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Rich 06-03-2019 11:03 AM

Will this be the new 'Where's Waldo' for Lake Winni?

Where's the Dive? :D

joey2665 06-07-2019 07:14 AM

Dive is at its mooring location behind Anthony’s and has announced extended hours for bike week closing at midnight every night


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Hillcountry 06-07-2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 313049)
Dive is at its mooring location behind Anthony’s and has announced extended hours for bike week closing at midnight every night


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Mooring or tied up to the dock? They should have a very good bike week at this location!

joey2665 06-07-2019 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 313050)
Mooring or tied up to the dock? They should have a very good bike week at this location!

Sorry you are correct it’s tied up. You cannot pull up with a boat you must walk on via the pier.


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webmaster 06-17-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot (Post 312210)
I don’t think they are breaking any rules, laws or ordinances.

I think that has turned out to be the case after speaking to a few people at the pier today.

I haven't seen any posted yet so I took a few pictures of the boarding area underneath the arcade and Anthony's. There was a private party on board so there was no other activity yet:

BrunoSR 06-18-2019 10:02 AM

Hey that third picture looks like your standing on my boat?:)

You didn't happen to clean all the pollen off did you?

webmaster 06-18-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BrunoSR (Post 313535)
Hey that third picture looks like your standing on my boat?:)

You didn't happen to clean all the pollen off did you?

I was standing on the dock and left the pollen for you :coolsm:.

fatlazyless 06-18-2019 11:25 AM

Walking or driving down along the Weirs boardwalk in the vicinity of the Mount Washington cruise ship, The Dive there is basically invisible. It cannot be seen as it is docked behind the large Pier structure so it's best visibility is most definitely on the Weirs Cam?

And apparently, there's no incoming drive-up business with drive-up boaters or waders/swimmers/floaters boarding from the water there similar to the West Alton sand bar so how good a business location will it turn out to be?

Maybe boaters could drop anchor and float on into The Dive on a yellow foam noodle ..... the crocodile way to go ..... and here's an old crocodile joke .... ok ..... a crocodile walks into a bar and is about to order a drink ..... the bartender looks up ..... and quickly asks ..... 'so, why the long face today?' .... :laugh:

Has it made any sand bar cruising trips, lately?

garysanfran 06-18-2019 05:17 PM

Just a theory...
 
I heard, from, what should be a pretty reliable source for this info...That Anthony's will be closing. This, probably the last season. I've heard from many sources that Flightcraft will be doing a major reno of the old Winni gardens building.

I think mayhaps, The Dive know this and is setting up to take the business during the reno and after Anthony's closes...Who knows.

fatlazyless 06-18-2019 06:01 PM

This is a restaurant ... not a rest area!
 
As the #1 best, award winning restaurant, welcoming entry sign ..... ever, ever made ..... in the world history of restaurant entry signs ..... this sign:

This is a restaurant
Not a rest area

hung from the ceiling, just inside the entry door at Anthony's on The Pier has got to be my fave sign ever for a restaurant ...... and hopefully it will somehow get preserved as a friendly relic, or something ...... good for a laugh ..... ha-ha-ha ... :laugh::laugh::laugh:!

Makes me think of Mel from Mel's Dinner on the 1980's Alice tv show.

Descant 06-18-2019 08:37 PM

Gary, posted elsewhere, I believe, the original plans for Flightcraft were to do major rehab to the structure. After all, it is about 70 years old, the underpinnings could be older.

Barney Bear 06-18-2019 09:42 PM

Creak! Groan! Moan!
 
Not as old as mine. 🐻

garysanfran 06-19-2019 07:09 AM

Anthony's is kinda like Starbucks...
 
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Originally Posted by garysanfran (Post 313553)
I heard, from, what should be a pretty reliable source for this info...That Anthony's will be closing. This, probably the last season. I've heard from many sources that Flightcraft will be doing a major reno of the old Winni gardens building.

I think mayhaps, The Dive know this and is setting up to take the business during the reno and after Anthony's closes...Who knows.

Great place to hang-out. Buy one beer/one cup of coffee and spend the day on the internet. Difference is that Anthony's has a better view than any Starbucks I've ever seen.

garysanfran 06-19-2019 07:56 AM

Seems to be a partnership...
 
I never say Anthony's and Flightcraft so cozy! There's more to this, me thinks!


https://www.facebook.com/16544150545...0563590314128/

Taz 06-20-2019 01:03 PM

The Dive
 
When the Dive started last year and patrons commented on their prices being high, the Dive ownership stated "because we are on the water, stocking supplies, driving to other locations, its more expensive to operate" I was told this by ownership on my one and only visit. So... since the Dive now has a permanent home connected to land, does that mean the prices will go down to reflect that its not as expensive to operate?

Woodsy 06-20-2019 01:30 PM

Taz...

Spent quite a bit of time on the Dive during Bike Week... I haven't been to the Dive at sandbar, so I cannot comment on their pricing. I can say that while docked I did not find their prices to be high. I think I paid $4.50 for a Bud Light can. I did have the Mediterranean Plate (Delicious!) and I think that was $11-$12 bucks or so.... all while watching the world go by on the lake!

Certainly they are no more expensive than the Naswa!

Woodsy

ishoot308 06-20-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taz (Post 313731)
When the Dive started last year and patrons commented on their prices being high, the Dive ownership stated "because we are on the water, stocking supplies, driving to other locations, its more expensive to operate" I was told this by ownership on my one and only visit. So... since the Dive now has a permanent home connected to land, does that mean the prices will go down to reflect that its not as expensive to operate?

I doubt it as now they have to rent space from Flightcraft and i'm sure that is not cheap... Whatever price they are charging does not seem to bother most patrons as they seem to be packed most of the time!

Dan

Taz 06-20-2019 02:21 PM

Dive
 
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Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 313733)
I doubt it as now they have to rent space from Flightcraft and i'm sure that is not cheap... Whatever price they are charging does not seem to bother most patrons as they seem to be packed most of the time!

Dan

My post was tongue in cheek/rhetorical. I know they are not going to reduce prices. Just pointing out their ridiculous response.

Taz 06-20-2019 02:28 PM

Dive
 
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Originally Posted by Woodsy (Post 313732)
Taz...

Spent quite a bit of time on the Dive during Bike Week... I haven't been to the Dive at sandbar, so I cannot comment on their pricing. I can say that while docked I did not find their prices to be high. I think I paid $4.50 for a Bud Light can. I did have the Mediterranean Plate (Delicious!) and I think that was $11-$12 bucks or so.... all while watching the world go by on the lake!

Certainly they are no more expensive than the Naswa!

Woodsy

Last year the Dive pina colada was $14.00 a plastic cup and I have had much better pina colada's elsewhere. Town Dox has $14.00 signature drinks IN A BUCKET and they are much better drinks. The Town Docks also had similar size cocktails for $10.00. The NASWA had better drinks in the same size cup for $10.00. So do I think they are expensive? Yes, I'm all set thank you.

ericnh 06-20-2019 03:07 PM

Great story on "The Dive" by Chronicle
 
https://www.wmur.com/article/thursda...aukee/23508552

fatlazyless 06-27-2019 05:07 PM

...... here comes the dive ...... very slowly ....... coming down the passage between Bear and Mark Island and maybe..... probably?.....going to its Weirs home port ...... there it is ..... looks like a big white shoe box or something.....or like a big gypsy boxy house boat or something..... is pointed directly at me ..... so's think I'll go hit the lake and wave as it goes by ..... who knows ..... will probably adjust course ..... is moving very slowly ..... at about maybe 4-mph ....definitely a no wake speed ..... gotta hit the water ..... is actually sorta nice look'n out there ....... everyone just loves the dive! ....... weeoooooooo!

rick35 06-27-2019 06:23 PM

I saw the Dive go by this morning and when it returned this afternoon. It goes really slow and those big Evinrudes were revving pretty loud. It does look like a big shoebox. With all that upper weight i’d be concerned about it tipping over.

joey2665 06-28-2019 06:11 AM

Looks like the Dives plan is when the weather is good to hit a sandbar during the day and back to the pier for nighttime festivities.

Yesterday they were in Braun Bay and back by 7:30pm


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LIforrelaxin 06-28-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rick35 (Post 314200)
I saw the Dive go by this morning and when it returned this afternoon. It goes really slow and those big Evinrudes were revving pretty loud. It does look like a big shoebox. With all that upper weight i’d be concerned about it tipping over.

With the platform, a barge, that they built upon, and the speed at which she travels I don't think there is any reason to be concerned with a tipping issue.

The engines and their longevity are of course in question. As with all the other barges I see around the lake I will not be suprised to see engines being replaced, from time to time... The beauty of outboards is that swapping them out should be pretty straight forward.

If I owned the Dive, I would be strongly considering going to an external tug to move around the lake with, and making the barge just that a barge..... A separate tug can be setup, to have much more thrust power to push that barge around, and have a very reliable and long lasting diesel engine....

https://curtinmaritime.com/wp-conten...ness-800-1.jpg

fatlazyless 06-28-2019 08:05 AM

Here's an el cheapo solution that could be a fun thing to do. Get six of those used, long black paddle board paddles for short money from Ekal in Meredith,

and allow customers to help move the barge by paddling it along as it goes ...... hey everyone, who wants to paddle? ....... and maybe give them

some courtesy Cheez-its for energy .......

Cheez-it paddle power on The Dive!

Paddles actually have a lot of torque and orange Cheez-its will float!

Woodsy 06-28-2019 12:01 PM

All these comments about the Dive by lots of people who haven't even been on it. Give it a try before you bash the place!

The Dive is BEYOND stable, and has USCG certification and has been inspected by NHMP.

Woodsy

kawishiwi 06-28-2019 12:49 PM

I like food trucks.
 
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Originally Posted by Woodsy (Post 314244)
All these comments about the Dive by lots of people who haven't even been on it. Give it a try before you bash the place!

The Dive is BEYOND stable, and has USCG certification and has been inspected by NHMP.

Woodsy

I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.
I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.
The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.
It's astonishingly "fugly".
Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.
Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.

Mr. V 06-28-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi (Post 314245)
I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you.

The mount is much bigger but I don't see people complaining about it.

Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?

fatlazyless 06-28-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi;

... is just a waterborne food truck

Does it pollute the lake with urine, feces, gasoline, oil, trash, litter, junk debris, plastic, food container items, alcoholic beverage items or anything else originated from The Dive itself or coming from the attracted drive-in boaters at the different sand bar locations where it anchors in place to attract business?

joey2665 06-28-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi (Post 314245)
I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.

I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.

The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.

It's astonishingly "fugly".

Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.

Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.

Certainly your choice to like it or not to like it but it has all the necessary approvals to operate on the lake so it has every right to be there just as we do


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The Real BigGuy 06-28-2019 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi (Post 314245)
I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.

I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.

The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.

It's astonishingly "fugly".

Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.

Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.

My daughter has a friend who is always “i don’t like this”, “i don’t like that”. When we ask “have you tried it?” She usually says “no”. Then how do you know? I didn’t like lobster until I was 21, then I tried it and found out what I was missing. Give the Dive a try. If you don’t like it then your view will carry some weight.


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Garcia 06-28-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. V (Post 314249)
The mount is much bigger but I don't see people complaining about it.

Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?

The Mount and The Dive are an apples to oranges comparison. Trump and Obama are both Presidents so must be the same, right?:laugh:

fatlazyless 06-28-2019 07:36 PM

The Dive seems to move along at 4-mph and will drop anchor on top of a shallow sandbar for four hours, trying to attract boaters to drop anchor and wade through the water to get on-board The Dive for purchasing food and adult drinks. It will stop at a shallow water sand bar, stay in place, and wait for the business to show up.

With people climbing in and out of their boats like this, there's a good chance for different types of pollution. It's much more of an uncontrolled situation for all the pollution items mentioned in my above post. Items like food packaging, napkins, food items and human waste getting into the lake are more likely to happen.

...............


The Mount Washington moves along at 22-mph and makes predesignated brief stops at the various town docks. No one goes from boat to water to sandbar to a private smaller boat, along the way ....... everyone stays on-board the 220' ship. The Mount is a much more controlled, safer and clean lake cruise.

Blyblvrd 06-29-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 314266)
The Dive seems to move along at 4-mph and will drop anchor on top of a shallow sandbar for four hours, trying to attract boaters to drop anchor and wade through the water to get on-board The Dive for purchasing food and adult drinks. It will stop at a shallow water sand bar, stay in place, and wait for the business to show up.

With people climbing in and out of their boats like this, there's a good chance for different types of pollution. It's much more of an uncontrolled situation for all the pollution items mentioned in my above post. Items like food packaging, napkins, food items and human waste getting into the lake are more likely to happen.

...............


The Mount Washington moves along at 22-mph and makes predesignated brief stops at the various town docks. No one goes from boat to water to sandbar to a private smaller boat, along the way ....... everyone stays on-board the 220' ship. The Mount is a much more controlled, safer and clean lake cruise.

Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?


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Top-Water 06-29-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blyblvrd (Post 314298)
Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?

Thank you ...:):)

I didn't think anyone else was noticing this line of exaggerated line of BS.

For the record I'm not a big Dive Supporter never went on board, but I don't hate it either.

Post 189 Before it gets edited into something else,
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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 314250)
Does it pollute the lake with urine, feces, gasoline, oil, trash, litter, junk debris, plastic, food container items, alcoholic beverage items or anything else originated from The Dive itself or coming from the attracted drive-in boaters at the different sand bar locations where it anchors in place to attract business?


The Real BigGuy 06-29-2019 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd (Post 314298)
Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?


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Uninformed - fatlazyless. Nah, that could never happen[emoji6]


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Garcia 06-29-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blyblvrd (Post 314298)
Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?


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It's one of those things I don't like to think about - all those people out rafting, swimming, and drinking - where are they going to the bathroom? Do I want to know???

Mr. V 06-29-2019 01:16 PM

Seems to me that the dive provides a very good service when anchored on a sand bar, namely: it has a toilet available.

Those here who fear the possibility of human waste contaminating the lake should feel better when the dive is anchored as it gives all the rafters an actual toilet to use as opposed to simply "doing their business" in the lake as is the only option otherwise.

Were I a betting man (and I am) I'd be willing to bet the farm that the dive has a holding tank for the on borad toilet(s) as opposed to simply letting effluent flow into the lake (duh).

They provide a much needed service, at least for those rafters who actually bother to choose to use the toilet(s).

kawishiwi 06-29-2019 11:13 PM

Seriously, are we 9 yrs old?
 
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 314253)
My daughter has a friend who is always “i don’t like this”, “i don’t like that”. When we ask “have you tried it?” She usually says “no”. Then how do you know? I didn’t like lobster until I was 21, then I tried it and found out what I was missing. Give the Dive a try. If you don’t like it then your view will carry some weight.


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I don't like cancer either. But I've never actually had it so you think I should withhold judgement about cancer being bad until I actually experience it?

Seriously.

kawishiwi 06-29-2019 11:23 PM

Let me count the ways...
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. V (Post 314249)
The mount is much bigger but I don't see people complaining about it.

Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?

Nice attempt at deflection. There are a lot of things I like & alot that I don't. The dive is ugly. The dive is like a food truck in the middle of a state park trail. The dive is out of place anchored on a sandbar. These things are true by themselves, independent of any other thing.


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