Seriously! Nice comparison. Did you have to think long and hard to come up with the comparatives?[emoji107]


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I also don't like cancer. Or The Dive.

Actually, my only issue with The Dive is when it is not, as I would define, neighborly. Anchoring out all day, every day in one place infringed on people's use of that resource.

The hot dog cart in a state park analogy is apt--I made a similar point a year or so ago.

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Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!

I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.

On the move heading south

West Alton today. Hideous, and takes up a LOT of room. It appeared to have customers, though, so clearly some people like it. At least we were able to set up far away from it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e6043033ec.jpg

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The Dive
 

Thankfully the lake is large enough that anybody who wishes to not see the Dive or be near it can simply go elsewhere. Plenty of room...many calm coves. Kind of like turning the channel on the TV if you don't like a show.

For lakefront owners who complain about it being so busy or people anchoring in front of their property - there is always the option to sell your Winni property and buy a place on Squam or Winnisquam that may better suit your speed.

Not being disrespectful - just pointing out what I see as viable options for those who don't like the Dive or how busy the lake is nowadays.

It's a busy lake - we are all lucky to be here and able to enjoy it.

:)

And thank you for that statement.

Sort of--

Good points on it being a big/busy lake and all of us being lucky. But the flip side is that all of us should be mindful of not too having too much impact on others, just in terms of manners. This Dive skeptic is not so much concerned about one Dive as about the potential for a dozen more. And that would make the lake feel smaller and the chances of finding that smaller cove more remote.

Also, I have not looked recently, but at any given time there are typically no more than a handful of properties available on all of Squam, and their prices are stratospheric, and I'm not sure many of us would think of Winnisquam as a rough equivalent to Winnipesaukee. So these are not realistic alternatives.

The Dive
 

Doubtful there would be a market for a dozen more like the Dive. :)

It's a big lake - but I don't see the traffic for another floating bar/restaurant that operates for only 3 months of the year. Maybe where it's warm all year round...but not NH.

Time will tell if the Dive makes enough to stay afloat.

This just in...

It will be there tomorrow, July 5th all day. Its supposed to tie up to Big Pier wind depending.
Feel bad for the camps right there. Its supposed to be a LSP only thing but I'm curious how they are going to stop boats from anchoring in front of the park?

Nice article about the Dive!!!

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/new-...restaurant-nh/


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Looking at the overhead picture of that cluster**** at the sand bar is enough to keep me far, far, away. :eek:

Looks like it needs a 1,000 gal + holding tank with overnight pump out service:D

I do not think so at all. I believe if we were all a bit younger it would be a regular hang out for us. Not my thing now but 15 years ago absolutely.

It's not for me, but feel free to enjoy it
 

I prefer to get away from the crowds when I'm at the Lake, hence sandbars - and the Dive - are not my cup of tea. For those of you who find it fun, enjoy!

That's exactly the reason I would stay far away! I probably would visit if I was younger but I would never be a regular there at any age. Just not what I go to the lake for.

I doubt everyone is using the bathroom facilities. It's pretty nasty if you really think about it. You're swimming around in pee!

[emoji106][emoji106] but maybe 30 (or 40) years ago


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The Braun Bay area would be about 500,000 cubic feet of water area (~800'x200'x3' deep).

There are 7.48 gallons of water in 1 ft^3.

Thus there is over 3.7 million gallons of water in the Braun Bay area alone.

Let's assume you have 1,000 people there, and they each pee .5 gallons over the course of the day, that 500 gallons / 3.7M gallons, or a diluted amount of .013% pee.

That is of course not accounting for any additional dilution caused from currents through the area (natural, or just caused by boat movement).

Meh, not really in my Top 10 list of concerns about a sandbar.

You would conclude that but they close beaches down for duck itch and I think there are far fewer ducks going in the water around the beaches than what's going on at that sandbar.
But that's where we have a difference of opinion.
If you're OK with it then have at it, but keep your mouth closed. :D I'll pass.

They should rename Braun Bay “Lake Titticacapeepee”

I think my timeline is more like 25 years ago - at least that's when I was hanging around Braun Bay and West Alton as a regular. I don't care how much dilution there is, now I call them Urination Cove :D Guess I'm an old fart now but have at it if that's what you like. It's all good

You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOhfGezdcXU

Petition to help the Dive stay at the pier after several complaints by a non resident has created issues.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https...laZuNm9_On&s=1


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Joey From New York,

Let's not get hung up on complainant being a "nonresident" from Florida (who obviously is spending the whole Summer on the lake).

FlyingScot From Massachusetts

The Dive!
 

If you know the property like I do then you know it is not occupied by the owner it is a rental property so they are NOT spending any time at the lake.

Also not hung up on it just quoted the article


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The "complainer" is not the same person who posted here a few weeks back about his view? I gotta think there is more than one person with an issue, given its orientation?

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I lived 40 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, (family since 1892), the property tax went through the roof! I decided to sell the property on The Broad and moved to Lake Winnisquam. Peace at last and affordable. Personally Lake Winnisquam is a better retirement alternative and far better for boating on weekends than Winnipesaukee. Yes, off season, it can't hold a candle to the big lake, but year round Winnisquam has more value.

The 'complainer' is in one of those cottages near the Pier, a Florida native, who thinks he own the lake! When he bought the property he must realize he is in a commercial zone, and the lake is for the enjoyment of all, as a lakefront owner I realize this and I don't go fuming if someone casually drove by my property!
BTW, when The Dive settled in, he is far enough away that his view is not effected at all! He's the one been complaining about Biketember Fest, Wake the Lake and the soon to be famous Blues Fest! I think he should start thinking about moving, perhaps to the 'boros?!?!?!?!

The petition said he is stopping gas to 3 businesses. How is this possible? Sounds like Russia stopping gas to some Eastern European countries.


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I had a cottage in Alton Bay on Winni back in the 70's then sold that and built a place on Winnisquam in the 80's.
I loved Winnisquam and looked for another place to buy there but we found a place on Waukewan, which we fell in love with. We've been there 5 years now and I don't think I would ever go back to Winni.
If something came available on Winnisquam in the town of Meredith that was reasonable I would consider it. But I was in Sanbornton and the taxes, just like Laconia, are outrageous, no thanks!
My brother inlaw has a place in Sanbornton with no beach rights, 1/2 the size of my house, 1/2 the size of my land and pays double what I pay in taxes in Meredith.

I've never been on Winnisquam--are there ports/public docks like Winni? Sandbars?

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the dive
 

comment for Joey I am sorry but you are wrong about the complainers renting their property that the Dive is almost directly in front of they are there almost everyday throughout the year.. although not permanent.The Dive is a major nuisance and unlike what they say their music is NOT ambient and it starts early in the morning and continues all day non stop especially on weekends when you would like to enjoy your property with friends but cant because of a huge billboard with noise overlooking you all day. Imagine paying huge taxes for waterfront property and being able to work from home and having to shut your windows because of for lack of a better word raucous behavior untilpast midnight I think not. The Dive does NOT belong in a residential area but where they claim they were going to be on the lake and hopefully they can see that they affect many people and can try to become good neighbors to all and correct their errors

There is a restaurant/ dock at the bridge on the right as you head toward Laconia. On the opposite side there is a popular sandbar.

I’m sorry I disagree and I also own in the area. As long at the Dive is not breaking any law regarding noise or the location of its mooring then it has every right to be at its location at the pier. You may not like it but as long as they are law abiding then there is not much you can do other than petition to the City.

Note the history of this location has always been entrainment drive way back to the dances and concerts held at the Winnipesaukee Gardens.


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Everyone loves the concept until it's in their back yard, or in this case, front yard. I don't blame them at all for complaining.

There are a couple of private business docks (small docks), one at the Mosquito Bridge store and one at the Lobster Connection. No public “3 hour” docks that I know of. There is a couple of sand bars and one loon sanctuary. There are not many “hazards” like rocks anywhere on the lake. I believe there are 2 marinas on Winnisquam...Winnisquam Marine (same owner as Winni Marine on the channel) and one on the Winnipesaukee River across from the state boat ramps.
Nice lake but the “destinations” are not there like on the big lake.

Thanks! I think we're spoiled being in the north of Winni, as we've got enough No Wake areas to chill and with a (short enough) ride, we can be to the "Big Lake."

Cheers, and back to our regularly scheduled debate about The Dive's presence at The Weirs pier.

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I have been thinking the same thing as I have been reading these comments.