do not get it.

Food banks are overrun because their clientele lives paycheck to paycheck, with virtually nothing in the bank, if they even have a bank account. So when you say "will receive", that's a problem for those already on the edge. The Greater Boston Food Bank, just for example, has seen its daily demand double because of this.

Their donations are drying up because they get lots of free food from supermarkets and others that have excess. The empty shelves that we've seen are reflective of excess food in the food chain drying up. Also, shrinking incomes and stock portfolios leave many cash donors with less to give.

So they are squeezed at both ends. If you'd like to make a donation, here's a link: https://www.gbfb.org/

Sue Doe-Nym 05-04-2020 11:30 AM

A postscript to Dickiej’s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dickiej (Post 333942)
Outdoorsman....please think about how serious this problem is for millions of Americans....they have no job, no money coming in, no savings (most Americans can not save...they barely get by as it is). They are caught up in the unemployment quagmire, still waiting for approval. They have no way to buy food, pay rent, pay utilities or even put fuel in their car. They are desperate and, in many cases, panic stricken. All this as a result of no fault of their own. Please show some compassion and count your blessings if you are healthy, have a roof over your head and food in your refrigerator.

While you are counting your blessings, next time you’re shopping for food for your own family, why not stock up on some pasta, rice, canned goods and other staples for your local food bank? People are hurting, and whether or not they’ve mismanaged their finances and neglected to save for a rainy day, this is not the time for any of us to be critical. Be generous.

tis 05-04-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 333946)
Here's an example of how broken the system is: I just received a stimulus check for my mother, who died two years ago.

The check, made out to her, with my name and address listed as "c/o," even had "DCSD" (deceased) after her name.

Now I have to return it.


Now why doesn't that surprise me. And it just makes more work for you too.

Sue Doe-Nym 05-04-2020 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 333946)
Here's an example of how broken the system is: I just received a stimulus check for my mother, who died two years ago.

The check, made out to her, with my name and address listed as "c/o," even had "DCSD" (deceased) after her name.

Now I have to return it.

It’s difficult to realize that anyone, even someone immersed in bureaucracy, could be that brain dead when it comes to sending a check to a deceased person. Since I have too much time on my hands, I decided that perhaps that person didn’t understand what DCSD stood for. Here are some of the possibilities: Domestic Commission for Sexual Deviants, Democratic Committee on Senile Dementia, Dedicated Choreographers of Social Distancing, Deranged Candidate Seeking Delegates, and so on.

ApS 05-04-2020 05:02 PM

Checks Refused to Those Who Refuse to Return to Work...
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 333627)
It requires the company to report back to the state that the employee refuses to come back. Not a way to build employee/employer relations.

370 employees at Missouri pork plant tested positive for Wuhan virus. All were asymptomatic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-asymptomatic/

Biggd 05-04-2020 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 334013)
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370 employees at Missouri pork plant tested positive for Wuhan virus. All were asymptomatic.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-asymptomatic/

Why do you just litter these threads with news feeds we can all read elsewhere online? Don't you have any original thoughts of your own that you would like to share?

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ApS 05-05-2020 01:41 PM

It's Not Nothing...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 334014)
Why do you just litter these threads with news feeds we can all read elsewhere online? Don't you have any original thoughts of your own that you would like to share?

If you read up-thread, the US food supply is becoming increasingly imperiled.

I wish I could say it's an original thought, but this virus could fundamentally alter this country's future and put China ascendant.

China's influence has already crept into the US media, and is increasingly funding and inserting media correspondents. Note the reluctance to mention China and coronavirus in the same news story.

Corruption by China has even reached Congress!

Congress' corruption may lead to November's mail-in ballots, affecting mostly "swing states" and their electoral votes.

https://dbdailyupdate.com/index.php/...se-government/

VitaBene 05-05-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 333967)
While you are counting your blessings, next time you’re shopping for food for your own family, why not stock up on some pasta, rice, canned goods and other staples for your local food bank? People are hurting, and whether or not they’ve mismanaged their finances and neglected to save for a rainy day, this is not the time for any of us to be critical. Be generous.

Heath's used to have bags setup that you could buy at checkout and then they went to the food bank. I haven't noticed them recently.

VitaBene 05-05-2020 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 333957)
Food banks are overrun because their clientele lives paycheck to paycheck, with virtually nothing in the bank, if they even have a bank account. So when you say "will receive", that's a problem for those already on the edge. The Greater Boston Food Bank, just for example, has seen its daily demand double because of this.

Their donations are drying up because they get lots of free food from supermarkets and others that have excess. The empty shelves that we've seen are reflective of excess food in the food chain drying up. Also, shrinking incomes and stock portfolios leave many cash donors with less to give.

So they are squeezed at both ends. If you'd like to make a donation, here's a link: https://www.gbfb.org/

Thank you. I went to their site, I wish they had a paypal option. I find it to be more secure and easier. There is a food pantry in Moultonborough that I just donated to https://www.foodpantries.org/ci/nh-moultonborough

Sue Doe-Nym 05-05-2020 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 334069)
Heath's used to have bags setup that you could buy at checkout and then they went to the food bank. I haven't noticed them recently.

My recollection is that the food bags at Heath’s were available during the various holidays such as Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc. That’s a good idea, but I would rather make my own selections.

Biggd 05-05-2020 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 334065)
If you read up-thread, the US food supply is becoming increasingly imperiled.

I wish I could say it's an original thought, but this virus could fundamentally alter this country's future and put China ascendant.

China's influence has already crept into the US media, and is increasingly funding and inserting media correspondents. Note the reluctance to mention China and coronavirus in the same news story.

Corruption by China has even reached Congress!

Congress' corruption may lead to November's mail-in ballots, affecting mostly "swing states" and their electoral votes.

https://dbdailyupdate.com/index.php/...se-government/

Wrong answer! It should have been, "because I have I have nothing better to do". :D

Outdoorsman 05-05-2020 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 333967)
While you are counting your blessings, next time you’re shopping for food for your own family, why not stock up on some pasta, rice, canned goods and other staples for your local food bank? People are hurting, and whether or not they’ve mismanaged their finances and neglected to save for a rainy day, this is not the time for any of us to be critical. Be generous.

That seems incredibility rude. Counting my blessings? That has no bearing on my prior question!

Had you seen my prior non-covid posts, you would know that I volunteer AND I donate to organizations. Please don't try to make me look like I hold myself "above" others!


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