Dollar General in Moultonboro ??!!
 

The Moultonboro Planning Board will hold a Submission Hearing on 10/28/15 at 7pm at Moultonboro Town Hàll This is on a proposed Minor Two Lot Subdivision and a proposed Site Plan for DOLLAR GENERAL. This is to be located at 929 Whittier Hwy (across from Blake Rd) Do we really need/want this in Moultonboro Village? Please attend the meeting so that our voices can be heard!!

I sure hope not--I keep hoping Subway spontaneously combusts.

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I understand the people who built the drawbridges and moat around Sandwich and Squam Lake will be in attendance at this meeting to solicit folks looking to build their very own economic moat along with drawbridges around Moultonborough.

I am VERY OK with keeping chains out of the whole lakes region--if a mom and pop discount store wants in, let's chat.

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Locals should decide
 

Moultonborough year round residents are the ones who should decide this issue. I understand not wanting DG but I also understand the need for affordable items that do not require a drive to Tilton and beyond.

Sorry, this attitude kind of gets to me. Just because I don't live there permanently doesn't mean my voice and opinion should be ignored. We all want what's best for Moultonborough. All property owners in Moultonborough have a stake in what happens in the town. At least let us discuss it here since we can't vote on it.

Dollar satire
 

There is a dollar store in Meredith -- not a long ride from Moultonborough, in the grand scheme of things.

Don't worry, if it's not needed it'll be there for while then go away. Then someone can open a wine & cheese shop, or yoga studio, or maybe a "New Hampshire's Finest" shop. You know with candles and bee's wax and such. The unwashed masses can certainly make it to Tilton.

I would think that the Moultonborough governing body would make sure that everyone had electricity and running water before they try to modernize the town too much.

And there are many restaurants in Meredith so no need for the Woodshed. Unless of course you are one of the beautiful people and then let's only put in the things that beautiful people like. Of course keep Bucky's so once in a while you can go "slumming" and feel better about your beautiful status. With your attitude eventually you will drive out all of the little people who mow your lawn, wash your windows and clean your home. Then what do you do? ask how well that worked out for Cape Cod.

DG Expansion Plan Beware.....
 

They have been expanding rapidly in NH. Currently they are trying to place a store in the small village of Sanbornville just 15 miles east of Wolfeboro in the lakes region.. The problem is the proposed location is where the founding fathers homestead resides on a quaint village street. The towns people are in an uproar. There is a facebook page "No Dollar General Sanborn House". Very interesting read. It appears after 2 continuance requests and in spite of the town people objections that the developer still is moving forward. Well it takes a village and it seems this village does not want the store in their small town. Only time will tell if the planning board listens to the townspeople and turns down the application as it does not conform to current building codes and town vision statements. BTW Planning Board members are elected positions! They will listen to the voters if they are interested in reelection.....

Ocean State Job Lot Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
 

Has every one forgotten the NEW Ocean State Job Lots in Meredith that will be opening soon. Do you really think they could compete with Ocean State?

Where on Blake Road are they proposing to put it???

IF a DG store can be economically viable in Moultonboro-meaning people who live in and around SUPPORT it-what right does anyone have to object it? If indeed those who object are in the majority it will fail but if it thrives it will bring lower cost items more conveniently to the local neighborhood and provide jobs. This is "Live free or die", right?

Ocean State Job Lot Yes!
 

As local Business Owner had posted on his BULIT-ton Board a while ago

If you do not wish to MASS IT UP then you will need to put a 100% building moratorium on the town for the next 50 years and then figure out how to pay for the cost creep in Municipal, school and county expenses. Anything short of this will mean a slowly increase in population and not everyone wishes to abide by the NH rule that everything must be at least an hour away from everything else.

What would it take?
 

With the town's current rules, vision and court decisions in place, what tools are left to keep DG out, even if everyone in town says no?

Nostalgia
 

Fifty years ago, Moultonboro was a nice, small, rural community where everyone knew everyone else. Everyone was friendly, you didn't take your life into your hands driving down the road. If someone was broken down on the side of the road, you would stop and help without any hesitation. With the massive subdivisions that have happened over the years, Moultonboro has morphed into just another suburb.

I'd be less against DG if no subdivision was involved, but once subdivided, that blight will last forever.

How many people lived/ summer occupied in the area 50 years ago compared to today?

I don't want dg to open up shop since there is already like 20 of them in the Laconia Tilton Franklin area but let's get real here. With how quick the populations growing we don't live in a society where your 6 neighbors are all named Bob John Tom Sue Pam and Sally any more.. So I find it hard to believe people still try to find the tiny town (friendly) mentality up here.

The times have changed for the worse to me, helping a stranger out has turned into a "I might end up in a possible lawsuit situation."

Don't remember exactly, there were maybe 500 residents and a couple thousand more in the summer



I wasn't trying to find anything, suburbia came to me.


Let the bashing begin.

Are you sure that the planning board in Moultonboro is APPOINTED?

I don't think the population of the area only went up a couple of thousand in the summer. I always remember people saying our area, meaning Wolfeboro, Tuftonboro always went up to 30,000 in the summer even many years ago. I don't know what it is now.

Moultonborough PB members are elected and have been for many years. Many towns (Meredith, I believe) appoint their PB members.

Same Issue in Barnstead
 

Sept 23 - Suncook Valley News

This has been happening since the 70's in NH. when I grew up in Derry, it was a cow town. Now there's no room for a cow. I'm in my 40's so it happened fast. It's creeping north, The people who grew up like us are looking to find it again so the only way to go is north. The bedroom communities are full, the country is getting more populated (not by breeding). It's coming to a town near you.

I did not realize that it was any town's responsibility to ensure that they can PAY for water and/or electricity. Also, some people prefer to "live off the grid"

Locals should decide
 

Just because someone (like me) pays taxes in a town does not give them the right to vote. Local residents should and WILL BE the ones that make the determination and not a bunch of loud mouth who simply spend time in the town and that it the way it should be.

Secondly, what the heck is wrong with DG? Dunkin Doughnuts, Iriving, Aubuchon, Subway are all chains and I do not see anyone bitching about them. If the town wants it and the voters support it than great...if not I really could not care less either way but I do get a laugh at how animated some of you get over stuff like this...not to worry.

Actually, that's EXACTLY what affords someone the right to vote--the reason America exists is because people believed in "no taxation without representation."

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NH is not unique in this tho, 99.99999999999999% of the other towns in the US only allow residents to vote. Maybe someone can petition Obama to sign an ... never mind... LOL

.....5 best sellers?
 

It seems to me that the Family Dollar alkaline batteries at the Meredith family dollar are an especially good deal. It's possible they do not have the quality of an Energizer or a Duracell, but the aaa, aa, c, a d alkalines all seem to be similar without actually doing any real tests?

There's a fairly new Dollar General store in Ashland and I've never been inside it.

Believe that Dollar General recently purchased Family Dollar.

So, what are the five top selling items at a Dollar General in New Hampshire? It does not sell newspapers, lottery tickets, coffee, beer, or milk so's what could the five top sellers be?
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My guess is the number one selling item at Dollar General is the single roll of paper towels followed by liquid dish cleaning soap, alkaline batteries, candy, and maybe an el cheapo brand similar to chap-stick.

The people working at Family Dollar in Meredith always seem to be on top of the general customer service scale ..... which at first was a bit of a surprise .... but now is pretty much expected.

www.dollargeneral.com

It's crazy you say this because in Dracut, MA DG is building a new store on the site of an old homestead.

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We bought our house in Moultonborough to get away from MA, along with its B.S. politics. We love being able to snowmobile, target shoot etc. While I don't live year round in Moultonborough I will in 4 years. I hope Dollar General goes some place else. YMMV

FLL, Based on your experience, how would you rate the single role of toilet paper that is sold? Is it soft like Charmin or does it feel like sandpaper? And is the candy come in decent size boxes that can still be smuggled into the movie theatre or are they the wimpy box sizes so prevalent now in the drugstores? Thanks!

Unfortunately not everyone thinks like you and brings with them all the reasons they left wherever they came from.

My parents moved us to Moultonboro in 1962 for the same reasons and over the years the place went from a sleepy town with a police force of 1 and volunteer fire department to a full blown municipality.

I guess there's no stopping changes for better or worse

Often ,when you're cruising through a strange town and see a Dollar General,it's soon followed by a couple of pawn shops and then a few bail bonds storefronts..........you get my drift.

The world population has literally doubled since the year I was born... I'm under 30 for reference.. I'd expect to see the quiet towns get more and more busy no matter where they are.

The only real true wilderness left in the NE is northwestern Maine. By no means do I consider Moultonborough a rural area or any part the lakes region. If I had a say in it, I would likely deny the DG. The only reason I would consider it would be if it were 1) set far enough off the road that it wouldn't be very visible, except the sign of course. 2) if the outside of the building complied with local decor. for example the subway, its more like a house.

Please don't egg him on, the last thing we need to hear is how he figured out how to return TP after he used it.

The proposed location is directly across from the elementary school in the village section of town. No chain stores in this area.

That will be great! After school the students can go get candy there. YUCK!!!

It seems like it's more the outside appearance of the Dollar General than what's sold on the inside that is disliked. Maybe the zoning board could suggest some different signs and store front appearance that blends with the Moultonborough area. Maybe copy the looks on the outside of the Moultonborough Country Store and Museum which has been there since 1783.

www.nhcountrystore.com

Probably, that faded yellow paint on the M-Boro Country Store may be called ochre color, or ochre paint, and possibly a Dollar General could do a good job of blending with period signs, and an historical color paint job. One good coat of historical paint from 1783 can change everything ...... if it's the correct color!

Fitting into the surroundings
 

They have several applications for building in small towns where there are specific requirements to "fit into the surrounding architecture." They are due to submit revised plans in Sanbornville in early November. What they actually submit will be a good indicator of their willingness to work with the local community ...time will tell! :rolleye1: