High Winni Water Level
 

July 7, 2023 and looking at the BearCam, it now has three 17-gallon rope handle tubs, filled with lake water, and set strategically on the dock, there, to keep the wood sections from floating away.

17 gal x 8-lb = 136-lbs, each tub, $7.98 Walmart, plus you get to use the tubs for yard work, later on ..... very good!

Its the highest I have ever seen at this time of year

It really is high!!

Dumb question, but why not let the excess out and flush it down the river?

Or is the river already at or near flood stage?

Downstream is already too high.
Silver Lake is in a No Wake order.

Issued July 4, 2023: a ..... http://www.nhsp.dos.nh.gov/news-and-...er-silver-lake ..... for Silver Lake, a 202-acre "lake" in the Winnipesaukee River.


Lake Winnipesaukee which is 45,440-acres size and 75-billion gallons water has only one outflow, the Winnipesaukee River ...... http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/maps...ver_tilton.pdf ..... which meanders through Laconia, Belmont, Tilton, and Franklin before draining into the Merrimack River.

If the Lakeport Dam in Laconia lets out too much water from Lake Winnipesaukee then the homes on Silver Lake in the Winnipesaukee River in Belmont/Tilton get flooded, plus Silver Lake is also dam controlled, somehow or other, by the Lochmere Dam at the inflow to Silver Lake and the entire Lake Winnipesaukee water drainage outflow flows out through the Winnipesaukee River which includes Silver Lake.

You got all that!

Attention: there will be a 50-question pop quiz with all questions based on information taken from these two above links at 9-pm, tonight!

Winnisquam is dam controlled by the Lochmere Dam.
Opeechee is dam controlled by the Avery Dam.

Water flows freely out of Silver Lake down the Winni to Franklin were the next dam is. Since nothing is holding the water back in Silver Lake... pouring more into it cannot be compensated by opening a dam on the other end to let some out. It just has to move freely into the floodplain and down the river.

Eagle Creek is reporting that they are flowing what they can.

All the downstream indicators are very high, and Winnipesaukee is about 6" over full. That's a lot but nowhere near a no wake point (it was several inches higher at the end of April THIS year).

The Lakeport dam output is at about 1200 CFS, which would drop the the lake roughly 1/2" per day. It would take about 10 days to run off the excess 5". HOWEVER, the predicted rain over the next 10 days is about 3", PLUS any runoff, negating most of the dam's effect. Further, that rain will prevent downstream from dropping their levels and make it concerning to increase the Lakeport output even more.

As long as we keep getting all the rain, like we have been getting over the last month or so, it will be a slow process to drop Winnipesaukee's water level.

Funny (Not funny) this thread started with a post on April 9th asking why the water level was so low. Times and conditions have changed.

High Water
 

WMUR "Lake levels around the state are up, like Lake Winnipesaukee, 6 inches above normal, Lake Sunapee, 6 inches, Lake Winnisquam, 9.5 inches and Silver Lake in Belmont is so high it's under a no wake order."

To me, it seems like more than 6 inches up. This weeks potential rain won't make it any better.

https://www.wmur.com/article/rain-ne...-high/44482163

There has been so much rain, there is no where for it to go....... it is just going to be one of those years...... Hopefully they will be able to continue to open the dam in 100 cfs increments a few times this week.... the problem right now is that they are trying to keep All the lakes in the chain at a point where they are usable for recreational purposes, and don't have to enact no wake protocols..... unfortunately they have not been able to do that for the owners on Silver Lake which almost reached flood stage is currently at a now wake water level....

As for me my dock is weighed down, and still breathing, although with the rain this week, it might be underwater soon.... and need some more wight added.....

Not good for boating but restaurants and bars are booming! Went by Twin Barns yesterday and there was nowhere to park! The bartender told me last year's numbers were down because the weather was so good but so far this year it's looking like record sales!

If you ask me, what Twin Barns could use is an outdoor, weatherproof ping pong table, set off to the side somewhere, outdoors. For $149.99 they can get a GoSports bright pink table top, ping pong, with all aluminum frame and legs with free shipping from u-know-where. It's a nice looking ping pong table.

This would go good with their business because it will give people both something to do, there, plus something interesting to watch, there outdoors, a ping pong game in action.

Ping Pong?
 

Ping Pong? Remember those igloos for outdoor ding during the pandemic? Soon, with AI, those will be outfitted for whatever location you want. Tap your credit card and a few keys and you can be on Bourbon Street, or sitting with Gary at Buena Vista with an Irish Coffee.

Today is Wednesday, July 12, and looking at the weather forecast for this weekend, July 14-15-16, Fri-Sat-Sun, it says rain 90%-60%-70% for these three days.

Having a rainy weekend what with the high Lake Winnipesaukee water level which is going up and up will definitely make for a lot fewer boats out there, making big boat wakes that hit the shoreline and shake, rattle and roll a submerged, or almost submerged dock a lot less likely to be happening.

A relatively light weight aluminum dock will pitch and roll like a slinky or something when an incoming two foot boat wake rolls underneath it and uplifts it with each water slap ....... slap-slap-slap ..... that 500-lb dock just done got moved one inch by an incoming wake ..... slap-slap-slap.

Is why some boats get stored on a boat lift ..... too many waves and wakes .... slap-slap-slap .... moving lake waves and wakes have power and energy ..... is called 'water power.'

So the lake is actually now starting to go down some according to the DES page this morning. They are allow ~1750 cfs to flow out of the dam, so with no rain there should be another good improvement in the lake level today....

The question becomes how much rain will we see this weekend, and how will it effect the current situation..... As high as Winnipesaukee is right now, because it is being lowered, Winnisquam is going to be rising as its dam is only open to around ~1500 CFS, and sliver lake will remain in a no-wake situation for the foreseeable future....

The good news is NASCAR is in town, so there is somewhere beside the lakes being the focal point of the weekend....

Got my self into a situation that is taking up to much of my time. Must vent. Our neighbors, a older couple from MA. Their pole dock is a mess due to high water and wakes. I have used rocks and buckets to keep it in place, but it needs to be pulled and reinstalled. They refuse to call anyone until they “asses the damage themselves”. So they call me. Daily. I have pulled floating boards back to shore numerous times this week. Must add they have no time table to return north to asses. Done. Thanks for listening


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I taught my kids at a very young age that "no" is a very powerful and when used properly, liberating word. Tell your neighbors that their dock maintenance is too much for you to take care of. Suggest they get their "asses" up to assess then dock soon, because you are done.

I agree with ITD. As a good helpful neighbor, you can often time be taken for granted. When the water first rose quickly helping them out because they are not there all the time is a nice gesture. However if they can't make the time to come asses the situation that burden is on them, and they shouldn't be burdening you with their responsibility.

Sorry, phone went dead.:D

What do you know ..... here's a dock installation ad from Craigslist/Laconia posted July 2 .... Dock Installation ...... http://www.nh.craigslist.org/mas/d/l...639030612.html (does this link work? probably not) ....... in Services in Marine with 3 photos and it says:

dock installation (Laconia)

Skilled marine construction worker. In the dock installation Business for 8 years. Am willing to take on most jobs. Will need to do site visits for price estimates. Seasonal docks, rafts, boat lifts, dock repairs, the list goes on. Please call me by txt or call 603 581-8847

Did you tell them that your consulting fee is $100 per hour? ;)

Thursday, July 13, 2023 ...... http://www.twitter.com/NH_HSEM/statu...60832571187201 .... maybe heavy rain and wind tonight?

Is it time to rig a line from your jetski lift, out front to an anchor set into the lake floor to maybe keep it from getting knocked over by the waves and high water?

Thursday, July 13, 2023 ...... http://www.dos.nh.gov/news-and-media...h-water-levels .... urges caution due to high water levels

Thursday, July 13, 2023 ......http://www.wmur.com/article/lake-sun...er-nh/44538660 ..... Lake Sunapee; motorboat towing a water-tuber raises havoc with all-wood dock and boat house

Who you gonna call for dock repair work if it's too much to do-it-yourself? In Laconia you can maybe try ...... "Skilled marine construction worker. In dock installation Business for 8 years. Am willing to take on most jobs. Will need to do site visits for price estimates. Seasonal docks, rafts, boat lifts, dock repairs, the list goes on. Please call me by txt or call 603 581-8847" ...... posted in Craigslist on July 2 and on June 20 under services/marine

Thursday, July 13, 2023 ..... http://www.vtdigger.org/2023/07/13/r...coma-lake-dam/ ..... Rescuers aid 3-people fishing on pontoon boat with motor that stalled out, hung up on Mascoma Lake dam in Lebanon, NH

This about covers it!

So I looked at the DES website, the dam now is spilling out about ~1800 cfs..... so hopefully over the weekend we will see some positive changes in the lake level..... even with the forecasted rain....

Remember at around 1920 cfs the lake will drop about 1 inch per 24 hour period. of Course that I believe takes into account a minimal inflow....

Winni is still about 4" over full and 3" of rain is predicted over the next 10 days, plus runoff. At the current dam release rate of roughly 1" per day that should bring us down to full lake in about 10 days

Things are headed in the right direction and, given the copious amounts of rain we have had in the last month or so, that is really good management of the water level by DES.

My water level is the highest its been even back in april

Possible 300 Foot Safe Passage
 

From the Laconia Sun:

It’s worth noting that the current lake level, though apparently a record for this date, is still lower than the highest level in recent history. The “Lake Winnipesaukee Lake Level Data Graph,” published by DES, shows that a level of nearly 506 feet had been previously recorded.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...613735ed3.html

Request
 

I met a 91 year old gentlemen this morning at the Glendale docks. He has a mainland home along Belknap Point. He respectfully asked me to spread the word to anyone I knew who boated to please be observant of your wakes during this time of extreme high water. His rock walls and property were taking a beating by a FEW boaters getting too close to shore. He graciously asked to keep as much distance from the shore as possible so wakes will decrease before hitting the shoreline.

Sounded like a very reasonable and sensible request so I told him to "consider it done"!

Dan

Will do!

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The historical levels have little value. The article states 1968. We can all agree development along the lake front and surrounding areas is threefold since then. Runoff would saturate the ground now gets directed to a area which is overwhelmed. Hopefully these recent events will lead to more attention being paid to what is required for new developments and lakefront properties. And let’s not forget existing catch basins and runoff here in Laconia and surrounding towns need maintenance that is often pushed aside to a later date


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Still more rain on the way.

It is a very reasonable request, and I think for many of us seasoned folks it is common sense.... Unfortuantely there are a lot of people who's common sense is overtaken by their selfishness.... But I digress....

I had just raised my dock this past weekend.... and now it looks like I need to weigh it down again..... Although I did see they are going to open the valve another 200 cfs today, to 1150 cfs.... hopefully that will start to bring the lake down.... I would really like to see it up at around 1500 cfs, and maybe it will get their by the weekend.... 505 ft. is getting more and more realistic!!!!!!!!!

Email today from Lake Winnipesaukee Association


Alan

My son in law just got a new wake boat. The kids were out in it having a good time yesterday at dusk with the tunes cranking and a good roll set. It was the first nice day in awhile. My grumpy neighbor was yelling and complaining because they were washing out his waterfront and destroying his dock. Anyone have recommendations where we can go near the neck to enjoy the lake? A no wake infringes on our rights to the pursuit of happiness.


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Don't even know where to start with a response to that.

It has to be sarcasm?

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I do. Your disrespectful children should be a where of there surroundings and the issue we are all facing at the time. Clearly your parenting skills are weak. Respect your neighbor and remind, no tell your children to move away from the location in question


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It Is...
 

It is, and I approve!

:)

"Cranking the tunes" for all to share. Many on this Forum have voiced their thoughts about such generous sharing.