Sounds like fun.:rolleye1:

I'm thinking of becoming a Mantus traveling salesman. I could've sold 5 or 6 today so people could sell their souls at The Dive.

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..... anchors away!
 

For $23.74 the Gilford Walmart has a 15-lb anchor, named a river anchor, that is coated with black vinyi and has three large prongs ...... is basically a mushroom style anchor with three prongs designed to claw into the lake bottom, and these work good on both rocky and sandy lake bottoms.

For about $50, the Walmart website has a similar design anchor that weighs 30-lbs which is probably the maximum weight for an anchor to be removed by muscle power, without an electric winch.

Have to wonder if one of these 30-lb three prong anchors and 100' of 3/4" line would be able to hold The Dive, a 22'x62' barge, in place in water that's about 15-20' deep?

....... anchors away ....... and bottoms up ...... here's to this anchor holding The Dive barge in place! ..... otherwise just aim for the rocks ..... and think positive thoughts!

Perhaps you should have lifted their ineffective anchor and set their boat adrift toward the deeper water...no excuse for partying while your boat is unattended and unstable. Or get some really sticky stickers and slap one on their boat somewhere obvious saying “ANCHORING BASICS...LEARN THEM!”

Perhaps as an incentive for looking into the Mantus anchor you could give out free Bibles To help these folks save their souls before entering the den of iniquity at the dive.

I actually like helping people at sandbars--I remember my first time visiting one and how much easier it was when people jumped in to lend a hand.

You're right, though--there's a difference between needing a hand and leaving to let others deal with your mess.

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You must have watched the series Ozark's on Net Flix. :D What's in those bibles. :emb::emb::emb::emb:

Do you work at, live at or have large amounts of stock in Walmart? Just curious..

It's just closer to his house than "Big Lot's" :D :D :laugh: :laugh:

That sandbar is terrible...we love it during the week but never on the weekends...too busy at the channel, way too much boat chop, steep drop offs and soft sand...fts...

:D:D LMAO at that one, very funny.

Inside at least one row of boats, it calms down a bit and there's no drop-off. We like that there's much less detritus than the other sandbars, the depth is consistent, and, most of all, it's not loud or obnoxious like Braun Bay. It's also the closest sandbar to us.

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In biology, detritus is dead particulate organic material. It typically includes the bodies or fragments of dead organisms as well as fecal material. Icky!:eek:

A new bay?
 

"Bain Bay"????.......There we have it!

No, somehow in the past Wal-Mart got "imprinted" in his noggin and he can't get rid of it.

Over and over ... "Wal-Mart ... Wal-Mart."

Just saying those words must soothe his soul.

It takes all kinds.

local knowledge
 

Sanders Bay or Saunders Bay? Brain Bay or Braun Bay? All local knowledge.

.... needs a site plan amendment.
 

"Laconia officials say the floating restaurant needs a site plan amendment" (google that) in today's July 23 Union Leader.

Citing the spuds down site of The Dive for noise and blocking the view for residents on nearby Simpson Ave, The Dive could maybe get relocated to the other side of the large Pier building as a way to mitigate the noise and view issues for the neighbors.

It would probably be a better spot for attracting customers just because it would be much more visible from the boardwalk and the road if moved to the inside of the Winni Pier, between the Mount Washington cruise ship and the Pier. Isn't that the spot where the Winnipesaukee Queen, a two masted 48' sailboat used to dock in between 90-minute sailing cruises out to Mark Island and back.

The Dive!
 

See the link for the article below:

https://www.unionleader.com/news/pol...13829508d.html

Two issues with the article: 1) this is their 1st season at the pier not there second 2) in my opinion and I pass by the area frequently as a keep my boat close by, I do not believe that the current location of the Dive is a safety hazard to other boats navigating the area near the pier.


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Curious Bear 🐻
 

As the Dive passed by East Bear Island on its return to the Weirs this evening, I wondered :

Is the Dive required to have PFDs for patrons when at its location at Braun Bay, etc.?

Are there any patrons aboard when she travels? ⚓️

No patrons are aboard as it travels to and from the pier and it’s chosen sand bar. However they to rent it out for chatter. Since it has been inspected and approved by the MP I’m sure it has PFDs for each passenger.

As far at patrons at the sand bars I’m not sure if they are required to have a PFD for each person since the spuds are down but it is a good question.


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The Dive has enough life jackets for guests and crew on board at all times. No worries there.

Woodsy

In the long distant past when I was a commercial captain, the boat inspection required a PFD on board for the listed capacity of the vessel. If the capacity was 150, you had to show 150 PFD's. If you didn't meet the standard, the vessel failed inspection.

So can those who have to look at the dive get a rebate on their “view tax”? This was not here when most people bought their properties and were assessed. Maybe they can start a “petition” similar to the people who want to keep it.

First of all it is legally moored at the pier, secondly it is not blocking their entire view only a small portion, during the summer it is not at the dock all day it travels to sandbars and in the off season it is not there at all. So over the course of the tax year how long is the small amount on blocked view really an issue probably less than 5% of the time.

There is no such thing as a view tax. If people feel that the value of their property has declined for any reason they are entitled to apply for an abatement.

This very well may be true but if I owned an affected property that has a direct view of this, and were placing it on the market for sale, then I wouldn't want it shown while "The Dive" was moored in my direct view.

The buyer would likely walk away.

A great way to kill a potential sale or rental.

True but you may own the property but you do not own the lake.


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..... parallel parking only here!
 

Today's July 27 LaDaSun has an article with a photo: 'Weirs Beach dust-up over floating bar called The Dive' (google that) that is totally informative and incredibly well researched.

Basically, the Simpson Ave residential neighbors want The Dive to be moved to the other side of the large Pier building, close to the 220' Mount Washington cruise ship, while The Dive owners want it to remain in its' existing spot.

Here's another outcome that wasn't mentioned: simply turn the barge sideways so it is parallel parked/docked up against the Pier. At 22' wide x 62' long x 22' high with the awning, turning it sideways would reduce the silhouette from 22' high x 66' long down to a silhouette of 22' high x 22' wide which is 1/3 the size ..... simply by parallel parking .... a big difference.

Who knows, but if and when Flightcraft (landlord) seeks approval for their required amended site plan with the https://www.laconianh.gov/469/Planning-Board on September 3, it could be an easier go with the big barge parked parallel to the dock as opposed to adjacent, as it now is, which is basically a 22' high x 62' long wall that blocks the neighbor's long time held and cherished Winnipesaukee big money, water view.

How's that for a solution!

By parallel parking like this, basically everyone; Flightcraft (landlord), The Dive (tenant), & the neighbors (residential abuttors) should all be unhappy with the end result, all except for the nearby Mount Washington cruise ship which is the biggest fish in the lake. Seems that having all parties involved being dissatisfied with the result could be the best decision where everyone loses a little.

I think the issue is that it needs spuds down to "dock" nose in to the dock. This isn't exactly a normal docking situation and it looks like that is what Laconia is objecting to. Yes the owners of those properties knew they were next to a commercial dock. There is no way they would have envisioned a floating bar docking in that manner by their property.

True, but it is a commercial dock as you said and has been for decade but I do agree that spuds down creates a new unique twist


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Would spuds down create a dock, and a dock extension permit be needed ?

This could go on for ever, lol

Marketing 101 or VRBO
 

Reserve now before 2020 rate increase. Walk to new floating 4 star bar and grill. Enjoy their music from your deck. This vessel cruises, so limited opportunity to participate.

Nobody “owns” the lake.... including the Dive.

Exactly so if they are legally docked tough luck!


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Is much more normal and common for a boat to park/dock parallel to a dock as opposed to straight out like that. The Dive barge is 62' long and 22' high with a width of 22' as well. If it was 102' long, would it still be ok to occupy that spot like that, directly in front of the Simpson Ave homes?

The lake belongs to the people of NH, so by occupying that water spot on the lake with their "spuds down" into the bottom, they are effectively taking possession of state property for operating their business.

Somebody does own the lake...
 

Wrong. The state of New Hampshire owns the lake.
It is public property. As a resident of NH I am effectively one of many "owners" of the lake.
Personally I don't think the dive is an appropriate use of the lake.
From reading the LDS article it appears the owner is an arrogant prick with NO clue in public relations. I suspect he will be forced to move that piece of crap somewhere else. Hopefully somewhere like Kentucky :laugh:

No effectively you own nothing!!! Just because the state owns it doesn’t mean you do at all. Totally your opinion but they obtained 1000s of signatures in their support. You may not like it but tough luck again as long as it is legally docked not thing one you can do. You seem more arrogant than the owners.


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thank you.

The signatures don't mean a thing, since none of them come from people affected by The Dive. That's like asking people in MA if NH should have an income tax.

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No my point is that there are some in favor and some opposed to the Dive. No individual or group of individuals own the lake and as long as it is docked legally there is not much the “affected “ people can do.

As I stated however the use of spuds could be an issue and to whether it is decided if it is or is not legally docked.


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