Boosters
 

New research from Denmark and the UK this week demonstrates that mRNA boosters -- like Moderna's and Pfizer's -- offer significant protection against the new omicron variant of COVID-19. However, data from the UK on Friday indicates that booster protection starts to decrease notably after 10 weeks.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...edgdhp&pc=U531

It ain't over till its over
 

What a difference a month makes. Latest numbers in Florida are 17,825/day or 83 per 100,000. That is a 1380% increase in cases per 100K in the past month and FL has surpassed MI and MN, pervious targets of ridicule. Once all is over, the analysis on the effectiveness of lockdowns, masks and vaccinations will be reported. The important metrics will be hospitalizations, deaths and long term health issues. Till then, lots of experimentation going on. Too early to "learn" from other's short-term results.

From: 11/27

There is no question of an increase in cases and the vast majority of the hospitalization and deaths are in the unvaccinated. There are few valid reasons not to be vaccinated.

BUT, as I see it, most of the other daily statistics are confusing and misleading. Not necessarily intentionally. First, testing by self kits, testing in state, pharmacy facilities is way up. Even PCR self testing is available. What we never did well and don’t really do well now is community surveillance which would give real actionable numbers. A friend might say, cases increased by 25,000 yesterday in FL, which is where I am. But the number is essentially meaningless. Because reporting is irregular, you can’t really even accurately compare it to yesterday. And NH is no better.

Rant over except for one tiny political aside. “No one could have seen this coming” is total nonsense. And that from today’s White House. Actually, anyone who cared could have seen this coming. Granted that in todays climate it might have made no difference.

The not so subtle difference from this time last year is we are talking about cases and not deaths as a metric, that's a good thing.

"If you have a much larger number of individual cases, the fact that you have so many more cases might actually obviate the effect of it being less severe," Fauci said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...days-rcna10094

Dr. Fauci Says This Is When the Omicron Wave Will Peak.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=1

When Three Shots Are Not Enough -Ny Times, Jan 3
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/us...d-vaccine.html ...... "When Three Shots Are Not Enough" ..... https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21/middl...ntl/index.html ..... "Israel begins fourth Covid-19 dose vaccine ..."

"Those eligible for the fourth dose can receive it provided at least four months have passed since the third dose, it said. In Israel, almost all vaccinated citizens have received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine."

I got my third vaccination on about Sept 10, about four months ago, and after four months the effectiveness supposedly starts to decrease? ... :eek:

You gotta read all the email comments, down the bottom on this NY Times report.

Note that unlike the first 3 shots, there is still considerable uncertainty among the experts--and by this I mean real experts, not political hacks--as to whether a 4th shot is beneficial overall.

Best to just chill for now and watch how things go in Israel. Your booster and mask still have plenty of effectiveness!

While a paid subscription is almost always needed to read NH's largest newspaper, the Union Leader, their tweets are .... http://www.twitter.com/UnionLeader/s...79395512770561 .... easy to see .... "... and Catholic Medical Center in Manchester is under siege from an onslaught of unvaccinated patients infected over the holidays."

..... and a great big Merry Christmas to you, dearie ... cough-cough-cough! .... :eek:

..... think I go try to get a fourth vaccination shot and be upgrading to the N-95 mask that fits tight around the face with treated mask material.

Novak Djokovic, tennis #1...... his first name, Novak, is eerily similar 'no vaccination' ..... Novack-no vaccination-Djokovic ..... just thought I would mention that? ..... http://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/sp...c-vaccine.html ... So, maybe it was his destiny or he was pre-disposed to become a no vaccinate Novack?

U.S. reaches 1 million daily Covid cases amid spread of omicron variant.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...iant-rcna10866

Good Lord.

Florida has all under control ?

"Florida breaks its record with 76,887 new infections Friday; 1 out of 3 COVID-19 tests is positive"

LINK

If sick people did not get tested then the numbers would be lower in Florida.

This. If nobody tests, nobody has Covid. Florida wasn't testing at nearly the rates of the rest of the country, hence the ~1 million expired tests recently discovered.

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I don't know what is true. I am hearing that people checking into hospitals for other issues, with no covid symptoms, get tested. If they are positive they are listed in the covid statistics. I think a lot of people all over the country have had covid and moved on, without ever being tested or feeling symptoms other than a mild cold.

I went to the Fort Myers Seafood festival this afternoon. There were easily 5,000 people there and I saw two with masks. Good? Bad? Who knows.
Florida’s seven-day average as of Friday was of 0.09 deaths a day per 100,000, or the state with the second-lowest rate in the country.

Some things we hear and read may be true but I also think the politicians are making political hay out of it. If the unvaccinated, unmasked people are such a problem why are our current leaders letting them in and giving them free flights to deposit them all over the country?

"The nation’s former border chief reported today that the Biden administration has placed some 40,000 illegal immigrants infected with the coronavirus into American cities."

So what do you believe?

It's easy to see politicians such as DeSantis making "political hay" out of Covid and immigration. I think he (they) deceived us a week ago with misleading numbers, and now they are trying to distract us with immigration.

It's much harder to see any Democrats trying score points on these issues--on Covid, they beg people to get vaxxed and wear masks, on immigration they say nothing. You might think these are bad policies (they sure aren't political winners!). But that is different than them working to deceive us as DeSantis did

"Florida reported 76,887 new COVID-19 cases on Friday"

What part of the Florida Department of Health don't you understand ?

Immigration is only a distraction to those that didn't pay attention in primary school. Friedrich Engels is the chief instigator of those policies, with the Know Nothing Party embedded it in our American culture.

People and businesses that are vaccinated and lowering their public exposure should come through this very well positioned.

If they are using natural infection... larger hospitalization risk (that cost money), and like the vaccines the immunity wanes. So they would need to be reinfected every six months or so... which increases that cost risk.

It is really just establishing a better risk profile over time.

The numbers have increased with the seasonal population change. The influx of snowbirds would have caused the same issue in any other state.

Florida has approximately 21 million residents. That grows by 3 to 4 million people every winter. Those people come from various backgrounds and areas that may be inundated with covid.

The state's permanent population grows by about 1,000 people per day, unlike the northern states that have people fleeing. Obviously, that will change the covid statistics as well.

With this change in numbers and the mobility of people it is no surprise that the covid numbers have begun to rise.

The last I knew they based the numbers on where your declare your residence.

The increase could be a surge from non-residents carrying it into areas, but the actual numbers would be declared residents.

They don't have it under control, because no one has it under control.

The issue is simply hospitalizations and lost time to labor.

Hospitalizations have additional costs to the system... seldom paid by the individual out-of-pocket; and lost time to labor is because it transmits so fast that by the time they get the first employee tested, several others have it. By the time they get us all isolated, the shift... or worse... is no longer viable.

We are not going to be able to control it without changes in our everyday system.

Non-resident data on COVID-19 cases, tests, and vaccines are not regulated in any way.

The absence of governance leads to states presenting data in any format or disregarding it altogether despite the capacity of this data to have major impacts on trends and rates, especially during periods of frequent travel.

To me, it wouldn't make any sense if, say, a snowbird from Ohio who went to Florida for the winter in November died from Covid in a Miami hospital in February was listed as an Ohio death. I believe the statistics are kept and reported by your actual location at the time of the incident.

"When Three Shots Are Not Enough"
 

So, I got turned away and sent out the door yesterday morning, Saturday, January 8, when I tried to get myself my fourth vaccination shot of Pfizer with a scheduled appointment time at the NH-state run, vaccination blitz held in Ashland NH in the former state liquor store at Exit 24. The parking lot out front, was so full of cars I had to park across the road at the lumber yard. Inside, it was very full of people looking to get vaccinated.

Between walking in the former state liquor building, presenting my drivers license, vaccination card, scheduled time, start filling out form and getting told to leave, it involved myself with two attending people and about maybe four minutes time, all told, while a brief consult with some higher authority person was made? Oh well .... Live Free or Die-NH:patriot: ..... think I will stay away from indoor pickleball for a while until I can get a fourth vaccination shot ..... somewhere ..... and use the better quality, tighter fitting, treated material N-95 medical mask for shopping at Walmart and Market Basket and www.heathsmarket.com

My vaccination card shows September 12, 2021 for my third shot, four months ago, and I have read how the vaccination loses some of its' effectiveness after about four months.

So, what's my plan? On Saturday, January 15, between 9 - noon, there will be a vaccination clinic at the Meredith Community Center held by Altrusa International of Meredith.

Another place for me to go is back to the CVS in Plymouth, where I got my first three shots. This Plymouth CVS was like totally TOTALLY excellent, all three times, probably because it was totally empty of people getting vaccinated, except for me, all three times. .... ;)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/u...d-vaccine.html ...... "When Three Shots Are Not Enough"

If at first you don't succeed ...... then quit ..... :eek: .... no way! ....... I will try, try, try it again, somewhere else! .... :banana: ..... And, as you probably know, your CDC heavy paper vaccination record card has four spaces for recording the date and batch #, so mine has a fourth vacant space or line, now awaiting my fourth vaccination information.

http://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/wo...-and-over.html ...... over age-60

No. Florida had a huge case were one of the people keeping their database was very upset that those that tested positive in Florida were not being counted unless they were declared residents of Florida. I don't believe that has been changed.

Florida would choose to list that as an Ohio covid case, and an Ohio covid death.

That type of stuff has been in the news since covid reporting has begun.

NH has issues on its reporting, but has been very open on those issues... something that can not be said of Florida.

Begun to rise? They've skyrocketed!

1,000 new Florida residents/day is a big number. But it's nothing compared to the average daily covid cases--now at 58,000 for Florida. Even if every newcomer has covid, you're still at 57,000. So I'm going to have to disagree on the newcomers changing the stats.

Also, when you say wintertime is tough for covid in Florida, you remind me that a few months ago the governor said summertime was tough because "it's our indoor season".

As I noted above, Rick DeSantis is working hard every day...to deceive us

I think what TiltonBB meant was due to the number of non-residents coming in from other States during the winter Florida would see a surge of infected individuals carrying the virus to the residents of the State.

We all know that travel from one area to another area is how the infection is spreading. So the presumption that infection is being carried from other States into Florida and then spreading within their resident population is extremely likely.

DeSantis has the ability to slow (though I don't think stop) that. He just doesn't think he should.

So's, anyone here in New Hampshire get a fourth shot of the Pfizer yet, and where the H... do I go? ... :confused::banana:

https://www.cnet.com/health/covid-19...-vaccine-dose/ ... January 3, 2022

I don't think you can.
I have the third booster, but that was more to keep up-to-date for employment offers coming in that require the third to be considered completely vaccinated.

Virus Expert Warned We're in a "Really Bad Surge",


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=2

"Starting later this week, some at-risk Americans become eligible for a 4th Shot".

Over at the NH state liquor store in Plymouth which replaced the now closed store in Ashland, you get 10% off the purchase of 3 or more bottles of NH products right now, mixed or matched, any size.

So, I try to get a 4th shot of the Pfizer and I get shown the door, but this ..... https://nytimes.com/2022/01/09/healt...e-booster.html .... January 9, 2022 ...... suggests getting a fourth vaccination shot could become as available as Live Free Distillery Mountain Top Vodka, sold at your NH State Liquor Store for $25.99/1.75L less an extra 10% with purchase of 3 or more bottles! ..... :cheers: ..... and jab me with my 4th shot! ..... :patriot:

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Omicron Update.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...c=U531#image=1

Hey FLL: Still looking for additional jabs of the Fauci Ouchie? Have you given any thought to moving to India?

A pensioner illegally booked himself in for 12 Covid jabs in less than a year before he was caught by cops in India.

Brahamdev Mandal, 84, had all the vaccines in just 11 months and even managed to book two less than 30 minutes apart on the same day.

The serial-vaxxer was only able to sign up for extra jabs by lying to health officials and using the ID of other people who also needed the lifesaving serum.

He said he wanted to feel stronger during the pandemic and rid himself of the joint pain he has suffered for eight years.

The former postman has been accused of a string of offences by police in the village of Orai, in Bihar, India where he lives.

Ocugen has a vaccine that is already approved in some other countries and is pending approval in the United States and Canada. It looks promising against new variants.

The clinical-stage biotech firm has been co-developing a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine with India's Bharat Biotech, and the latest round of data shows their BBV152 booster neutralizes both the Omicron and Delta variants of the virus that causes COVID-19.

The treatment generated a robust neutralizing antibody response against both strains using a live virus neutralization assay. Test serum results showed the Delta variant was neutralized 100% of the time while Omicron neutralized at a rate of 90%.

Traveling to India is a totally super-duper suggestion but I just think I'll self-isolate and spend the rest of January working on the installation of this $13 snowblower replacement carburetor and primer push bulb onto my TroyBilt 2410 snowblower. If I can get it done correct between now and February, this will be a major accomplishment for me! .... :eek:

Plus, the weather needs to warm up to 25-degrees so's I can work on it, outdoors. Right now it's done warmed up to ten but it needs to get warmer for working on a snowblower like this.
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... symptoms of omicron? ...... http://www.wmur.com/article/covid-om...pital/38743393

Dr. Fauci says ‘just about everybody’ will get COVID-19.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

Surgeon General Just Issued This "Difficult" Warning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...n=true#image=1

"So even though it's possible to start imagining that the end of the pandemic is not far away, just everybody be ready for the possibility that there will be more variations and mutations coming along, or that there will be further challenges, other surges of even Omicron coming."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

Very encouraging statement from a Dr Ryan at Mass General

https://rescue.substack.com/p/mass-g...ts-no-boosters


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Predicting?

Just a note that Mass. General has a statement on their page saying that the details in the attached article come from "an individual's personal notes from listening to a talk by Edward Ryan, MD" and that they "lack context, details, and nuance."

There was a similar article about a Pennsylvania epidemiologist, but I can't seem to find it.

In short, we all want this to end and await how it will.

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Dr. Fauci says it’s too soon to tell whether omicron will end the pandemic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...emic-rcna12553

Free at home tests
 

The free test site is up and running. https://www.covidtests.gov/

How and Why Some People Can Get COVID-19 Twice, According to Dr. Fauci.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531