well i guess we will get a good example soon as 21 states will eliminate the added benefit and offer a substantial bonus if they go back to work including NH

I see now….Whatever I reference constitutes “Confirmation Bias”, but whatever you post (including information from that left-wing cesspool called NPR) is not “Confirmation Bias”.

NPR is rated with a left-center bias which provides highly factual information...hardly a cesspool in comparison to the source you provided.


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Agreed and, of course, there were more sources there than just NPR.

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Holiday today?
 

Think.....today must be a day off for you because of the number of your posts on this thread. If not, what are your students up to?

Ok, so today is "senior skip day," and I've had one student all day (I teach all seniors, and they finish next week).

Interestingly, I used this thread when talking to that one student. His claim—accurately, I think—is that the current political polarization in America drives us to seek sides with our tribes rather than shared experiences and nuance.

He added that he'd recently come across an economics study that showed the correlation between unemployment wage percentages and the speed at which people return to jobs as a relationship between the job they are returning to, both in terms of pay AND emotional fulfillment. Specifically, that people who make great wages and enjoy their jobs will return EVEN IF they can "make more" with supplemental unemployment.

We finished the discussion with an appreciation of nuance and lamentation of its loss.

Good times!

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That’s fine, as far as it goes. It makes sense that people who are well paid and experience emotional fulfillment will return to their jobs. It is also possible that those who do not experience the same positive feelings toward their jobs might, but should not, opt to collect unemployment benefits for as long as they can. Now here is when the argument loses steam, at least for me: it should not be the taxpayers’ responsibility to supplement the incomes of people who CAN work but who choose not to because they can get paid for sitting on their derrières. Nobody can convince me that doing so is proper.

agree and not when there are 8.1M jobs available. most of those studies that were referenced were when most businesses were shut down in 2020 and there were far fewer jobs available. at least the hospitality business.

A couple of thoughts not being addressed on the subject:
1) Towns in the lakes region have small year round population. Today the
family unit is 0 - 1.27654897 kids. Not when I grew up, I knew of X families w/ 7-8 kids. Local shortage right there.

2) Summer help from "away" teenagers or college students. If both can not use parents/grandparents place cost of housing is now a nonstarter from the get go.

3) The no.2's above, some posters have stated the difference in pay N.H. to Mass...ok. But by staying at home and working... your w/ friends, no food bill, mom does laundry, and someone has put a plate of leftovers in the reefer for you. What is that worth per week to this age group?
Plus do whole families still spend all summer now at the lake as in the past?
If you say no, then work pool is smaller than the past.

4) As for owners looking for help, the 1st principle of capitalism, you have to spend money to make money. You go cheap on proven qualified help you do so at your own risk!

It's nihilistic (and also unfair) to respond to half a dozen citations with nothing other than "it's clear...no studies will convince me...".

You should post some real studies with real data from real researchers. Otherwise, it's just BS

Senior Skip Day?
My god these kids have been out of school for MONTHS! Why a "Skip day"?

Who Controls The Past, Controls the Future...Who Controls the Present, Controls the
 

Past...

"Studies" from Universities slavish to grants? From Facebook, Wikipedia, Twitter, and Google, which practice "Cancel-Culture"? "Shadow-Banning"?

"Rated left-center bias=highly factual information". :eek2:

It is to laugh! :laugh:

"Left-center" bias is strong. Not unlike "Full-Leftist" bias, NPR won't advise you of Tony Bobulinski and a certain laptop. 'Shame that I am forced to help pay for NPR's "facts" and "highly factual information".
https://art19.com/shows/the-dershow/...a-9a3c592868b5

I suspect it has some impact too. But I think the shortage is a combination of a lot of things as discussed by the owners of Hart’s. Crack down on immigration, attractive unemployment, nervousness still to COVID, and reassessment of life, career, school etc.

Like for example some schools didn’t let the kids go hone for spring break because that just added exposure to the schools. There might be incentives to stay on campus at some colleges for the summer.

As far as nervousness goes, we are NOT out of the woods yet until India is solved. COVID could mutate (if it hasn’t already) and the whole thing could happen all over again in a few months. All countries need to step up and help India in any way they can.

Also the dopes that won’t get vaccinated in the USA puts things at risk too.

So a lot of the population knows that it’s still potentially risky working in public and can afford to stay self locked down until it’s really over.

Another good point made in the link was cost of housing. The owners already subsidized rent BEFORE COVID hit. And we all know how sky high property is getting around the lakes. It wasn’t all college kids filling these jobs. But the ones that are not college bound can’t afford to like in the area.

Your response is Dershowitz and Carlson? Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa! Thanks for the laugh.


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And I also believe the earth is flat….:rolleye1:

Well I listened to the link you provided to the Dershow, because I generally think he is an intelligent guy, but I had to quit when he referred to the Tucker Carlton guest as "the witness". Now, maybe it was a slip of the tongue, or maybe it was a mindset. But he just blew up his credibility on this issue.

Class Dismissed...
 

It was not my intent to demonstrate "Confirmation-Bias", but thanks for doing so. :rolleye2:

the town of Moultonboro has posted summer openings for things like cemetery mowing . I Will be interested if they get any bites as this is outdoors

They will also be posting (if they have not already) two FT office positions.

Not really. My sources are news organizations, not talking heads who are pandering to their base. Nice try though.


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Wikipedia: Personalize = Assign Someone's Name to It...
 

It was not my intent to illuminate the "personalize and polarize" portion of Rule #13, but thanks for doing so.

Housing
 

It is affordable work force housing that keeps more young people from working in our tourist industry. Where will they live that is anywhere near these jobs? How will they find any childcare, much less afford it, to be anywhere near work? It is not "lazy" young people; there are plenty of willing people to work, and there will always be those who will avoid work.

Tradition
 

Probably tradition, which these kids have had very little of for the last two years; A little rebellion as they go out into the world.
:)

Maybe the answer is to not pay people who dont want to work ANYTHING! Starvation and having their smartphone shut off for non payment might be just the motivation to get their lazy asses off the couch!

My students may not have been in the building full-time all year, but they certainly worked hard. In fact, in easily the most challenging year of my 16 years (so far), we only missed one unit of my curriculum. I was very pleased with this year's classes, so, yes, a skip day to hang out with schoolmates after most were vaccinated was perfect.

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Exactly. The only housing available is people who own housing full time or have parents who own. Almost impossible to hire a kid from out of the area for a summer job. So with a small full time population, and a huge summer influx of labor demand...

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Point is make yourself more valuable, no matter what the position, no matter what the job. Im sure there are plenty of people in the waitstaff position that make minimum tips. People that walk in off the street with zero experience and a chip on their shoulders because they dont get offered a 6 figure salary are dillusional and a product of the "everyone deserves a trophy" generation...its the parents and in some cases lack of parenting that have caused these issues...prove me wrong...

Like I said, you paint everyone with the same brush. I'm 67 and I know many good parents that didn't coddle their kids. Some came out well rounded and some didn't so it's not anything the parents did wrong. You keep patting yourself on the back for being the perfect parent.[emoji3064]Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Agreed. My 11-year-old spent most of today raking and weed whacking another site here at camp and almost every senior I teach comes in Monday AM with the lamest weekend stories because they all worked them away.

Like people not returning to work because they can "make more on unemployment," there are some lazy kids, but not nearly as many as the narrative.

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interesting article in the Journal today. Northern New England ( Ver/ NH and Maine) has 3.6 job openings for every 1 job seeker.

WSJ reported yesterday that Missouri, the first state to cut additional unemployment benefits, "saw an uptick in applications." Looking at the graph (which shares the same slope as the US on the whole) and anecdotal evidence presented (interviews with two employers with mixed results), it certainly doesn't appear as clear as they make it sound, so it'll be interesting to see future reports from other states.

Side note: the governor's office website has NH unemployment as of a week ago at 2.5%. That certainly doesn't sound like a problem with people "staying on the government dole," so what gives with the "hard to find help" narrative?

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/ame...ts-11624786202

https://www.governor.nh.gov/news-and...nt-rate-nation

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Went for my yearly physical yesterday and my doctor told me he was going to retire because he couldn't get any help. He said he just couldn't work around the clock anymore like when he was younger. He said Covid has made his decision much easier.

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Unemployment numbers are a very confusing mess and not indicative of much except to watch the trend if they are increasing or declining.

But as a legitimate measure of percentage of people working or not and any organizations ability to attract and retain staff, they are virtual worthless numbers.

A local (to me) sub-pizza-sandwich shop has had a sign up for weeks offering $14 Hr starting pay for counter help, and from what I can see few takers.

Very few people I see seem interested in working in any retail or labor positions.

Lots of people wanting to rise up the ladder to manager status in little time and hold positions with titles like influencer, director, chief, ETC Etc etc,,,

Dont know anyones kids looking to become a plumber, electrician, welder, plumber, machinist, mechanic, barber/hairdresser, cook (not chef), accountant, nurse or even doctor. Its seems that business management is (and management being the key term) is what most are seeking.

After 40 years in the workforce, if I had the opportunity to go back in time and do it all over again, I would do ANYTHING but business management!

Looks like we will soon have a society of bosses and no workers, and when you need a trades person you will pay them double per hour than what you make and at the end of the day and on weekends they will be the ones with their feet up and enjoying life while the business folks will be answering emails 24 hrs a day and reviewing reports and presentations on weekends and holidays.

Not better,,,

:laugh::laugh: My grandson, just out of college, started a job in Business management just a week ago. We'll we were at a cookout on Saturday and he was getting call after call. He said I thought I was just working 9-5 M-F. :emb::emb::emb::emb:
It's unfortunate but there really aren't many jobs that are 9-5 anymore, esp when they give you a cell phone. That should be a clue right there that you are on call 24/7.

Oh! Did anyone see the Dunkin' sign in Meredith center last week? $1000 sign-on bonus! Crazy.

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And all the coffee and donuts you can eat?:D

Sure there are, but they are in specific industries and mostly labor fields.

Most factory worker are on very fixed schedules, but then so are banks and other white collar organizations, but those are usually reserved for people either willing to do labor, or or legitimately have the the higher skills and capabilities OR connections.

For the masses following each-other in the line, its a whole new ball game and one not very personally rewarding.

In this case, they are determining how many individuals in each area are collecting UE compensation.
The thought process is as the compensation amount declines, those individuals will instead seek active employment.
Since the number actually collecting is low, businesses do not expect an on-rush of applicants.

Oddly, it isn't a labor issue, it is a demand issue.