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GBGX2 07-16-2018 04:39 PM

Here is their Facebook Link
 
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Originally Posted by WINNOCTURN (Post 297904)
The Dive???

Did it ever set sail?

No other Posts since late MAY???

Winnocturn, they are posting on Facebook constantly:

https://m.facebook.com/thedivelakewinni/

GBGX2 07-19-2018 05:11 AM

The Dive has passed State Inspections!
 
https://www.facebook.com/16544150545...7583341278822/

thinkxingu 07-19-2018 05:52 AM

W. Alton sandbar Saturday. As if it's not hard enough to find a spot there already. There goes the last family sandbar on the lake. Ugh.

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joey2665 07-19-2018 06:08 AM

Their app is available in the Apple App Store by searching The Dive NH. All the features are not running yet but it’s a good tool to see the daily location to find them or in other cases avoid the crowd.


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Hillcountry 07-19-2018 12:30 PM

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They were out on the lake this morning...I snapped this on my way back from Alton Bay after fishing...this sandbar is really nice but too cool to stop this morning.

Overlake97 07-19-2018 12:44 PM

West Alton Sandbar??
 
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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298235)
W. Alton sandbar

That's the sandbar outside West Alton Marina, right?

thinkxingu 07-19-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Overlake97 (Post 298252)
That's the sandbar outside West Alton Marina, right?

Yup.

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Phantom 07-19-2018 01:20 PM

Just downloaded the App ……….. as joey points out, nothing working on it though.

App store -- "The Dive nh".

fatlazyless 07-19-2018 03:40 PM

So, what makes The Dive think the Marine Patrol will allow it to stop at rafting areas and service people/boaters/jetskis/customers while adrift with no forward movement?

All the tour boats: the Mount Washington, Sophie C, Doris E, and Winni Belle are all continuously moving along at about 20-mph or so, plus they are not looking for customers out on the water while enroute their tour.

Seems like a very wack-a-doozie business plan?

Hillcountry 07-19-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 298262)
So, what makes The Dive think the Marine Patrol will allow it to stop at rafting areas and service people/boaters/jetskis/customers while adrift with no forward movement?

All the tour boats: the Mount Washington, Sophie C, Doris E, and Winni Belle are all continuously moving along at about 20-mph or so, plus they are not looking for customers out on the water while enroute their tour.

Seems like a very wack-a-doozie business plan?

If they didn’t iron out THAT major detail, I hardly think that they would have progressed to the stage they are at now...

Outdoorsman 07-19-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 298262)
So, what makes The Dive think the Marine Patrol will allow it to stop at rafting areas and service people/boaters/jetskis/customers while adrift with no forward movement?

All the tour boats: the Mount Washington, Sophie C, Doris E, and Winni Belle are all continuously moving along at about 20-mph or so, plus they are not looking for customers out on the water while enroute their tour.

Seems like a very wack-a-doozie business plan?

I seriously doubt that the small children buying ice cream from the mail boat are swimming along at "20-mph or so" .... :laugh: (same goes for the adults making the same same purchase)

fatlazyless 07-19-2018 04:47 PM

Sophie C. - U.S. Mail boat
 
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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 298266)
I seriously doubt that the small children buying ice cream from the mail boat are swimming along at "20-mph or so" .... :laugh: (same goes for the adults making the same same purchase)

The Sophie C. is the 5th boat to serve as the U. S. Mail boat since 1892, and delivers mail to nine different islands, including Bear Island and the A.M.C. Three Mile Island from mid June to mid September. Home port is Weirs Beach, next to the Mount Washington dock; it is 76 feet long and weighs 80-tons and carries passengers who enjoy the 90-minute ride as it delivers the mail.

It sells post cards, stamps, Klondike bars, Hoodsie cups, and Good Humor bars, while tied up to an island dock delivering the mail.

Outdoorsman 07-19-2018 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 298267)
The Sophie C. is the 5th boat to serve as the U. S. Mail boat since 1892, and delivers mail to nine different islands, including Bear Island and the A.M.C. Three Mile Island from mid June to mid September. Home port is Weirs Beach, next to the Mount Washington dock; it is 76 feet long and weighs 80-tons and carries passengers who enjoy the 90-minute ride as it delivers the mail.

It sells post cards, stamps, Klondike bars, Hoodsie cups, and Good Humor bars, while tied up to an island dock delivering the mail.

My point being.... they do not ask ANYONE to swim along side the vessel to make a purchase, but you already know that so..... :rolleye2:

fatlazyless 07-19-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 298269)
My point being.... they do not ask ANYONE to swim along side the vessel to make a purchase, but you already know that so..... :rolleye2:

....not swimmers no ......but boaters, yes, they are looking for boaters to access their starboard side pickup window while out on the water, which could be while stopped and adrift, stopped and anchored, or motoring along at some unknown speed.....

None of the four tour boats already mentioned are looking to service boaters like this with a take out window while out on the water. They all move along at about 20-mph or so.

Will the Marine Patrol agree to The Dive's plan for an on-the-water, while underway, or adrift, or anchored take out service window for boaters? It is a wack-a-doozie plan!

Seaplane Pilot 07-19-2018 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 298270)
....not swimmers no ......but boaters, yes, they are looking for boaters to access their starboard side pickup window while out on the water, which could be while stopped and adrift, stopped and anchored, or motoring along at some unknown speed.....

None of the four tour boats already mentioned are looking to service boaters like this with a take out window while out on the water. They all move along at about 20-mph or so.

Will the Marine Patrol agree to The Dive's plan for an on-the-water, while underway, or adrift, or anchored take out service window for boaters? It is a wack-a-doozie plan!

Why would Marine Patrol have any jurisdiction over this food operation, other than the vessel safely requirements and inspections for a commercial vessel? They obviously had MP do the inspection and issue the ok.

Do you think MP would actually give them the all-clear on the vessel, but not tell them that once they got on the water to operate the business, they were going to shut it down? It would be kind of like the State Cops telling the local ice cream man or food truck that they can’t do business. Why can’t people just let this guy give it a go without all of the peanut gallery putting in their (useless) opinions?

This guy (or girl) has invested a lot of time and money to get to this point. At least he’s not sitting home collecting welfare, or shooting up heroin somewhere! I hope they kick ass!

Cal Coon 07-19-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot (Post 298273)
Why would Marine Patrol have any jurisdiction over this food operation, other than the vessel safely requirements and inspections for a commercial vessel? They obviously had MP do the inspection and issue the ok.

Do you think MP would actually give them the all-clear on the vessel, but not tell them that once they got on the water to operate the business, they were going to shut it down? It would be kind of like the State Cops telling the local ice cream man or food truck that they can’t do business. Why can’t people just let this guy give it a go without all of the peanut gallery putting in their (useless) opinions?

This guy (or girl) has invested a lot of time and money to get to this point. At least he’s not sitting home collecting welfare, or shooting up heroin somewhere! I hope they kick ass!

Amen! Definitely no shortage of (negative) armchair quarterbacks out there...

AC2717 07-20-2018 07:46 AM

Easy answer:
At headway speed or no wake speed, you can be well within 150 feet of another boat or object and since you are not tying off, there is no rafting issues

jazzman 07-20-2018 07:50 AM

Seems like The Dive will have to anchor. It's one big sail

The Real BigGuy 07-20-2018 08:07 AM

I thought an earlier picture showed it with “spuds” fore and aft for shallow water stability/“anchoring”. Maybe they were just part of the original barge and came off during construction.


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ApS 07-20-2018 08:28 AM

This "Better Idea" Faces a Short Season...
 
Reading the news-aggregating websites, I'm seeing a lot of incidental advertising for waterborne group activities. (Cruising, weddings, etc.) Presently, Google-ads are displaying Maine schooners and medium-sized cruise boats plying the Hawaiian island of Maui. :look:

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Originally Posted by jazzman (Post 298305)
Seems like The Dive will have to anchor. It's one big sail

"The Dive" crew is going to learn a lot about sailing. ;)


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Originally Posted by Dave R (Post 294624)
The segue was obvious to me: Floating restaurant begets hiking complaint, hiking complaint begets illegal immigration rant. Obvious, no? :D Anyway, my thoughts: I doubt someone would go to the trouble of building this if they were unable to get permits to use it as intended. It's not my scene, but I think it's pretty neat and I hope it's successful. It's a clever way to open a boat-to restaurant without needing to buy expensive real estate. For those that are concerned about the environmental impact should consider how this thing will NOT require more than a dock's width of waterfront property and won't require a paved parking lot right next to the lake. Draft will be extremely shallow. There's just not that much mass: surface area there and it likely has an utterly flat hull. It will blend nicely with the uglier homes on the lake, not so much the boats, but it will look better than some of them.
I don't think the post anchors will exclude it from overnight mooring laws and I'd be willing to bet it will return to a dock or mooring every night. Considering where it's being built and the slow cruising speed, I suspect it will typically be a short trip...

Any "post anchors" (called "spuds") appearing in earlier photos, apparently were attached to something adjacent, but I think they should have been equipped with at least one. :confused:

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fatlazyless 07-20-2018 08:44 AM

Is it a houseboat?
 
Yes, it is a boat, and yes, it does look like a house, but is it a house boat?

Who knows ...... only the NH Marine Patrol really knows, obviously, but just maybe it qualifies to be considered a houseboat at least on a very temporary basis.....like a one night anchor back in a cove somewhere.....after a busy busy night ...... with one or more sleeping bags unrolled across the deck, or on top of a sitting bench, or somewhere ..... like, in the steering room .......aka......the pilot room?

270-A:1 Definitions: Use of houseboats

"Houseboat" means any ship, boat, raft, float, catamaran or marine craft of any description upon or within which are located sleeping and toilet facilities, regardless of whether such facilities are of a permanent or temporary nature.

Does that mean that it needs to be docked, or moored, every night, as opposed to remaining anchored out on the big water, somewhere, under the stars on the big beautiful blue big lake, from April to November?

Oh well, Ming Cove in Alton, or wherever the heck it is, is a long, long, long way from south Bear Island, so's it's probably not gonna be my problem .... big money risk .....big money reward .... will be interesting to see what happens .....where it goes .....what's the plan etc ....time will tell?

strum 07-20-2018 09:50 AM

looks Like two spuds on starboard side..

strum 07-20-2018 09:53 AM

looks like they are on the port side .

JADAQ 07-23-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 298313)
Yes, it is a boat, and yes, it does look like a house, but is it a house boat?

Who knows ...... only the NH Marine Patrol really knows, obviously, but just maybe it qualifies to be considered a houseboat at least on a very temporary basis.....like a one night anchor back in a cove somewhere.....after a busy busy night ...... with one or more sleeping bags unrolled across the deck, or on top of a sitting bench, or somewhere ..... like, in the steering room .......aka......the pilot room?

270-A:1 Definitions: Use of houseboats

"Houseboat" means any ship, boat, raft, float, catamaran or marine craft of any description upon or within which are located sleeping and toilet facilities, regardless of whether such facilities are of a permanent or temporary nature.

Does that mean that it needs to be docked, or moored, every night, as opposed to remaining anchored out on the big water, somewhere, under the stars on the big beautiful blue big lake, from April to November?

Oh well, Ming Cove in Alton, or wherever the heck it is, is a long, long, long way from south Bear Island, so's it's probably not gonna be my problem .... big money risk .....big money reward .... will be interesting to see what happens .....where it goes .....what's the plan etc ....time will tell?

Seriously, how do you think this crap up anyway?

Phantom 07-23-2018 01:13 PM

JADAQ - I see you've only been a member for two years ………… trust me ( and my 13 years on this Forum)- FLL does NOT "think this stuff up" ………………. it flows quite naturally from his keyboard... :D :D :laugh: :laugh:

No thought required !

thinkxingu 07-23-2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298552)
JADAQ - I see you've only been a member for two years ………… trust me ( and my 13 years on this Forum)- FLL does NOT "think this stuff up" ………………. it flows quite naturally from his keyboard... :D :D [emoji23] [emoji23]

No thought required !

I equate it to a very lucky ape pounding on a keyboard.

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GBGX2 07-25-2018 08:26 AM

The Dive is ALIVE !
 
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See more here:

https://www.facebook.com/thedivelake...type=3&theater

Hillcountry 07-25-2018 09:15 AM

Cool, if you're into this sort of thing...I would rather be on my own boat enjoying the lake on my terms...I wish them luck!

dippasan 07-25-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 298250)
They were out on the lake this morning...I snapped this on my way back from Alton Bay after fishing...this sandbar is really nice but too cool to stop this morning.

It's a floating eye sore.
And Like Gump said "that's all I got ta say 'bout that

joey2665 07-25-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dippasan (Post 298670)
It's a floating eye sore.
And Like Gump said "that's all I got ta say 'bout that

I don't think it is an eye sore but I also think they need to move around the lake out of respect for the residents of Sleepers.

Hopefully for your sake they are just staying near WOW for a test period then will start alternating locations

noreast 07-25-2018 01:30 PM

I think the old men with there shirts off is an eye sore, but the boat looks pretty good.

Phantom 07-25-2018 01:43 PM

I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.



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joey2665 07-25-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298684)
I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been.

Not sure about the law, but I have seen many hop off their boat at Town Docks and eat with no shoes on at the restaurant

Phantom 07-25-2018 01:49 PM

I was actually thinking of Town Docks when I wrote the above -- I believe they have a sign for shirts & shoes must be worn


Something witty along the lines of NO Shirt, No Shoes , No Service.

Outdoorsman 07-25-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298684)
I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.

I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

tis 07-25-2018 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 298689)
I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

I wondered the same thing, but did see somebody say they went on it. I think his name was Ryan?

Phantom 07-25-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 298689)
I am not sure that using a forum with 30-50 regular posters is the best benchmark for determining any aspect of The Dive's success or failure. Plus, it has only been a week or two.

Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

joey2665 07-25-2018 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298692)
Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

Not sure I understand your post where you say "they are not open commercially" and photos are "staged". They have been at Smalls Cove all week except today according to their Facebook page and posts to that page with patrons visiting the vessel. Am I missing something? Honest question

ishoot308 07-25-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298692)
Phantom is Befuddled
My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

I'm not sure what you mean by the Dive is not open for business commercially?? Saw them selling food and drink last weekend at West Alton Sandbar as well as this week...

Pics on their facebook page have not been staged. Friends of mine were on it very recently and their picture showed up on their facebook page.

Dan

Phantom 07-25-2018 03:21 PM

My totally BAD !

Last I knew they went on their shakedown cruze and that was it ---

Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational

Withdraw all those comment -- except wishing them success.


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