I predict we wiil have a new number 1 poster in 2 years. If the web-master does not get sick of everyone fighting and closes the place down. {But don't worry, it won't be you}. :liplick::liplick: Your not even close to taking things over.

Stay safe Joey

And here we have it. The root of your concern. Don't worry Steve, this overreaction to the Chinese coronavirus is going to backfire. Trump will be reelected by a margin greater than ever imagined. He is a true leader, and his leadership skills are on full display.

He must be a Russian troll who wants many Americans to die. :confused:
But in all seriousness he is Trumps "mini me". :emb:

I don't see FLL relinquishing that title without a fight.:D

:laugh::laugh::laugh: And I think you are right but have a feeling that the obsessed will give him a run for his money.

...... say-hey ..... I don't post because I like to post ..... I post because I am so totally bored out of my mind and have nothing better to do ..... is more like a disease ..... cough-cough-cough ...... excuse me!

The root of my concern is the health and wellbeing of all Americans that will die but could be prevented.

This however, shows the roots of your stance. You have drank the kool-aid and are a full on Trumpette. Immune to facts and reason.

Won’t be me. I have no desire or need to surpass FLL. I post only when I feel I can contribute to a conversation of assist others that have similar beliefs as myself. Also have given free tax advice many times.

I must tell you the negativity I am receiving lately is disheartening it’s fine to disagree everyone is entitled to their own opinions but to say I post too much, I find it personally insulting and there are many others that have posted more than me.

I will continue to be on the site as I find much of the information useful, although not recently, however I will not be posting very much any longer I’m sure many of you will be happy. Good luck and stay safe all.


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TDS is alive and well!

Despite the rants of the left and the different levels of reaction to the virus, the people who are so consumed with TDS should prepare themselves for 4 1/2 more years of a Trump Presidency. If the virus clears up in the next few months November is still coming. For some people, 2020 is going to be a very bad year!

In other news:

“The CDC’s response has been excellent, as it has been in the past,” said John Auerbach, president of the nonpartisan Trust for America’s Health, which works with government at all levels to improve the nation’s response to high-risk health crises. Some Democrats have charged that Trump decimated the nation’s public health leadership, but Auerbach said CDC’s top scientific ranks have remained stable during the past three years.

THE FACTS: They’re wrong to say the agencies have seen their money cut. Bloomberg repeated the false claim that states the U.S. is unprepared for the virus because of “reckless cuts” to the CDC. Instead, financing has increased while Trump has been President.

It won't be me either. I am passionate about our President and preserving conservative values. The negativity is disappointing. However, what's more disappointing is how easy we turtle and give up our liberties and freedoms without questioning why. This time it's the Chinese coronavirus. Next time it will be climate change. Next time it will be because China owns us, and we have to submit because bureaucrats tell us so. I won't convince them and they won't convince me. I can live with that. That's what makes America great - diversity of views. At the end of the day I hope we can share a cocktail and have a few laughs about the silliness of it all. Because what I think and others think really doesn't matter or change the course of events.

The short reply:
I feel the same as you these days, that why I'm mostly just posting old photos these days. I don't feel I wanna share every single detail of my life on here.

The issue with this statement is that you assume people don't question why, when the reality is many people do. They simply come to a different conclusion than you.

Completely agree :cheers:

Thank you ....... worth repeating.

It would be my position that Stark was referring to the inhumanities between people as opposed to a pandemic.

Nice try though.

Thanks to the Constitution, you are free to express your opinion as you have here. My opinion may vary.

Define hypocrisy: the guy who always has something critical to say complaining about negativity.

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I agree, Joey—though I don't always see eye-to-eye with people here, it's always been my MO to live and let live.

The amount of criticism here lately—too many posts, political attacks, personal criticisms over life decisions, etc.—is pathetic.

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Well There IT is! Your only motivation. you have now been exposed. Move to MA so you can vote the Democrat ticket

Sure, ignore everything else I've said, including my actual motivations. It's pretty much the modus operandi of sycophantic Trump supporters.

Steven, Steven, Steven......you must get rid of the rage! It’s not healthy! One post after the other...ranting, raging, name-calling....way over the top. Cut yourself a break....and the rest of us....and please knock it off! Take a deep breath...that’s it.....very good....now try to relax and be happy. 😎

I'm going to do some yoga and meditate until the death numbers are released this evening.

Y2k
 

I gauze into my crystal ball and see...

Thousands of American citizens dead but not millions. People look at the final numbers and say, "See - it was a hoax. Not nearly as many people died. It wasn't the catastrophe predicted. Fake news."

It will remind me of Y2K and how, after tens of thousands of IT workers spend millions of hours combing thru code and fixing problems in the couple of years leading up to 2000, not much went wrong and people looked back and said, "See! It was much ado about nothing." The efforts and preparations lost to them in the moments after that midnight.

It will be because of the self-quarantines, the social distancing, the closures of social gathering places and places of business that 3.2 million people did not ultimately die. But cause and effect can be intangible things that only look at the moment.

It is a bad foreboding for the future should a truly terrible virus comes along, something akin to Ebola but spreads farther, and people will look back at covid-19 and say, "See! Another hoax." The lessons will having not been learned and we dither...

Does anyone know, or believe they know, that the anti-malaria drugs will work as a fix to covid-19? Had to take them while in Vietnam, with the U.S. Army, May 67-Feb. 69.

After reading this thread ... might start taking again! :eek:

Testing hydrochloroquine
 

Apparently, they are running trials on this anti-malarial drug, hydrochloroquine, combined with an antibiotic, I believe Zpac. Some physicians and hospitals have claimed success with it on some of their severely ill Coronavirus patients. Hope it pans out as it sounds very promising.

It appears our President listened to the experts and will extend the stay home to April 30th.


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Another drug called Remdesivir by Gilead is also under study/trials (Started with 6 hospitals and now up to 44 > then they got overwhelmed with requests and had to pause any new sites) I think I heard they are also extended it for special cases - preliminary results are encouraging but these tings take time as these trials don't mean much unless they are wide ranging and real data can be extracted.

I "think" this is a new drug as compared to the malaria one which has been around for a long time and has a track record.

Trump is currently acknowledging that 2.2million people would have died if we did nothing.

Despite the usual attacks on some of the press, and at least one major whopper (claiming he didn't say on Hannity that he didn't believe NY would need 30-40k ventilators), this has been his best daily briefing by far.

He states that 2.2million would have died with no action.

Extended federal distancing guidance to April 30th

Expecting the 'apex' to occur in 2 weeks' time (optimistic, but at least he is looking for an apex now)

Sounds like the projections they are basing decisions on will be released on Tuesday

Accepting if they keep death totals to 100-200k or lower they will be doing a "good job".

Conservative heads are exploding! :eek:

Heath's super market in Center Harbor has changed their hours:

Monday - Saturday 8 to 6

Sunday 8 to 1
..............

7am to 8am, Monday - Saturday; open for age 60+ or with compromised immunity

Explain?


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Successes Mounting!
 

Looking at a map of typically-malarial regions of Africa, you'll see that the areas taking anti-malarial drugs are empty of the Wuhan-corona virus. Africans taking anti-malarial drugs as treatment for Lupus disease aren't appearing with Wuhan-corona virus.

There is a cocktail of drugs now being given in the US. Doctors have been appearing in great support of Hydroxychloroquine, Chloroquine, and Remdesivir. Millions of doses are in the process of being shipped to the US by Teva Pharmaceuticals of Israel. All will have arrived by this Tuesday.

Being studied are side effects of heart arrhythmia and eye complications. One recorded account is of a recovered man at Joe DiMaggio hospital in Palm Beach County, Florida.

Although several days old, physicians' successes are being podcast 24/7 at The Sean Hannity Show. The title is "The Latest COVID-19 Treatments". (97 minutes).

Major could be right!
 

I hope so!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTT...jcdocbRnaGz6_c

Free access on the corona virus crisis: www.nytimes.com ...... read all about it!

'Trump Extends Social Distancing Guidelines Through End of April' by Michael D. Shear ........ written and updated on March 29 & 30, 2020

Here's two paragraphs from this report that really caught my attention:

The president also expressed horror at the grim scenes playing out at hospitals in New York City, where he spent much of his adult life. He cited the situation at Elmhurst Hospital Center - "I know it very well," he said - which has been inundated in recent days with people ill from the virus.

"I've been watching that for the last week on television, body bags all over in hallways," Mr. Trump said. "I have been watching them bringing in trailer trucks, freezer trucks because they can't handle the bodies. There are so many of them. This is in essentially my community in Queens, New York. I have seen things that I have never seen before."

If you take a “more metered” approach, by definition you are not planning for the worst. I think that puts you in the realm of planning for the almost worst.


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I am confused. Didn’t our president limit activity with social distancing guidance? Didn’t the governor of NH limit business activity? Also, didn’t our president and our congress just give the biggest welfare package in history? I am not seeing this as a liberal handouts or a grab of personal freedom.

If you or a family member was laid off, I feel sorry for them. The economy has been propped up by the government for a long time and it was bound to happen at some point. Check the relief package for money you can get from the government. Also, check with the company that laid you off because if they had less than 500 employees, they can still make payroll through June 30th up to annual salaries of $100k per employee through the relief package.

My opinion is that this is all because testing failed and it was not taken seriously by most people from the get go. When it gets to NH, most resources in the country will be depleted. So, NH will not be immune.

Telling out of state home owners to stay in their home states is taking away personal freedom. And, no state or individual has any right to do that. My opinion is that the spread will occur regardless of out of state home owners. The spread will occur because disease spreads and people move from state to state for many things, including deliveries of supplies.

I am one county away from NYC and I am NOT going to my lake house. I am staying here because (1) NY will be over it by the time it peaks in NH and (2) NH in the spring is the worst time to be in NH.


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Thanks for posting this, Tilton. I’m SHOCKED that the mainstream media hasn’t reported this!:rolleye1::rolleye1:

It is such a pleasure to read a thoughtful well-written post and not think about the writer’s politics; even if I don’t 100% agree.

I am not shocked that the righty media did. Having said that, it is good to see a different point of view from an informed academic.

Please look up the source , this new network is a far right group of wack jobs, watch a few of their reports on subjects other then the virus and you will see they are a no fact shock new people