Sununu - 1,000 Cases Per Day - Covid-19
 

"“We have 350 cases today. If you ask me where we’ll be in two weeks, I think we’re over a thousand. I think that’s it,” Sununu said."

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Nationwide increase. New Hampshire increase.

The debate continues.

Ha, just Ha

That is all

Sadly, I think he's right. I've been telling myself that everything's fine in Mass, but numbers in the Globe make it clear we are back in March/April, and headed in the wrong direction.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/...massachusetts/

We're not back in April, we're wayyyy higher than then.

15% of my students were out today. Got an email an hour ago from a student asking what work she'll need while quarantining these next couple weeks. My reply, "wait—you were in class TODAY."

Five minutes later, I received an email asking to confirm my seating chart for contact tracing. I'm now sitting here wondering a. what I'll need to do for my classes if I need to be out, b. how I deal with things in my family, c. how susceptible I am to Covid complications, d. ad infinitum.

The situation blows all around...and it's only going to get worse in the upcoming weeks.

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Your title is misleading and only meant to be!

Shame on you!

Sorry to read you're on the front lines. My oldest son is a high school teacher in a district with rising numbers. We had dinner a few nights ago, but I think that's going to be it for a while :(

Everyone needs to be taking vitamin D supplements every day. This will help build your immune system so you can fight the virus better. Take them with food because they are fat soluble. It’s a simple thing we can all do.
think, I am sorry that you are in this situation. Believe it or not, schools in Baltimore have not opened yet. I’m not sure they ever will now. Everything is just so strange and different now.

Gilford
 

Gilford schools just shut down today after second covid case...

Dan

Wolfeboro
 

25 cases connected to Calvary church

https://whdh.com/news/nh-health-offi...feboro-church/

Thanksgiving ...???
 

Curious...what’s everyone doing about Thanksgiving? We are invited to our son’s home, which we’re really looking forward to, but there would be 5 of them, 2 of us, our D.I.L’s mother and sister, plus her brother’s family of 3. I am no mathematician but that sounds like 12, with 5 from MA, 2 from NH, 4 from CT, and 1 Floridian. Yikes! I know it’s probably a no brainer, but I don’t want to be the one to cancel. On the other hand, our hosts might be relieved.....they love doing it year after year, but this is different, of course. Sorry for rambling.

Yet zero cases to date linked to any "protest" anywhere across the US

What's the source of this statement?

We were psyched to be hosting our 3 kids and 2 of their SOs. But the kids began to get nervous about each other. I spent a couple of days not wanting to be the one to cancel, then it was sort of forced upon me by a son. We are now having just our daughter, for a grand total of 3. I'm very upset about it.

Nothing on the CDC Charts and findings with where clusters are coming from. Not even a category

I know....that stinks! But...on the other hand, if avoiding this plague can be accomplished by giving up the one day...then it makes perfect sense to do that. Pulling the trigger is hard....having everyone together means a lot to all. Oh my, what to do, what to do.........

I read something in the paper yesterday. It said if you gather for Thanksgiving this year, there’s a good chance it will be your last one. Very sobering.

We have not changed our plans. My mother and father (in their late 70s)host and we will be about 20 immediate family members. We already canceled Easter and Palm Sunday this year and in the end we all feel we do the best we can with precautions and life must go on.

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That’s just a ridiculous statement and scare tactic! With a 99%+ chance of recovering if you get the virus to say this would be your last Thanksgiving if you gather, is just plain uncalled for...

Dan

I will be staying home and enjoying a Maria Callender's Turkey pot pie. :liplick:

Yes. I agree. I’ve been seriously thinking about canceling my paper even though it’s one of the things I love to do most to start my day. I haven’t gone anywhere in months and it doesn’t seem like I will ever be able to get back to normal.
It would be nice if someone could give us some encouraging news for a change.

I’d love to know which newspaper and the source of this information. To me that is a load of nonsense.

Yes there are more positives but mostly mild and asymptotic cases. Notice the hospitals are not being overcrowded like before and the recovery rate is over 99%. I’m sorry at those numbers no one it going to stop our family from getting together for thanksgiving and Christmas.

As I said they already previously scared us into not celebrating Easter and Palm Sunday this year we will do our best but at the same time live our lives. Life is too short no matter what not to celebrate our family.


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Here's a risk calculator that seems well-grounded. Enter your number of people, pick your spot on the map. Flip a coin on the ascertainment bias. Then decide if the risk is worth it to you.

For us, it was the actual risk plus various individuals' stress levels around risk.

https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu/

Pick a spot.... Flip a coin... Make a decision....

Fear Mongering at its finest!

So is this what it’s come down to?....We take an online risk calculator to determine if we are going spend time with our family?

Sad...VERY sad....and not for me!

Dan

That’s the bottom line. Forget the chart, it’s about personal comfort level.

We as a family have decided that we are comfortable with assembling for the holidays and that we take as many precautions as possible.

For others if you are not comfortable then don’t do it as you will not enjoy your family if you are apprehensive about being there to begin with.

To each his own.


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I agree it's very sad. We did not use it in our deliberations, but I thought it might be helpful to those trying to understand the risk.

Or Alaska...
 

You can party-hearty in Vermont!

Yes yes YES!

Can we please start to talk about the recovery rates?!? All along the covid tracking has kept neg results and they far outnumbered the pos. I know, anyone I discussed it with said there just too many false positives to rely on that number.

Well come on now, what are we doing?

In MA we are now;

masked in all public places.
Just had 2 weeks rink closures.
Most schools remote ( ours just went remote for 2 weeks but back in class now).
Restaurants closed at 9:30 pm (the final nail for sure).
10pm curfews
Limits to Tday / Xmas

YET! The numbers are skyrocketing...oh, and baker Keeps touting kids need to be in school. Can’t have Your cake and eat it too. I’m sorry...I don’t see how throwing darts at the wall is science.


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Not to mention Marty Walsh is now saying the workplace is one of the two main reason for the surge. the workplace?? What workplace? Almost all are closed. Also said social gatherings, well that is broad, again what about the protesting for and then celebration groups over the past two weeks. Oh and by the way they don't want to but they will send the police to your house if 911 is called on you by your neighbors for having more than 10 people. Anyone ever hear of the Intolerable Acts?

If you look at the MA dept of Health Chart (attached), being at home is the most risk of catching it.

When is comes to the hockey shutdown and for some reason they got it out for hockey:
When they shut hockey down in their executive order they said 30 clusters creating 107 cases they shut us down on 10/23 and opened hockey back up 11/7- just in youth and men’s league hockey

The chart from the MA dept of health Shows that between 10/11 and 11/7 (mind you hockey was shut down for two out of those three weeks) that youth organized athletics and camps, that means any and every organized sports activity
14 clusters for 41 cases Prior to 10/11 and 24 clusters for 17 cases (going back to the March shutdown)

So here you go
1 - First off how do you have fewer cases than clusters if a cluster is defined by two or more cases from one spot
2 - Total across all sports is 58 cases going back to start of shutdown and including the shutdown, less than the 107 they said in executive order to shut down hockey
3 - where did they get their numbers to justify the hockey shut down and no other sport
4 - the numbers before the shut down were lower than during the shut down period


I was one that was in favor at the beginning, waiting to see the numbers and science and conditions, now I am in the camp of Enough is enough, people should be able to live their lives and make their own risk decisions. Oh and to those that say its for others not you?
Almost half a million people die from smoking every year and about that 25-30,000 are from second hand smoke, yet smoking is legal and you don't have to wear a mask. Same could be said for Alcohol related deaths, and other communicable viruses/diseases.

Usually, at Thanksgiving and Christmas while eating a $2.48 Marie Callender turkey pot pie, http://www.mariecallendersmeals.com/...turkey-pot-pie ....... all totally alone, just me and Marie, for the umpteenth year in a row ..... now ..... too many years ...... I just have a good long cry and then go outside, out to the cold outdoors, and go rake some leaves or shovel some snow ...... but no crying for me this year, not this year, not in 2020.

Because, what really matters is waking up every new morning without a newly formed, overnight minor build-up of phlegm in my lungs ..... which is how it starts.

Good morning ....... yes, I'm still alive! ...... and ...... very happy to be here!

Is definitely better to be lonely and miserable than to suffocate to death, as breathing becomes more difficult with each passing day.

Besides, I would so miss my #1 best girl friend, ever-ever-ever ...... that Marie Callender! ...... :banana: ...... ho-ho-ho!

Can't speak to points 2 and 3 but...
1 - Fewer 'Confirmed' cases than clusters. 'Confirmed' being the operative word here.
4 - Increase in cases always lag by about 2 weeks. If they are seeing numbers that prompt a shut down, the numbers during the shutdown will probably by higher than when the shut down was ordered. In fact, the increased numbers is proof that their concern was justified.

concern was justified on 17 confirmed cases (leading up to the shut down) across the whole state for all youth sports? I can't agree with that, and as far as the confirmed cases lag, yes I do agree that is how it works, but why then do they allow people to move around with a Covid negative result in their hand if it could take up to two weeks for it to show. as the rule is quarantine for 2 weeks or show a negative covid test

All good points. Testing is very problematic.

I agree that the recovery rates are good news. But if your primary metric is deaths, then this is sort of irrelevant. We are now at something like 250K in the US, and climbing--a thousand more every day or so

I work in a school that is open full time. In my community, we had a big spike in cases that were traced back to Halloween parties and some private parties at restaurants/bars. Right now there are about a dozen schools that have gone remote due to cases among students and staff.

The message I sent to my school community here is that everyone needs to be aware that the actions they choose to take over the Thanksgiving break (and anytime, for that matter) can impact others. I am careful and am not too concerned about the virus for me. I also know that if I test positive, my whole school (we are a small school) goes remote, something no one wants. Therefore, I have modified my holiday plans.

We all need to make our own choices, but need to recognize that the choices we make potentially have consequences for others. These will be different for each of us. I don't think we need a "one size fits all" approach and hope that as we weigh our decisions we factor in how what we do could impact others.

Let's not forget those 250k deaths are AFTER all we've done to curb the spread of the virus.

Honestly, now that my students' tests are coming back positive and my tire shop just called to let me know the salesman I worked with last week tested positive, I'm starting to feel like the walls are closing in a bit.

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Most participants were wearing masks in those previous protests. And the recent celebrations in the streets were mostly mask wearers. Be interesting to see what happens after last Saturdays protests of mainly unmasked participants.

Huh? And I have some swampland in Louisiana for sale real cheap.....:rolleye1:

I’m sorry but there were not many masks worn at the protests I had seen and even when they had them they were pulled down because they were yelling and screaming uncontrollably.


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Obviously, we haven’t done enough.

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