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VitaBene 08-26-2014 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ghfromaltonbay (Post 232040)
T It seems the driver preferred being out in the middle of the channel rather than staying closer to the western shore where the traffic is much lighter.
That is another whole problem. I have seen some real bad boating over the summer. I have stopped getting mad when someone does something dumb, just not worth the aggravation (like the 28' Formula that plowed by me in the graveyard Sunday- I was at no wake at the narrowest point!)

Rusty 08-26-2014 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232043)
That is another whole problem. I have seen some real bad boating over the summer. I have stopped getting mad when someone does something dumb, just not worth the aggravation (like the 28' Formula that plowed by me in the graveyard Sunday- I was at no wake at the narrowest point!)
Can't see you not getting mad Vita. Mellowing a bit are ya?

Orion 08-26-2014 01:19 PM
Yep, same here
 
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232043)
That is another whole problem. I have seen some real bad boating over the summer. I have stopped getting mad when someone does something dumb, just not worth the aggravation (like the 28' Formula that plowed by me in the graveyard Sunday- I was at no wake at the narrowest point!)
I had the exact same thing happen to me there two weeks ago. I slowed to the required no-wake speed in my 18' open-bow fishing boat while some clown in a ~25'-er plowed past me at max wake speed, nearly swamping my boat. He hit all three points: stupid, illegal, and inconsiderate.:mad:

VitaBene 08-26-2014 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 232046)
Can't see you not getting mad Vita. Mellowing a bit are ya?
Yep, a little:) I still have a low tolerance for BS though.

depasseg 08-26-2014 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ghfromaltonbay (Post 232040)
The scenario you cite is exactly what I observed with the guy towing 5 kids who looked like pre-teens and younger. When a few flew off they wound up scattered across the bay in front of Sandy Point. It took the driver some time to go back and pick up 3 or 4 kids who were more than 150 feet apart. If anyone was coming around Sandy Point they would not have had a lot of time to react to seeing small heads bobbing in the drink. It seems the driver preferred being out in the middle of the channel rather than staying closer to the western shore where the traffic is much lighter. Must be related to the slalom skier down this way who always likes to drop her ski near the mouth of Sandy Point cove instead of near the western shoreline.
How would more spotters or less tubers affect the inattentive driver coming at them? We've already determined anyone is allowed to be in the water, why does it matter if you get there from a tube, boat, or shore? If we are going to change a law, we first have to figure out the problem we need to solve.

VitaBene 08-27-2014 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by depasseg (Post 232101)
How would more spotters or less tubers affect the inattentive driver coming at them? We've already determined anyone is allowed to be in the water, why does it matter if you get there from a tube, boat, or shore? If we are going to change a law, we first have to figure out the problem we need to solve.
Agreed- the onus is on the boat operator (where it belongs). Swimmers are like pedestrians in a crosswalk- they have the right of way, but should take actions and make decisions to make sure they can still cross safely. Being right sometimes means being dead.

Sue Doe-Nym 08-27-2014 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232043)
That is another whole problem. I have seen some real bad boating over the summer. I have stopped getting mad when someone does something dumb, just not worth the aggravation (like the 28' Formula that plowed by me in the graveyard Sunday- I was at no wake at the narrowest point!)
If there was nothing within 150' of you, why were you going so slowly?

VitaBene 09-01-2014 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym (Post 232117)
If there was nothing within 150' of you, why were you going so slowly?
It is impossible to run through the graveyard above no wake speed if another boat is passing you coming from the other direction.

The Formula was within 10-15' when it passed (plowed) on my port side. Had the operator planned and throttled back some, he could have stayed on plane/waited until I was through before he even entered (there is plenty of visibility there- I can usually adjust my speed to allow an oncoming vessel time to make it through).

On another note, I saw the MP having a field day in Moultonborough this weekend with 150' rule violations. They were all over the channel in the Ambrose Cove/ Suissevale area.

tis 09-01-2014 08:22 AM
We came back from Moultonboro yesterday and about 15 boats (which seemed to be all together) went flying past us about 20 feet from us. We were going slow so got rocked. Wonder if they eventually got stopped. They seemed to have no clue.

Dave R 09-02-2014 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232437)

On another note, I saw the MP having a field day in Moultonborough this weekend with 150' rule violations. They were all over the channel in the Ambrose Cove/ Suissevale area.
I hate it when they, or any other boat operators, position themselves near the center of the "channel", basically forcing people to slow to headway speed for no real reason. There is plenty of room for boats to pass on-plane there, if they stay near the edge of the "channel".

Sue Doe-Nym 09-02-2014 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232437)
It is impossible to run through the graveyard above no wake speed if another boat is passing you coming from the other direction.

The Formula was within 10-15' when it passed (plowed) on my port side. Had the operator planned and throttled back some, he could have stayed on plane/waited until I was through before he even entered (there is plenty of visibility there- I can usually adjust my speed to allow an oncoming vessel time to make it through).

On another note, I saw the MP having a field day in Moultonborough this weekend with 150' rule violations. They were all over the channel in the Ambrose Cove/ Suissevale area.
Thanks for the clarification, I mistakenly thought that you had been passed by someone going the same direction that you were.

Chaselady 09-02-2014 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232437)
It is impossible to run through the graveyard above no wake speed if another boat is passing you coming from the other direction.

The Formula was within 10-15' when it passed (plowed) on my port side. Had the operator planned and throttled back some, he could have stayed on plane/waited until I was through before he even entered (there is plenty of visibility there- I can usually adjust my speed to allow an oncoming vessel time to make it through).

On another note, I saw the MP having a field day in Moultonborough this weekend with 150' rule violations. They were all over the channel in the Ambrose Cove/ Suissevale area.
Isn't easier to just go between Melvin and Chase, rather than the Graveyard?

tis 09-02-2014 12:32 PM
I agree with you Chaselady, it is.

upthesaukee 09-02-2014 04:28 PM
I like going through the Graveyard, but only if there are no other boats between Alton Bay and Lee's Mill. Otherwise, I go around by Chase Is. :)

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VitaBene 09-02-2014 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaselady (Post 232533)
Isn't easier to just go between Melvin and Chase, rather than the Graveyard?
I do sometimes. This time I thought I had it timed right, and after that other thread about the rocks...:)

We had a great weekend boating, saw a lot of MP sat and sun but only one monday from lees mill to Meredith and back. It got real quiet on the lake later in the day. So much that we idled in from Moultonborough Bay to Ambrose Cove and only were passed twice!

Orion 09-02-2014 09:38 PM
Why?
 
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Originally Posted by Chaselady (Post 232533)
Isn't easier to just go between Melvin and Chase, rather than the Graveyard?
It's one of the best-marked channels on the Lake, and the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Just stay between the black and red and you'll be perfectly fine and significantly cut the time and gas used to otherwise detour around Melvin.

Of course, you could get real daring and shortcut via the route west of Pistol and Spectacle.......but I wouldn't recommend it. ;) I've personally witnessed two boats wreck their drives going the wrong way through there.

4Fun 09-03-2014 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Orion (Post 232586)
It's one of the best-marked channels on the Lake, and the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Just stay between the black and red and you'll be perfectly fine and significantly cut the time and gas used to otherwise detour around Melvin.

Of course, you could get real daring and shortcut via the route west of Pistol and Spectacle.......but I wouldn't recommend it. ;) I've personally witnessed two boats wreck their drives going the wrong way through there.

The Pistol Island route is fun to take although probably slower over all. It just doesent look like you should go between FL81 and Pistol especially with the Red just west of it.

Dave R 09-04-2014 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 4Fun (Post 232622)
The Pistol Island route is fun to take although probably slower over all. It just doesent look like you should go between FL81 and Pistol especially with the Red just west of it.
I take that route often. The only issue I've ever had was the first time when I did not realize that the black tops and red tops swap sides (relative to the boat) on either side of pistol. I had a spare prop on board and fixed the damaged prop myself when I got home.

bigtuna 09-10-2014 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ghfromaltonbay (Post 229778)
The Marine Patrol has been much less visible in Alton Bay this summer compared to past years. The week after July 4th we hardly saw the Marine Patrol and there was plenty for them to do. One boater was out every afternoon towing 5 kids with a beige ski boat, 3 on a Big Mabel and 2 on either side on red zip sleds. They spent almost 2 hours each afternoon going from the Mt. Washington dock past Sandy Point, and many of us on shore kept saying "Where is the Marine Patrol?". He had 2 "observers" with him in the boat. Don't know if this clown is still in the area. There are several underage (14 and 15) kids using their parents' jet skis as well. These kids are small for their age, and yet the Marine Patrol never seems to be around when they are buzzing around Sandy Point on the weekends.
Thats because law enforcement typically intervenes after a crime has been committed. The fact is Marine patrol is usually bored to tears and pulling someone over creates a diversion to the tedious nature of there job.

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thinkxingu 09-13-2014 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 232577)
I do sometimes. This time I thought I had it timed right, and after that other thread about the rocks...:)

We had a great weekend boating, saw a lot of MP sat and sun but only one monday from lees mill to Meredith and back. It got real quiet on the lake later in the day. So much that we idled in from Moultonborough Bay to Ambrose Cove and only were passed twice!
Hi! Can you tell me approximately how long it took you to get from Lee's Mills to Meredith and the approximate speed you traveled? I'm debating on keeping my pontoon in Hanson Cove or Long Island and one of the deciding factors is length of time to the main lake. Thanks!

VitaBene 09-14-2014 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 233293)
Hi! Can you tell me approximately how long it took you to get from Lee's Mills to Meredith and the approximate speed you traveled? I'm debating on keeping my pontoon in Hanson Cove or Long Island and one of the deciding factors is length of time to the main lake. Thanks!
I know the Crests are nice boats, I am guessing 24 or so mph? If so, Long Island if you want to run b to Meredith or Wolfeboro. We boat out of Moultonborough Bay and near Hanson. I would also be happy to stay in that area andventure out on good days to far points. It is a tough choice!

topwater 09-14-2014 11:19 PM
When there were no speed limits, I went from the last no-wake in Lee's to Meredith Docks in 19 minutes. Yes, just a slight ripple, late in the season and I know all the markers by heart. No boat traffic and this was done on a stop watch.:):cheers:

gillygirl 09-15-2014 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 233293)
Hi! Can you tell me approximately how long it took you to get from Lee's Mills to Meredith and the approximate speed you traveled? I'm debating on keeping my pontoon in Hanson Cove or Long Island and one of the deciding factors is length of time to the main lake. Thanks!
It took us 45 minutes to get from Hanson's Cove to Center Harbor. Conditions were fairly calm, but the sun may have slowed us down a bit as we headed toward Center Harbor.


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