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Lake water temperature?
With BLackcatnh down and the dam hotline not picking up today I was curious if anyone knew the current lake temps?
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Current water temperature for Lake Winnipesaukee is: 50°F
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Outdoorsman, where are you getting your reading?
I am recording 46 with mine on Merrymeeting, which usually tracks Winnipesaukee fairly well. Though since my dock came out, the location is different. Now it's only in about 1' of water near the shore. This time of year, I suspect that it would be warmer as you get deeper. In either case, we are looking at a 15 year high for this time of year. I went back through the recorded temps on this site for Dec. 12th (+/- a day or two depending on when readings were taken). The results are below. If we are close to 50 today, it is a rather striking difference from the norm. 2000 36 2001 42 2002 36 2003 38 2004 39 2005 38 2006 41 2007 37 2008 37 2009 39 2010 38 2011 44 2012 40 2013 34 2014 37 |
and to think the ice out contest begins in 50 days
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The lake is ~45 degrees on Paugus. It's held steady for a couple weeks now. Thank you El Niño.
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If the ice never truly goes in, can it go out? ;)
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Thanks folks!
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So, even if The Broads and other areas never fully freeze, it would be a frightening winter if none of the bays ever skim over during the whole winter! :eek: |
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Today's lake temp on Paugus is 44. Last year on this day the lake was 36 degrees and there were discussions on here about 'the earliest ice in'.
We have already seen our earliest sunset as the sun sets later every day from here! |
Shortest time period?
The chart that Merrymeeting displayed shows just how warm it is. Considering how late in the season it is and taking in the consideration of the mild upcoming temps, it seem to reason ice-in will be quite late. I wonder what the shortest ice-in to ice-out is? I read on an on-line blog (the blogger was going from memory) that there was no ice-in for the 2000 season and possibly two years before. Do any of you remember? I wonder if this might be another year? I know with a cold snap the ice take hold pretty quickly.
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few yrs ago
I think a few yrs ago the lake never really froze completely, and I remember the pond hockey being moved to another location.
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I think 2011 was the last time when The Broads never fully froze. |
No Cold In Sight!
I just looked at the 10 day forecast for Gilford and they are still showing temps in the 50's at Christmas!! This is just crazy!!
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Charts!
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For the other data junkies out there, I plotted the water temperature data from this website, for the past dozen years. Interestingly, this September was the warmest, but this November looked normal.
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Taken 2 years ago today.
Merry Christmas everyone! |
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I can't confirm the accuracy of this site, but since all the others seem to no longer be providing the data, I have been watching this one. It may very well be 'average temps' for the time of year that they are reporting.
https://www.watertemperature.net/uni...ipesaukee.html |
Before we all get carried away, last year it was 50 degrees on Christmas Day and the ground was bare until the first week of January. We all know what happened after that! :eek:
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Probably winter of 98-99, another strong El Nino year.. El Nino has begun to weaken, I would expect winter will return in Feb, March, April...
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Crazy Weather
Looking at the 10 day forecast again for Gilford just shows more warm weather on the way. It's supposed to be in the 60's on Christmas Eve and warm weather continuing after Christmas.
Being someone who really enjoys the winter sports...this sucks!!! Dan |
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I've been watching these forums for many years primarily for fishing derby forecasts.
My group has been fishing both the spring Winni Derby and the Meredith Rotary Ice Derby for decades. If we couldn't stay with lakeside friends (mostly winter) then we stayed at B. Mae's/Fireside in Guilford. We had to make reservations in November because the Derby often fell at the same time as winter school vacation and they could get booked up. There's been years we fished brutal arctic conditions and others with little to no ice. In recent years we've watched the weather fearing there would never be an ice-in and then around the second week of January winter would show up leaving only two weeks for the ice to thicken. We are usually hopeful and faithful. This year my friends have chosen to wait and see. Here's what it looked like in 2010, 3 feet of solid ice, no slush and a warm (~55 f ) sunny day. |
As always, Mother Nature seems to be averaging things out.
Driving around the region this morning, many of the smaller, shallower, water bodies were skimmed over with ice. My water temp probe was measuring 40 degrees this afternoon. Rocks along shoreline are somewhat encased in ice after the winds of the past few days. While the next few days will not be anywhere near average, it won't take much of a cold snap to get things back to normal. The lakes don't usually show signs of consistent freezing until after Christmas each year anyway. |
I have 38 degrees now for the lake temp. With overnight lows below freezing and a blast of arctic air set for the beginning of the week, we should see some solid ice forming soon.
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Although I understand it completely, I am not worthy of articulating it like this. An excellent explanation of how ice forms......we are getting close to that magic 39 as we speak.
"For water to freeze and change into ice, it must be cooled to its freezing point, which implies heat loss. That heat loss occurs when the ambient temperature of the air is lower than the temperature of the water. The freezing point of fresh water is 32°F; however, its maximum density is reached at 39°f. From an ecological perspective, the latter point is extremely important, since the deeper water which is located under the ice – except in some small lakes or ponds - does not freeze, which means that the creatures living there can survive winter under the ice. Let us take the example of a lake whose temperature decreases to 39°F in the late fall. Since density (the weight of the water per unit of volume) increases with the decrease in temperature, the entire lake – from the surface to its bottom – will reach 39°F after a certain length of time. When it cools, the thin layer close to the surface of the lake becomes denser, therefore heavier, and sinks toward the bottom of the lake, and is replaced on top by “warmer” water which rises to the surface. If the temperature continues to drop and dips below 39°F, the layer close to the surface becomes less dense when approaching the freezing point; it then increases in volume instead of shrinking, and becomes “lighter” than the water below it at 39°F. Therefore, that cooler layer will float on the surface and will continue to cool until ice is formed. Ice (a solid) is lighter than water (a liquid) due to its larger volume, and that is why it floats. The water located under the ice below remains at 39°F, except for the layer just below the ice’s surface. That layer will approach the freezing point of 32°F. As it reaches that temperature, it turns into ice as well, making the layer of ice on the surface even thicker. The colder it gets, the thicker and the more solid the layer of ice becomes. If water behaved like other physical bodies, it would increase in density as it cools. If that were true, rivers, streams and lakes would be frozen from the surface right down to the bottom. In the summer, only the top layer would melt, while the deeper water could remain frozen throughout the year. In such conditions, it is obvious that aquatic life in our rivers and lakes would be impossible." BT |
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I was surprised to see the lake temp this morning still at 39. It should drop a bit tonight and tomorrow but the wind is not cooperating. The forecast from Wednesday through the weekend is a bit mild, overnight lows stay in upper 20s. Next week starts some steady cold weather.
Ice lovers have to wait at least another week before ice starts forming.:eek2: |
literally watching ice form as I sit here this AM. But given forecast and any wind, don't expect it to last.
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Lake Wentworth
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Compare with November 29, 2014 for last year's ice-in. |
Alton Bay
Yesterday in Alton Bay, there was some slush / ice from in front of the old Pavillion to the town beach out towards, but not to the floating band stand.
Today, there is a skim of ice out past Sandy Point, with some patchy skimming of ice to about half way to Echo Point. What a difference a day makes. |
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Lake port
Lake temp was 38 degrees this morning per the Lakeport Dataphone. Tick tick!
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There was a skim coat of ice at the south end, Rt11, of Paugus Bay. All within 200 yds of shore. Nothing out deep yet.
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Blackey's cove iced over.
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