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joey2665 07-25-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298698)
My totally BAD !

Last I knew they went on their shakedown cruze and that was it ---

Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational

Withdraw all those comment -- except wishing them success.

LOL no worries, honestly thought I may be missing something :eek:

noreast 07-25-2018 04:07 PM

I think if the pics were staged the "talent" would be of a higher caliber?

Outdoorsman 07-25-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298698)
My totally BAD !


Need to scold my daughter who is at WAM for not telling me they were now operational.

NAH, She may not have known it was operational. Shame on those that make disparaging comments without the same knowledge ;):look:

thinkxingu 07-25-2018 07:06 PM

If that's the site I'll see when visiting, I'm even less inclined to patronize The Dive. Ugh, gross. It's like going to a nude beach--it's never the good stuff you see. Put a shirt and shoes on, and keep your graying chest hair out of my margarita.

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RUGMAN 07-25-2018 07:14 PM

Some of You guys crack me up, Guess you have never been to Naswa, Hampton Beach,Salisbury Beach or any beach for that matter.. if you are at the beach, everyone walks around in bathing suit, no shoes and eats and drinks, not sure what the big deal is. Give the Dive a chance.

Cal Coon 07-25-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RUGMAN (Post 298719)
Some of You guys crack me up, Guess you have never been to Naswa, Hampton Beach,Salisbury Beach or any beach for that matter.. if you are at the beach, everyone walks around in bathing suit, no shoes and eats and drinks, not sure what the big deal is. Give the Dive a chance.

Prima - donna's, (unfortunately) no shortage of them in this society, and on this forum...

Hillcountry 07-25-2018 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298717)
If that's the site I'll see when visiting, I'm even less inclined to patronize The Dive. Ugh, gross. It's like going to a nude beach--it's never the good stuff you see. Put a shirt and shoes on, and keep your graying chest hair out of my margarita.

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I agree! But I wouldn’t patronize the dive because of that scene...I would stay away so that no one was grossed out by me! :D
Back hair and bunions are not everyone’s cup o’ tea!

thinkxingu 07-25-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal Coon (Post 298723)
Prima - donna's, (unfortunately) no shortage of them in this society, and on this forum...

Yeah, that's it--prima donnas. There's a fine line between walking the beach without shirt and shoes and sitting at a restaurant/bar table--which is why every restaurant (and store?) has the no shirt, no shoes, no service expectation.

If not wanting Vinnie's gynecomastic curlies in my face (or sandwich) makes me a prima donna, I'll gladly sport the moniker.

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betterthanbacon 07-25-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298684)
I am not bashing the Dive-- I think it is a great adventure and wish them luck and hope it is long term successful after all their expense. It should be considered a welcome addition to the Lake whether you plan try it out or find it "not your style"

The one thing the recent picture raised in my mind -- as a NH Health code - aren't shoes suppose to be worn where food is being served ?

It is a legit question of mine.

I am not sure the photo posted was legit customers or Staged photo as all the prior photo's have been. I suspect staged as not a sole has come out and said they've been aboard as yet.

The Nasswa promotes no shoes and shirts.
When you dock the dock hands tell you.
NO SHOES
NO SHIRTS
NO PROBLEM

Reilly 07-26-2018 04:18 AM

Staged
 
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Originally Posted by Phantom (Post 298692)
Phantom is Befuddled

Where did I raise any questions of Success or failure based on forum members ? In my opening remark - I simply wished the new owners "Best of Luck" and the Lake as a whole should embrace the new venture whether its your cup of tea or not.

My post was a legit question about the need for shoes (and/or shirts) to be worn in an eating establishment in NH …………. period the end -- whether the Dive or Patrick's Pub -- irrelevant of location


My comment on the pic being Staged, as you should know, the Dive is not yet OPEN for business commercially as of this date and all photographs till now have been staged (and I am NOT saying that is bad either). The point being if NH law requires, at minimum, shoes be worn then they oooops'd in the photo! which is what brought the question to mind in the first place (barefoot patrons).

Not sure about being staged but no one on board seems to have food or a drink not much money being made

Cal Coon 07-26-2018 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298727)
Yeah, that's it--prima donnas. There's a fine line between walking the beach without shirt and shoes and sitting at a restaurant/bar table--which is why every restaurant (and store?) has the no shirt, no shoes, no service expectation.

If not wanting Vinnie's gynecomastic curlies in my face (or sandwich) makes me a prima donna, I'll gladly sport the moniker.

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Have you ever taken a walk to the "back" of your favorite restaurant where no one ever sees??? I realize there are "codes" they have to live by, but it's usually just on the day the inspector is coming! Do you carry a bottle of hand sanitizer around in your purse??? Although I will admit that I try to avoid "public" bathrooms. Only use them as a "last resort" (which is usually in the city) and thankfully I don't spend much time in the city. I would rather go outside than use a public bathroom. Much easier when you are surrounded by woods than buildings...

Seaplane Pilot 07-26-2018 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298727)
Yeah, that's it--prima donnas. There's a fine line between walking the beach without shirt and shoes and sitting at a restaurant/bar table--which is why every restaurant (and store?) has the no shirt, no shoes, no service expectation.

If not wanting Vinnie's gynecomastic curlies in my face (or sandwich) makes me a prima donna, I'll gladly sport the moniker.

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Isn't calling these guys "Vinnie" kinda stereotyping? Besides, I would much rather be high and dry with the risk of a few flying chest hairs, than hanging out in the water with 100's of people disposing of their beer...:cheers:

thinkxingu 07-26-2018 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot (Post 298752)
I would much rather be high and dry with the risk of a few flying chest hairs, than hanging out in the water with 100's of people disposing of their beer...:cheers:

Fair point!

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Outdoorsman 07-26-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal Coon (Post 298736)
Have you ever taken a walk to the "back" of your favorite restaurant where no one ever sees??? I realize there are "codes" they have to live by, but it's usually just on the day the inspector is coming!

I can not say for sure, but I would be VERY surprised if any restaurant "knew when inspectors were coming". At least I hope they don't . :confused:

Call of the Isle 07-28-2018 08:15 AM

Our daughter & son-in-law took a jet ski over to The Dive yesterday. Boats anchored & tied up all around it. They had to swim to get to it. Upstairs was a nice lounge area with couches, TV, fire pit. There’s an app (The Dive NH) for ordering drive-thru food. Nice variety, expensive as you’d imagine.
They didn’t stay long as “parking” was an issue (quite crowded, so there’s lots who will try it out.) This was on a Friday afternoon, too. She noted that there was a good amount of oil in the water; she had to clean it from her PFD later.
Wondering what neighbors think of it...


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loonguy 07-28-2018 08:32 AM

"Wondering what neighbors think of it..."


This is a very polite way of saying it sure looks like a public nuisance to me, and I agree. Do they change the location daily, or are the unfortunate neighbors stuck with this every day?

joey2665 07-28-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by loonguy (Post 298883)
"Wondering what neighbors think of it..."


This is a very polite way of saying it sure looks like a public nuisance to me, and I agree. Do they change the location daily, or are the unfortunate neighbors stuck with this every day?

That was my question. Although I think I will enjoy it on occasion, I do not think they should be in the same location everyday as it can be an issue for neighbors. Hopefully they will venture past Smalls Cove soon

thinkxingu 07-29-2018 06:22 AM

The sandbar there isn't very big--anybody estimate how this affects anchoring? I'm assuming the same rules apply, so I'm thinking it displaces a lot of potential visitors. We were planning on heading over today, but it's hard enough to find a spot already.

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joey2665 07-29-2018 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298925)
The sandbar there isn't very big--anybody estimate how this affects anchoring? I'm assuming the same rules apply, so I'm thinking it displaces a lot of potential visitors. We were planning on heading over today, but it's hard enough to find a spot already.

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According to their app they will be at Smalls Cove again today 7/29. Time TBD.


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Hillcountry 07-29-2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 298925)
The sandbar there isn't very big--anybody estimate how this affects anchoring? I'm assuming the same rules apply, so I'm thinking it displaces a lot of potential visitors. We were planning on heading over today, but it's hard enough to find a spot already.

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Like anything else “worthwhile doing” nowadays, you have to go early, stake out a spot, and try to enjoy while everyone else is doing the same thing!

upthesaukee 07-29-2018 07:24 AM

Minimal problem
 
It's a minimal problem, and if the boaters get crowded up, The Dive could offer the MP a coffee and donut, and all week be fine. :cool::laugh:

Dave

Biggd 07-29-2018 08:48 AM

I know I wouldn't be too happy if this thing was sitting out in front of my waterfront every day. Personally I dob't see how they allow this monstrosity on the lake but that's just my opinion.

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rsmlp 07-29-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 298935)
I know I wouldn't be too happy if this thing was sitting out in front of my waterfront every day. Personally I dob't see how they allow this monstrosity on the lake but that's just my opinion.

Total agreement. Eyesore. That said, doubt there's much that can be done about it.

thinkxingu 07-29-2018 09:49 AM

Awesome.
^ sarcasm

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FlyingScot 07-29-2018 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmlp (Post 298939)
Total agreement. Eyesore. That said, doubt there's much that can be done about it.

Eyesore, earsore, oil-leak-sore.

I'm not sure there's nothing that can be done. Based on the reports in this thread, I'd bet neighbors are already working mighty hard to find state or local laws to squeeze these guys.

joey2665 07-29-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 298948)
Eyesore, earsore, oil-leak-sore.



I'm not sure there's nothing that can be done. Based on the reports in this thread, I'd bet neighbors are already working mighty hard to find state or local laws to squeeze these guys.

Season is short. If they just move to different locations on a daily basis I think everyone would be happy.


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Outdoorsman 07-29-2018 12:16 PM

They have been in operation for ~2 weeks and already the NIMBY people are rising to the surface. :rolleye2::(

FlyingScot 07-29-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 298950)
Season is short. If they just move to different locations on a daily basis I think everyone would be happy.


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Everyone except for the people with homes near wherever they happen to be on a given day. I do not see why the novelty of being able to buy a hamburger from a boat should take precedence over others' more peaceful enjoyment.

And with respect to the NIMBY comment, The Dive is not in my backyard, but I am sympathetic to those facing it.

Outdoorsman 07-29-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 298957)
Everyone except for the people with homes near wherever they happen to be on a given day. I do not see why the novelty of being able to buy a hamburger from a boat should take precedence over others' more peaceful enjoyment.

And with respect to the NIMBY comment, The Dive is not in my backyard, but I am sympathetic to those facing it.


Hence the problem...

This is a NEW HAMPSHIRE business. It faced, AND WAS GRANTED, many NEW HAMPSHIRE LICENSES (Food License granted, Alcohol License granted, MP (or coast guard) signed off on their business model.

Biggd 07-29-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 298957)
Everyone except for the people with homes near wherever they happen to be on a given day. I do not see why the novelty of being able to buy a hamburger from a boat should take precedence over others' more peaceful enjoyment.

And with respect to the NIMBY comment, The Dive is not in my backyard, but I am sympathetic to those facing it.

I agee whole heartedly. I don't have to look at it but many people that own their own waterfront property do. Like anything else on the water, if there are too many complaints then the licences won't get renewed. The big lake is just turning into a money pit now. I always thought I would search for another place on Winni but over the past few years I'm happy to be on a quieter and safer lake Waukewan. I put my boat in Winni once a year on father's day weekend when I have a bunch of old friends up and it's crazy out on the water then.
After that it goes in Waukewan for the season and we chill.

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Momo 07-29-2018 07:19 PM

The DIVE
 
I am happy everyone gets to enjoy our beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee. However, people who own lakefront property pay a “view tax”. Will there be a rebate for those who have to look at The DIVE day and night? And speaking of night... what about their ridiculous rotating light pole which looks like Vegas?
Viva Las Winnipesaukee....

Biggd 07-29-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Momo (Post 298982)
I am happy everyone gets to enjoy our beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee. However, people who own lakefront property pay a “view tax”. Will there be a rebate for those who have to look at The DIVE day and night? And speaking of night... what about their ridiculous rotating light pole which looks like Vegas?
Viva Las Winnipesaukee....

Do they have pole dancers?:D

TiltonBB 07-30-2018 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Momo (Post 298982)
I am happy everyone gets to enjoy our beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee. However, people who own lakefront property pay a “view tax”.

Hopefully you were kidding. People often state this or claim there is a "waterfront tax". There is no "view tax" or "waterfront tax" in any community on the lake.

The Real BigGuy 07-30-2018 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 298990)
Hopefully you were kidding. People often state this or claim there is a "waterfront tax". There is no "view tax" or "waterfront tax" in any community on the lake.

Not officially.


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Biggd 07-30-2018 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 298990)
Hopefully you were kidding. People often state this or claim there is a "waterfront tax". There is no "view tax" or "waterfront tax" in any community on the lake.

It's not written in as a view tax but when they come to your house to reassess, the view is taken to account in the value of your property just as it does when a realtor comes out to appraise it. Obviously homes that have an extraordinary view are worth more, whether it be a view of the lake or a mountain top view.

joey2665 07-30-2018 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 298990)
Hopefully you were kidding. People often state this or claim there is a "waterfront tax". There is no "view tax" or "waterfront tax" in any community on the lake.

Tilton you are absolutely correct. This is a common misnomer, however towns tend to be extremely liberal in the assessment values when there is Lake front or lake view property.


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Seaplane Pilot 07-30-2018 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 298990)
Hopefully you were kidding. People often state this or claim there is a "waterfront tax". There is no "view tax" or "waterfront tax" in any community on the lake.

But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck! A simple review of the tax card of any property with waterfront and / or “views” will clearly show that these significantly add to the assessed value of said property.

noreast 07-30-2018 06:16 AM

I've haven't heard anyone complain about the value when they sell.

tis 07-30-2018 06:24 AM

That's not exactly true. For a while and maybe still they did put right on the tax card extra for the "view". In the old days you were taxed more for a view but it didn't get "spelled" out. That is why so many people got very upset in recent years, when they realized they were actually paying for their view.

joey2665 07-30-2018 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 298997)
That's not exactly true. For a while and maybe still they did put right on the tax card extra for the "view". In the old days you were taxed more for a view but it didn't get "spelled" out. That is why so many people got very upset in recent years, when they realized they were actually paying for their view.

I can tell you there is no “view tax” in Laconia. I have bills for two properties, one with and one without and the rates are identical.


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