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Barney Bear

12-15-2019 01:34 PM

Forum Member

Hal Lyon was a participant of this informative forum, particularly making contributions about fishing. 🐻

Marine Patrol

12-15-2019 10:39 PM

Only statements have been ignorant

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAMIAM (Post 323983)

I have a different take on Captain Dunleavy's post.
I think it's perfectly normal that people would speculate about what happened and exchange thoughts on what might have caused the accident especially since it involved two experienced and well respected boaters.
I don't recall him responding in such a fashion (calling posters ignorant" when everyone was discussing the two other fatal accidents in previous years.
It wasn't a criminal matter and everyone was respectful to the families so I just don't understand what seemed to be such an angry response. I find it a little improper from a public official.
After all the thanks he got.....I'll probably get blasted but just my take on it.

SAMIAM,
My apologies! My comment, "ignorant, uninformed statements" was directed at some of the conclusions proposed in this thread and not at any one specific member of this forum.

Ignorant statements are those made without specific knowledge in a particular field (in this case boat accident reconstruction, or without the benefit of seeing these boats in person).

At no time did I intend to insult members of this forum. Again, my apologies if my comments were misunderstood.

Tim

ApS	12-16-2019 04:40 AM

Built out of Frustration...

You see, seldom are we able to get the full story (or the "back-story") on events initiated by the MSM/media--especially those with boats in the "picture".

We are drawn to investigation, so we do what we can here. :o

Phantom

12-16-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 323850)

in deference to those closer to the families ……… can we NOT debate the impact speculations in open forum?

I applaud Capt. Dunleavy's intent ……….. I tried the same thing last Thursday but got a "thread lashing" from many & so the debate and speculation continued !

Capt. -- it is good to know that you keep an eye on this Forum to gauge Public opinion.

iw8surf

12-16-2019 09:56 AM

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

chipj29

12-16-2019 09:59 AM

Respect

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Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 324020)

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

I took it as more of a request to be respectful of the victims and their families.

BTW, free speech has no application here on this forum. You are free to type anything you want. It's up to the moderator to determine what is allowed to be posted.

Sue Doe-Nym

12-16-2019 10:01 AM

Seriously???

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Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 324020)

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

I believe that you are missing his message. C’mon, lighten up!

TiltonBB

12-16-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 324020)

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

The Captain was asking people to be respectful of the pain that the families are going through. He hoped that the speculation would go away for now. I am sure the correct information will be released when the time is right.

Read the entire thread and think about how you would feel about the idle speculation if it were one of your family members involved in this tragedy.

It is obvious, especially with his follow up post to clarify his intent, that his intentions were correct. The Captain should be commended for his post.

Descant

12-16-2019 01:00 PM

Apology?

Quote:

Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 324020)

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

I think this is out of line. It is certainly inconsistent with the general intent of Capt. Dunleavy's posts. I have had many interactions with Capt. Dunleavy as well as Director Barrett before him over many years. They, and their officers and staff have great compassion and empathy for others. They are professionals and you don't go far in their profession without compassion and empathy. Thank you, Captain.

BoatHouse

12-16-2019 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iw8surf (Post 324020)

Nothing like the police getting online to a public forum and requesting to silence peoples free speech. Live free or die!

Completely disagree with your message. My take is they are looking for people to be respectful of the families and do not speculate on something we have no facts or basis. Think from the families perspective

garysanfran

12-16-2019 03:08 PM

Freedom of speech...

Doesn't mean there can't be consequences for what you say...Such as saying things in bad taste when proper decorum dictates speech moderation.

Wifi-1

12-16-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by garysanfran (Post 324032)

Doesn't mean there can't be consequences for what you say...Such as saying things in bad taste when proper decorum dictates speech moderation.

One would think, but I don't see that happening around here much, consequences that is... :)

skprbob

12-16-2019 06:19 PM

Freedom!?

All of our cherished freedoms come with the responsibility to use it wisely and I observe that freedom of speech is perhaps the most abused.

We also need to remember Sherlock Holmes' First Rule: "It is a capital error to theorize in advance of the facts."

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