The boater is indeed a Roger Ploof Jr. He is one of the cofounders of S&R Corp. out of Lowell, MA.
https://sandrcorp.com/about/our-team/

Rumor has it that he's affiliated with the mob so I wouldn't be surprised if he has a somewhat extensive rap sheet.

Last I heard he had fled the state and was on the run. Not sure if he has been apprehended yet.

Roger R Ploof - Father?
 

If Roger R Ploof was his father, then Junior didn't fall far from the tree.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal.../851/7/320335/

Hmmmmm
 

Why to I feel this thread is going to go "bye bye"?!?!

Dave

Overall it's been a good source of information. Like other threads, things have gone a little sideways which I don't find helpful or informative.

Forgetaboutit he's on the lam..

How is this not a story all over the news?!

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No arrest warrants have been issued by the NH SP. just looking to talk


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I am just so surprised it’s not being talked about more. I am sure both him and his friends are either on the run or hiding. Hopefully when they apprehend everyone - hopefully the will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.


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Clearly, the police have shared his name with some of the victims. Plus, he was fairly well known for that boat, so other people have so surmised his identity.

Not sure why police have not shared his identity with the media. I don’t understand why they wouldnt if they are looking for him.

I am also wondering if they have made contact with all parties and they are keeping everything hush until their investigation is completed.


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At least there’s one thing that’s clear - it will be a good while before that boat is back in the water.


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Or Washington Post...
 

Yeah, you'd think all NH print media were controlled by The New York Times!

There's personal information here that doesn't lead to resolving important details. It is unknown if the alleged operator has yet been interviewed or charged with anything related to the circumstances.

Possible charges so far:
Failure to keep a proper watch,
Failure to observe the 150' rule,
Failure to report an accident within 10 days,
Leaving the scene of an accident (without injuries),
Entering a designated swimming area while under power,

Are any of these felonies? (BWI/"Operating under the influence" remains unproven

ETA:

On occasion, my Smartphone surprises me with "Google Photos", where they play relaxing music and print photos with: "Look at what you were enjoying in 2017"...

So...the latest Google display shows a bright red float, a float-outlined swimming area, a dock, a pumpkin-colored boat cover atop a long wooden boat. :eek2:

If I'd been paying more attention to the view--than to lunch--I would have witnessed (maybe even heard) this collision.

If the HackerCraft had been docked on the same side as pictured on "Google Photos", the 50-foot Searay would've entered the float-outlined swimming area first! :eek:

No. Mostly fines. With a possible misdemeanor for damages over $2000 should the accident go unreported for 15 days.
But the accident may have already been reported. Since it can be reported by the operator, the boat owner, or representative of either.

They could charge the operator with negligent operation, which would be a misdemeanor. Probably resolved with a fine up to $2000

Jail time is a possibility... but not a likely outcome.

Based on the comment about the NYT, we should be asking why Rep Bordes is not screaming and proposing stricter punishment for those that cause injury or loss in a boating accident. It would help his perennial attempt to change the speed limit if he were seen as trying to be tougher on instances of moral flaw.

Absolutely! I wonder what his take is on the matter of this accident? I think that the state should look into having a stricter regulations on how a boat certificate is obtained and holding to the same standard as a motor vehicle driver’s license which has to be renewed.


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Great take on where is Rep Bordes on this issue.


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Tough to run when you own a business with $18MM/year in revenue

(On the other hand, I've heard it said, it's just as hard when the weight is lead...)

Love the GD reference , just as hard to run with the weight of lead.

For the lawyers out there:
If the boat is not reported stolen
Not reported missing/lost
Can it be sold at auction as abandoned property?
And can a 3rd party step forward to claim it in the name of the owner, or can only the owner do that?

I looked at the picture of the boat from a [post that was taken a few years back and it seems to be some of the same folks to me. I really doubt the kids took this boat but, that's his story and I bet he sticks to it.

From what I can find he also had tax liens issues from both New Hampshire and Massachusetts. I think his boating days are over, at least legal boating days....

Third party representative can claim it in the name of the owner... but it doesn't have to be reported as lost or stolen. Those claims would only be made if it was lost/stolen, or in an attempt to cover the identity of the operator.
Making a false statement would move the criminal charges up.

Based on what we know, we can only infer that the operator had other issues... even more than BAC to be concerned about. That BAC level would have dropped within a 12/24 hr period to be of no legal issue.

The reporting timeline being up to 15 days means that BAC level when leaving the scene is of little to no consequence.

Operating without a valid boating certificate, or having narcotics in your system, could trigger secondary issues if you already had legal troubles from other events.

More than likely insurance will pay, heavy fines will be negotiated, and the boat returned to the owner. Boating operation certificate, if it exists, may be revoked/suspended.

The same thing actually happens in ATV/Snowmobile/Trail Bikes with some minor variation.

Maybe the law should be change to make the penalty for leaving the scene of an accident the same as the penalty for causing personal injury or property damage while boating intoxicated.

This whole story is eerily similar to the one that happened in Boston Harbor about two years ago, with the owner of another demo company in Mass and his 36' Pursuit. Unfortunately, a girl was killed in that incident. As far as I know there were never any charges filed and it dropped out of the media quickly.

There seems to be a similar coincidence with these big demo companies, maybe some of the elected officials should look into that....

**Edit** They did end up charging the guy from Boston with manslaughter and a whole bunch of other charges. Doesn't look like it has been heard yet that I could find.

Similar, but:

1. A girl died.
2. The authorities let the guy go home after everybody was rescued, with no drug or alcohol testing, and…
3. The boat was stored in a secure yard, where it burned one night, many months later.

How long until the Sea Ray burns??

I didn't know that until today. An unfortunate reality is that I am in the construction industry and we do business with both of these horrible companies, and trust me they are horrible. I wish I was in a position to change that, but I'm not quite there yet...

It won't.
There are no felony charges at risk here.

Today's Sun.

Alan

If it does burn, I'll need some long sticks for the marshmallows and hotdogs!

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You Thought The Boat Looked Bad...?
 

A friend took pictures of the struck dock yesterday.

It's been badly crushed--as has the fencing. My friend says it was a metal fence. I thought it looked (from afar) like a long bicycle rack. Not much left of it, either. :eek2:

It's funny we haven't heard a word about it.

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From The Sun
 

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...oHgKT2H-2__GV8

Dan

OK, Then...
 

I'll go ahead and speculate (some more). :emb:

At ~11:00PM, the operator of left a residence in Tuftonboro (a town only a hundred watery yards from Wolfeboro), headed SE, passing a flashing-red marker 19, failed to turn South, continued a hundred yards until crushing the victim's dock with its 20 tons, flew over the HackerCraft (Dukes of Hazzard style--hat-tip to Codeman671), depressing the HackerCraft into the water--yet damaging the helm severely*, ripping through the pumpkin-colored boat cover (collecting part of it in the Searay's crushed starboard propeller), fleeing until running aground nearby, telephoning the party of the Tuftonboro home they'd just left, got a return lift to the same residence, thereby escaping authorities' scrutiny of the operator's condition. (Whether affected by alcohol or drugs).

The Searay could have piles of "empties" abandoned inside it.

*my recollection (and one old photograph) has the HackerCraft docked on the northern (other) side of the dock, wrapped in a pumpkin-colored boat cover.

Those Tuftonboro residences bordering noisy highway 109 are a haven for local (and visiting) noisy oversized boats.

Wish he'd snapped off that SeaRay rudder though... then I'd have bookends! Found this one south of 40 Islands.

"Flight" Craft...
 

I've learned a little bit more:

1) The 50' Searay traveled less than 100' before grounding on shore. (Some of that distance was "in flight"). :rolleye2: There would have been a sudden stop--without airbags. :eek2: (So expect injuries).

2) I was shown a photo of the getaway boat. It was photographed by flashlight, but three occupants can be seen: one especially clearly. :eek:

Because of the "on going" investigation, I shouldn't disclose anything further.

I am not sure what you believe you have learned that wasn't already know, and public knowledge.....

I for one am just glad, that we haven't found out about any deaths, or serious injuries, related to this..... Don't however let that make you think, I don't have thoughts about what went on, and what should happen to the people involved.... Maybe the details of the case will come out, maybe they won't.....

The Carroll County grand jury sits tomorrow, then on 10/20, 11/17, 12/20.
Given the date of the accident and tomorrow, can anybody with experience tell us how long this type of investigation would take to be ready to proceed to a jury?

The Grand Jury at this point and time is not relevant to this case. Assuming the investigation is not concluded, it is indeterminate as to weather or not there are charges that can be brought by the DA, or questionable charges that the DA would bring to the Grand Jury for evaluation of weather there was any wrong doing.

Grand Jury, doesn't equal a Jury Trial....

Chances are we have ALL seen the picture you are referring to. The one showing the port side of the boat with the bow numbers clearly depicted, the back of the guy that owns the Sea Ray with a gray shirt on, the guy in the blue tank top covering his face, and the woman in pink...:D

It still amazes me that you think the 50' Sea Ray was airborne, landed and ended up grounded, but has such minimal damage to itself?

And that nobody was SERIOUSLY injured--that about how fast a boat would be traveling to get airborne