So why all the hubbub about getting tested?... seems like a waste of time.

Dan

See 'Swiss Cheese Defense' - post 120.

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LOL.....I think maybe she left her trousers in the dryer too long! What a sight! 😂

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Is that Marie Callendar advertising her X-mas chocolate pies???:D:D:D

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I remember those drills and the weekly air raid siren tests! Used to scare the hell out of everyone!

Dan

Just as todays media continues to scare the hell out of most!

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How about the fallout shelters in people’s back yards? Blackout curtains?

You people slay me: figuratively and literally.

Minimizing gov't warnings in the face of a pandemic: hello, dunce cap.

Yup....and the fallout shelter signs on almost every large brick building and school basement... scary times for sure!

Dan

Funnier would be to rewind a few months for you posting or thanking others with predictions that this will blow over by Easter

And so....when we mention to members of the younger generations how things were, and how so many have sacrificed over the years, we are apt to receive an eye roll or shrug for the effort. The history that you and I are talking about is not that ancient.

That's not quite true. It would eventually burn itself out. As did pandemics in past history. But the death toll would be very high and it could take 5, 10 years.

The Nikita Kruschchev era...”we will bury your children” :(

No, what he said is " ...... We will bury you!" without saying anything about "your children."

To get more context and history ...... google "We will bury you!"-Wikipedia ...... and it has a good, one page history on it and shows the full paragraph quote that ends with ..... We will bury you!

That quote got tons of tv-time on the three tv-news networks during the October-1962 Cuban missile crisis. Nikita Khrushchev said it on Sunday, November 18, 1956 in Moscow at the Polish Embassy after signing a Moscow-Warsaw joint declaration.

Addressing the Western Bloc at the Polish Embassy in Moscow, Khrushchev said to them: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you whether or not we exist. If you don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!" .... spoken in Russian and translated to English by Khrushchev's translator

The speech prompted the envoys from the twelve NATO nations: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom, and the United States, plus non-NATO member, Israel, to all get up and leave the room.

Later on, at the National Press Club, Washington D.C., September 16, 1959 in response to a question, Khrushchev explained: "The expression I used was distorted, and on purpose, because what was meant was not the physical burial of any people but the historical force of development. It is well known that at the present time no one social or economic system is dominant throughout the world, but that there are different systems, social systems in different countries. And those systems change. ...... "

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you ...... and maybe click on the 'shoe-banging incident' at bottom of page, as well.

Growing up, I heard and saw the inter-program tv short with Nikita Khrushchev pounding out that "We will bury you!" line probably hundreds of times and now in 2020, I sometimes will shout that to the two opponents on the other side of the net, at the start of a pickleball game ........ We will bury you! ..... ha-ha-ha. .... :D ..... As a 10-11 year old we would point our finger at another kid and shout "We will bury you!" with a deep threatening voice while playing different sports like volley ball, or softball, at school or at summer camp .... :D ..... ha-ha-ha

I recall him (in person on TV) saying “your children” screw wiki-pedo and screw google while you’re at it.

I trust no one at this point

Uh yeah....that’s a brilliant comparison! Just like firefighters wear fire resistant gear to do their jobs but you only wear an oven mitt when you take a baking sheet out of the oven. Maybe you should stop wearing an oven mitt too! It’s all about the level of risk.


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Interesting that you trust your memory of over 60 years ago more than the hundreds of independently written documents of that speech.

Also interesting is that the translation is the subject of debate--not on "you" vs "your children", but on the specific threat against "you". Here's a great article that describes the controversy. https://medium.com/exploring-history...3-4a285162e2b9

I don't know why I have such a vivid memory of the "I will bury your children"
version, but I do...whatever...:rolleye2: I'm sticking with my version :D

I was 100% sure I saw the “greatest football game ever played” when I was in California visiting friends. I remember the room, my friends, the small black and white TV as well as Ameche into the end zone for the Colts win. I told this story many times over the years. This year, while discussing this again, I realized it was impossible for me to have been in CA in 1958 when the game was played.

I was really stunned about this memory lapse.

Despite my “superb memory” I realized that facts do matter. No matter how much we may wish otherwise.

Mandela Effect?

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Bury You
 

How about from the CIA Library, then?
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingr...00040087-1.pdf

Lol...I love you guys wasting your time trying to make me agree with you when in fact, I could give a ****** what you say...sheesh.:laugh:

Claim.
Refutation of claim with evidence.
Rejection of evidence.
Additional evidence.
Dismissal of topic.

Define: perfect illustration of 2020 discourse.

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No need for you to change on anybody else's account. But it is fascinating the way you are able to deny things that appear to be undeniable fact.

Mandela Effect
 

..... Nov 4, 1956: Budapest invaded by Soviet tanks!
 

You really need to consider that Khrushchev said 'We will bury you' on Nov 26, 1956, and the Soviet Union had just invaded Budapest, Hungary on Nov 4, 1956 to put a halt to their Hungary Revolt for freedom from communism.

The Hungary revolt from communist rule by the the Soviet Union took place from October 23, 1956 to November 10, 1956, with the Soviet troops invading on November 4.

So, with First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev, age 60, addressing the western nations at the Polish Embassy in Moscow on Sunday, November 26, he no doubt wanted to DOUBLE DOWN, and project a strong-man, tough guy image to the world, and talk very intimidating ...... with that 'We will bury you' comment. It ran on American tv for something like ten years or so with him beating out that line, frequently shown on Saturday morning tv as a 30-second, public service announcement, between the Howdy Doody show and the Three Stooges, back in 1959-60-61-62. For kids watching it like myself, it became like a comedy act ..... We will bury you! ..... nyuck, nyuck, nyuk ...... no, we will bury you, first! ... no, we will bury you! .... :laugh:

As an 11-year old kid walking out to a school/camp sports game period, I recall getting into shouting matches with other kids on the other team, especially at summer camp what with color war, the Grays vs the Greens. Chanting, shouting, and group songs were a big part of that color war team spirit. So therefore, shout it loud: "We will bury you! ..... no, we will bury you! .....no, we will bury you! ..... no, we will bury you! ..... out-shouting the other team ..... until a camp counselor would show up and yell ..... 'Will Everyone puh-leeeeeze Shut-Up! ...... everyone just be quiet and knock it off, or I'll send you all back to your cabin and make you do a graded, cabin clean-up!"

..... ho-ho-ho-ha-ha-ha ....... nyuck - nyuck - nyuck ...... :D:laugh:

"Elementary, my dear Watson.":)

Jeep copying what I said and then Flying given cred just reminded me of this. What an awesome sketch! https://youtu.be/k1tsGGz-Qw0

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Now that is funny. Who will get “credit” for our being “off topic.” :)

You must be high on potenuse.

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Remember...
 

"You dirty rat, you killed my brudda!"

We're all in this together!

You didn't listen to the recent political campaigns (2 years)? Happened all over the place.

Here's a Barry Goldwater for President, from 1964, political tv advertisement with Nikita Khrushchev, age 60?, speaking very aggressively and defiantly in Russian at the Unites Nations, or somewhere, shouting out: "We will bury you" ...... and ...... "Your children will be communists" ..... visually intertwined with American children walking into a classroom to salute the Flag.

www.youtube/watch?v=0wJHg9UBNPE .... "A classic presidential campaign advertisement for Barry Goldwater featuring Nikita Khrushchev..."

(Oh well, despite my repeated tries, cannot get this You Tube link to work here?)

November 3, 1964 presidential election results:

Lyndon Johnson, age 56, got 486-electoral votes, 61.7% of the popular vote with 43.127 million votes.

Barry Goldwater, age 55, got 52-electoral votes, 38.5% of the popular vote with 27.175 million votes.

Only six of the 50-states: South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Arizona (Goldwater's home state where he was a senator) went with "AU-H2O in 64" ... a real bumper-sticker ...... too bad for Senator Barry Goldwater ..... who was actually a very good tennis player and went on to become something of a tennis star in the U.S Senate.

I agree, and apparently Hill does too, since he thanked you, that his ability to deny things that seem to be undeniable is very common. It's still fascinating to me. I'm not able to summon this ability in myself.

Boring
 

"It's still fascinating to me."

Yeah but nobody else...give it a rest will ya.

Dan

1079 new cases reported today 12/7/2020 (yesterday). 12 single day deaths.
WMUR News.

Governor Sununu was off in the estimates by a couple weeks.

Over 1,000 new daily cases.

Thanksgiving spike?

Christmas coming up.