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Bizer 11-27-2018 10:36 PM
A lighthouse on the Witches?
 
Bizer receives all sorts of inquiries. We try and answer them all. My favorite was a phone call I received about 10 years ago, "I'm driving north on I-93 and I'm calling you from my cell phone. What exit do I get off at to get to Laconia?"

But, I digress ...

Today, Bizer received an email which asked, "Hi - It would be extremely helpful to know the approximate dimensions of the Witches on Lake Winnipesaukee for a lighthouse proposal." Answer: about 2100 ft long and 650 feet wide. Anyone heard of any plan to put a lighthouse on the Witches?

Biggd 11-28-2018 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bizer (Post 304821)
Bizer receives all sorts of inquiries. We try and answer them all. My favorite was a phone call I received about 10 years ago, "I'm driving north on I-93 and I'm calling you from my cell phone. What exit do I get off at to get to Laconia?"

But, I digress ...

Today, Bizer received an email which asked, "Hi - It would be extremely helpful to know the approximate dimensions of the Witches on Lake Winnipesaukee for a lighthouse proposal." Answer: about 2100 ft long and 650 feet wide. Anyone heard of any plan to put a lighthouse on the Witches?
I think it's a great idea but who would pay for it? That's the bigger question.

webmaster 11-28-2018 08:29 AM
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I think it's a great idea but who would pay for it? That's the bigger question.
Back in 2001 I suggested (in jest) that this site would sponsor it.

Here's the thread from our old forum:

https://www.winnipesaukeeforum.com/a...cgi?read=22396

Rich 11-28-2018 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 304827)
I think it's a great idea but who would pay for it? That's the bigger question.
I bet a "go fund me" type of collection would work. Just propose it here, and in the several Facebook groups. Also I'm sure that WMUR would run with a story about it.

The Real BigGuy 11-28-2018 10:53 AM
I can’t believe anyone would seriously consider this. The area is well marked by spars. At night use a map & compass or a GPS. If your uncomfortable at night stay away from the area or don’t go out. Another sissification of our society!


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AC2717 11-28-2018 11:13 AM
While I agree with the Big Guy

i also think those spars should be lighted and flash to show the channel through the middle and around it

Pricestavern 11-28-2018 12:57 PM
I like it
 
I actually like the idea of a lighthouse on the Witches. Doesn't have to be extravagant, just utilitarian. Might save a prop or two and possibly a life.

Biggd 11-28-2018 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pricestavern (Post 304842)
I actually like the idea of a lighthouse on the Witches. Doesn't have to be extravagant, just utilitarian. Might save a prop or two and possibly a life.
I agree! I don't see any downside other than cost.

The Real BigGuy 11-28-2018 02:25 PM
Ok, blinking spars I can go with. A light house is a little over the top.


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Biggd 11-28-2018 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 304845)
Ok, blinking spars I can go with. A light house is a little over the top.


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I don't think a light house like you see on the ocean shore would be appropriate but some kind of bright blinking warning light for the deaf, dumb, and blind would be useful and cost efficient. :D

Descant 11-28-2018 06:50 PM
Blinking lights
 
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 304845)
Ok, blinking spars I can go with. A light house is a little over the top.
There are already three flashers in the area. Used to be only two (27 & 28) #71 was added "recently". I think #71 could add to the confusion. If you only see only one flasher, is #71 or #28? If you see 71 and think you're looking at 28, you could go on the wrong side.

Maybe CG Surplus bell buoys, tuned to sound like wind chimes, and, of course, lighted?

kawishiwi 11-28-2018 09:02 PM
Hmmmm....
 
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Originally Posted by Bizer (Post 304821)
Bizer receives all sorts of inquiries. We try and answer them all. My favorite was a phone call I received about 10 years ago, "I'm driving north on I-93 and I'm calling you from my cell phone. What exit do I get off at to get to Laconia?"

But, I digress ...

Today, Bizer received an email which asked, "Hi - It would be extremely helpful to know the approximate dimensions of the Witches on Lake Winnipesaukee for a lighthouse proposal." Answer: about 2100 ft long and 650 feet wide. Anyone heard of any plan to put a lighthouse on the Witches?
This sounds like a high school, end of the semester, project.

tis 11-29-2018 09:08 AM
Good luck. I am sure first you would have to get approval. The way government works it would probably take what, 5 years? And then, everybody would want lighthouses out on the lake. I have a feeling this idea is dead in the water. It would be kind of neat though. I like lighthouses.

The Real BigGuy 11-29-2018 09:37 AM
Ok, for those who think it’s a good idea, where do yo put it on a 2100 ft x 650 ft shoal? Is one enough? Do you need 2 or 3? How about a keepers cottage? Better yet, let’s be like the Chinese and fill the shoal to create a new island the we don’t need any additional lights at all.

For those unsure, yes I am being sarcastic. (and maybe trying to stir the pot)


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Descant 11-29-2018 11:30 AM
L'isle Mysterieuse
 
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 304872)
Ok, for those who think it’s a good idea, where do yo put it on a 2100 ft x 650 ft shoal? Is one enough? Do you need 2 or 3? How about a keepers cottage? Better yet, let’s be like the Chinese and fill the shoal to create a new island the we don’t need any additional lights at all.

For those unsure, yes I am being sarcastic. (and maybe trying to stir the pot)
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On April 1, 1998, the Laconia Citizen reported the sinking of Four Mile Island. Perhaps this could be a replacement? We could call it "The Mysterious Island" (sorry, Jules Verne) since it would be uncharted.

Biggd 11-29-2018 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 304872)
Ok, for those who think it’s a good idea, where do yo put it on a 2100 ft x 650 ft shoal? Is one enough? Do you need 2 or 3? How about a keepers cottage? Better yet, let’s be like the Chinese and fill the shoal to create a new island the we don’t need any additional lights at all.

For those unsure, yes I am being sarcastic. (and maybe trying to stir the pot)


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Maybe the state should just sell it, let some mega rich owner build a McMansion on it and require them to keep the lights on. Just think of the tax revenue! :D

Patofnaud 11-29-2018 10:59 PM
Mount small blinking lights to all sea gulls. Then just dodge the 30 gulls standing on the rocks. :)

gravy boat 11-30-2018 07:54 AM
Lighthouse or...
 
Build a wall. :D

upthesaukee 11-30-2018 08:55 AM
Who pays?
 
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Originally Posted by gravy boat (Post 304895)
Build a wall. :D
Make Gilford pay for it! :D

Dave

tis 11-30-2018 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by upthesaukee (Post 304896)
Make Gilford pay for it! :D

Dave

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Anybody but us!!

jbolty 11-30-2018 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 304872)
Ok, for those who think it’s a good idea, where do yo put it on a 2100 ft x 650 ft shoal? Is one enough? Do you need 2 or 3? How about a keepers cottage? Better yet, let’s be like the Chinese and fill the shoal to create a new island the we don’t need any additional lights at all.

For those unsure, yes I am being sarcastic. (and maybe trying to stir the pot)


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why not build a casino on it?

brk-lnt 11-30-2018 11:10 AM
The most logical thing would be to just dredge the area and remove the hazard entirely. A barge and a few sticks of dynamite would take of it the same way other unwanted granite deposits in the state are removed.

joey2665 11-30-2018 01:58 PM
Waste of money. Leave it as it is, maybe just add a few more lighted spars at minimal cost. How many serious incidents have there been in the last 5 years at the witches?

Superduty1 11-30-2018 04:13 PM
Perfect spot for The Dive, with room to expand.

Descant 12-01-2018 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 304907)
Waste of money. Leave it as it is, maybe just add a few more lighted spars at minimal cost. How many serious incidents have there been in the last 5 years at the witches?
Are you serious??

I don't think anybody else on this thread is.

BTW, other lighthouses on Winnipesaukee were privately funded. Of course they are on private property where you are quite welcome to spend money anyway you want. You'd have to negotiate a 99 year lease for the Witches and then negotiate with Shore Things to build. I expect she'd enjoy the challenge. Can't be much trickier than building on Wilcomb (sp?) Island.

jetlag100 12-01-2018 06:53 PM
How about solar lights...put them on some poles that would be installed like a light post and put them around the witches....it would look awesome and serve a purpose:D

Bizer 12-02-2018 11:49 AM
Personally, I think they should put a daymark at/near the northernmost and southernmost rock of the Witches. Use a telephone pole (to handle the winter ice) and put solar-powered lights on top. I feel daymarks are good navigational aids because they are easy to see and they do not drift out of position.

Here's what they look like.
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark5.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark6.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark1.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark3.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark4.jpg

If anyone put something this conspicuous on their shorefront property, Bizer would probably put it on the map as a navigational aid.

Descant 12-02-2018 04:08 PM
Bizer's Daymarks? Can't tell if this is serious or not. The one with the boat wrapped around it makes me think "An expensive solution to a non-problem" not preventing accidents, just protecting indestructible rocks from damage.

Onshore 12-10-2018 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Descant (Post 304942)
Are you serious??

I don't think anybody else on this thread is.

BTW, other lighthouses on Winnipesaukee were privately funded. Of course they are on private property where you are quite welcome to spend money anyway you want. You'd have to negotiate a 99 year lease for the Witches and then negotiate with Shore Things to build. I expect she'd enjoy the challenge. Can't be much trickier than building on Wilcomb (sp?) Island.
We've already met. As we explained to them in the meeting we, NHDES, are not the biggest challenge here. The biggest underlying problem here is that NHDES lacks the authority to approve a project that that takes public land and transfers it to a private holding. That authority rests with the Governor and Executive Council. They need to figure out who is going to take ownership of this and be responsible for maintaining it. Once they figure that out they can move forward in pursuing the construction and potential land transfer.

GusMan 12-10-2018 09:44 PM
lighthouses!
 
Hi All,

Interestingly... there are several lighthouses on Lake Sunapee at least one of which I believe marks a hazardous reef/navigation area (I'd have to dig out my chart to see for sure). It's my understanding that they are quite popular with the tourists for photo ops etc.

I have no idea who owns them... but kinda neat nonetheless..

Hell... the cottage on Becky's Garden is a huge draw.... why not the Witches? (mostly busting chops!)….

Cheers..

Gusman

Descant 12-10-2018 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by joey2665
Waste of money. Leave it as it is, maybe just add a few more lighted spars at minimal cost. How many serious incidents have there been in the last 5 years at the witches?
Hmmm. Same as Middle Ground Shoals, I bet. I know the lake is a lot busier than it used to be, but there are times when I believe it was better when the Public Utilities Commission was in charge instead of Safety and DES. Like many other things, when people start asking their legislators to pass a law, the long term result is not always the intended outcome. And you get Department Commissioners who tell staff to "put a buoy there" (because my friend doesn't want so many boats coming so close?). Now, we have a logical MP who removes unnecessary buoys because there really is no hazard. Good job, MP. DES says there are certain classes of docks that present no environmental impact, but they don't want to stop regulating them. The Legislative dock study commission couldn't meet because they couldn't get a quorum. Are they really interested? Time to figure out that we just don't need more regulation. Just let MP do their law enforcement job, and read your own chart to avoid prop damage. Here endeth the rant.

jeffk 12-11-2018 06:23 AM
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This is what we need. We could just build a little platform for him to "perform" on. :D

ApS 12-11-2018 09:58 AM
But Liking Bizer's Suggestion...
 
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Originally Posted by Descant (Post 304961)
Bizer's Daymarks? Can't tell if this is serious or not.

The one with the boat wrapped around it makes me think "An expensive solution to a non-problem" not preventing accidents, just protecting indestructible rocks from damage.
You're thinking of this Daymarker? :rolleye2:

http://survivingdating.com/wp-conten...rashedboat.jpg

Onshore 12-11-2018 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Descant (Post 305221)
From Joey 2665; Waste of money. Leave it as it is, maybe just add a few more lighted spars at minimal cost. How many serious incidents have there been in the last 5 years at the witches?

Hmmm. Same as Middle Ground Shoals,I bet. I know the lake is a lot busier than it used to be, but there are times when I believe it was better when the Public Utilities Commission was in charge instead of Safety and DES. Like many other things, when people start asking their legislators to pass a law, the long term result is not always the intended outcome. And you get Department Commissioners who tell staff to "put a buoy there" (because my friend doesn't want so many boats coming so close?). Now, we have a logical MP who removes unnecessary buoys because there really is no hazard. Good job, MP. DES says there are certain classes of docks that present no environmental impact, but they don't want to stop regulating them. The Legislative dock study commission couldn't meet because they couldn't get a quorum. Are they really interested? Time to figure out that we just don't need more regulation. Just let MP do their law enforcement job, and read your own chart to avoid prop damage. Here endeth the rant.
I believe the next committee meeting is scheduled for January 11th at the Legislative Office Building in Concord at 10:00 a.m. You should come. The meetings are open to the public. You can verify the schedule by keeping an eye on the House calendar which is posted weekly here: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/hous...ns/default.htm

They list it by its long title, Commission To Study The Effectiveness Of The Current Statutes Related To Management Of Non-Tidal Public Waterways And The Construction Or Placement Of Structures Within Them.

steve-on-mark 12-11-2018 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizer (Post 304956)
Personally, I think they should put a daymark at/near the northernmost and southernmost rock of the Witches. Use a telephone pole (to handle the winter ice) and put solar-powered lights on top. I feel daymarks are good navigational aids because they are easy to see and they do not drift out of position.

Here's what they look like.
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark5.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark6.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark1.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark3.jpg
www.bizer.com/lwother/daymark4.jpg

If anyone put something this conspicuous on their shorefront property, Bizer would probably put it on the map as a navigational aid.
I think he should include the green rope lighting on the east side of mink...best navigational aid coming out of Smith cove![emoji6]


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BoatHouse 12-14-2018 09:49 AM
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Is it No Wake or 5MPH?

brk-lnt 12-14-2018 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BoatHouse (Post 305311)

Is it No Wake or 5MPH?
Yes, it is.

Descant 12-14-2018 01:04 PM
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Yes, it is.
Wrong thread. The Witches is not a NWZ. LOL.

MAXUM 12-14-2018 02:58 PM
It's a "NO GO" zone for most captains. ;)

RumGuy 12-19-2018 03:07 PM
You will notice that the daymarker did it's job, and prevented the boat from entering what might have been a bad area.


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