Well I know I never called anyone a "Thug" or a "Criminal", or accused them of salacious or unsavory actions though. :D

That doesn't matter to you though I'm sure. ;)

Pm
 

Sunset, remember when I sent you the nice PMs because you were concerned about my fitness (due to my posting about restaurants)? Were they threatening or thuggish??

I am still waiting for the answer but will not lose any sleep over it.

I did get your PM but on many levels meeting anonymous men to work out with strikes me as unwise and is not my cup of tea. I'm sure your intentions are good. And no more PM's please.

I'm assuming Don is the moderator. While I can't speak for the sender, I give my permission to confirm or publish the PM. And the apology is accepted aforehand.

And I hope the moderator will also put an end to all the nonsensible speculation that those SL supporters who do post here must all be one person under different names. There are indeed more than one of us. As you'll see soon enough.

I had intended for the last one to be my last post here, but your calling me a liar dragged me back for one final message. Funny how all those so incensed when a threat-monger was called a "thug" have no problem with your accusations.

So now I'm outta here. You guys win. Please don't badger or insult me and force me to join back in. I had earlier tried to get some neighbors to join in these threads and provide some balance and they warned me against it. They said the risks of butting heads with the group of thugs (their words then, mine now) that frequents this forum was not worth it, and that besides putting myself in harm's way, all my logic would just be wasted. They were so right.

The whole idea of the very bunch of scofflaws sitting around and planning a "compromise" amongst themselves to redact a law that was aimed at them is laughable, and could only be made to appear logical in a place like this. This SL section of this forum is just another GFBL site like Offshoreonly, Speedwake, et al, except those sites seem to be quite a bit less tolerant of the stuff that is allowed here. People can't brag about their law-breaking escapades, threaten, and organize harassment efforts on those sites.

Now you can proceed to discuss amongst yourselves, with no opposition, how the SL law is not doing anything...but needs to be eliminated to clean up our statues. I'm sure our legislators are all going to make their decisions based on what this group recommends. Ya right.

Bye.

Bye.. :rolleye2::rolleye2:

I guess the types of gym you frequent are different than the one I do- The Fitness Edge in Meredith.

For the others that may be interested, this is what I sent (and when I temporarily changed my signature to Eatebene, always flying the dinner being served banner)to ElC early on in the SL debate this summer:

So you decided to throw your two cents in on a boat thread by essentially calling my fitness into question because I post about restaurants from time to time. I responded, but alas, no comment back from you. I let it sit for a few days before I resorted to a PM, but I am really not surprised because it is obvious you are a troll also.

My offer stands- let me know when you want to work out with me.

Thanks to you and TB for the new nickname and signature ideas, BTW I liked it so much that I adopted it.

Just so you know, this week was low key from a restaurant standpoint- we ate in mostly but we did try the North Shore drive-in.

Bye Bye EL , whoever you are:D

Eclchase,

I choose to believe that everyone that posts here individually and is not a multi-nicker.

It is too bad that you chose to stop posting (bet you still be reading) but if you contributed anything to this forum outside of a debate on the SL, then I would say you would be missed. I find it laughable that you don't know that Don is the Owner and Admin of this site. How could you miss this thread http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ead.php?t=8386if you cared at all about this place?

Your delusional lumping of SL opponents first as one type of boat owner and then some group of thugs and scofflaws showed me that regardless of whatever argument was presented to you, you were not listening.

Here is what I think- there will be a speed limit on this lake, it may very well be as it stands. It will hardly matter to any of us "thugs" due to the types of boats we own or how we boat. It will rarely be enforced or will be enforced as inconsistently as the the two major rules that the "scofflaws" want to see enforced- the 150' rule and stand on, give way.

Good day

And then you wrote

While we discuss the compromise for the sake of discussion, you are the one who acted as if you could set the law if we agreed to your idea. We have no such delusions.

Oh me oh my I am going to lose sleep over this one... :laugh:

What bothers me, (not really though) is that elchase never listened to anyone on this site. He flat out refused to believe that a bunch of bowrider owners would have such a strong opinion against this law. It became quite comical to read his posts constantly calling us all GFBL owners. Whether or not he was blind or just skimmed the posts is a mystery to me. How many times do I or others have to say it?
It must be so hard for him to accept that fact that the majority of SL opponents do not even own boats that fit the category GFBL. :laugh: It irks him so much that he continually ignored that FACT and classified everyone who had an opinion that was contrary to his as GFBL boaters. Too funny. :laugh: I mean seriously right up until the bitter end, his last post even. I'll quote it directly:

"The whole idea of the very bunch of scofflaws sitting around and planning a "compromise" amongst themselves to redact a law that was aimed at them is laughable,"

That has to be my favorite all time winnipesaukee.com quote. :laugh:

Yes we scofflaws are planning a compromise so we can travel at 47MPH instead of 45MPH. :laugh: Hysterical.

Thanks for the entertainment. I can't wait to see what your new screen name will be this time around. :laugh:

ROTFLMAO!!!! :emb::laugh:

HN, I don't think that he was lying about the PM. He had posted earlier that he wondered how many of of the forum members were convicted felons. Looks like he recieved answers to his question in a PM. Of course I was not privvy to the contents of the PM, but based on what elchase wrote, it does not sound a bit threatening to me.

Signed,
Non-convicted non-felon. ;)

While I agree with you the PM was most likely not intended to be threatening in any way..... (that is if it happened) No matter how or who sent the PM it would have been twisted to form his argument...

No worries.. He has parted ways and I think we should be thankful and get back on track.

I was hoping through all the retoric we all could still try to come up with a defination of minimum planing speed that would be agreed as safe minimum planing speed.

Good bye?
 

Hmm,

I guess this means Elchase and I won’t be boating together anytime soon.

I can’t believe I am typing this but…I am a little sad to see him go. He did make the speed limit forums entertaining in spite of the fact I disagreed with almost every statement he ever made.

Good Advice OCD
 

I have it on good word that these threads are on shaky ground at best. I will shoulder a heavy burden of that blame. I am going to do my best to stay on topic and suggest we all do the same. I am going to try and turn over a new leaf and not let the elchase's of the world get under my skin.

OCD you seem to have reasonably good judgment and always do a good job trying to refocus the discussion. Perhaps you could unofficially moderate the discussion as you kind of had been. Perhaps you could blow the whistle so to speak and redirect the discussion when you see it straying off topic? Not to burden you or anything. :laugh:


HN

Been trying to do that all along... But things get sidetracked so easily when things get personal.

This is a heated debate to begin with so as long as you don't read into peoples posts and take them at face value then "normally" things do not get out of hand. There are those that thrive on causing issues and may also have an agenda. The best thing that can happen for the speed limit supporters is to have the discussions shut down.

Right now there is no "specific data" to support their claims of a better lake. This is what the 2 year trial period was supposed to determine. Thus far all it has shown was there was not a speeding problem on the lake before or after the limits and they are not warrented. If this is continously brought to light and more and more people are shown to be in support of discontinuing the limits it hurts their case.

If you read back on all the past threads from 2 years ago many people tried this same tactic and succeeded in helping to shut them down.

I think if we all stay on topic and discuss things civilly as many supporters have we actually may be able to work something out, maybe even a compromise.

I do want to recognize a few supporters that although may have been taken down the wrong path, from time to time as we all have, they have really stayed on topic and have been a pleasure to discuss these issues with over the past 2 months.

Now hold onto your hats guys. First off Sunset (no secret he has done very well to stay on topic and express his opinions in a rational and objective manner)
Bear Islander!!! and if you go look back APS has even been doing a great job.

Although I may not agree with them they have all done well in stating their cases.

Great work.. Now lets all go get a 12 pack and watch the PATS Kick A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These threads aren't nearly as exciting or contentious as the restaurant threads are :laugh:

At any rate, I'll stick to watching from the sidelines from here on out. No need to get people in a tizzy, and time to give Don some rest :D But I will let you know if I locate chicken parmesan that has two chicken breasts instead of just one. :rolleye2:


Let's just stick to actual boating, perhaps that will not cause such a stir.

Last time I drank a 12 pack was at my high school graduation. It's also the last time I got sick. That was 37 years ago.

After watching this game I am easily going to be 12 deep.. LOL

Well I hope you were still concious to see a great win.:laugh:
And to keep on topic, I feel the need for speed.:emb:

All good here! and what a Great win... It wasn't pretty but it got the job done!

I do as well.... Safe Speed though...