Lake Gas
 

Now the the prices of gas is getting close to $3 a gallon (rip off) I wonder how high it will be on the lakes this year?

To go fast or not to go fast
 

I guess this could be one way of slowing us down on the lake, the fastre ou go the more gas you burn, I know one 23 foot 1988 cobalt Bow rider that will unfortunatley be staying on the mooring for more than usual

stay in port!
 

I bet a lot of boats will stay tied up at the dock. That is unless they use wind for power.

Saving my pennies to gas the jetski.

Gas!
 

I am budgeting for $4.25 while hoping it stays below $4.00

Live lobster is around $15 a pound now, so it could be a different summer for too many of us.

I was planning to buy a new and bigger boat this spring. I have those plans on hold for now, driven by the cost of gas. No sense having more money tied up in a boat that is too expensive to use.

Saw the Mount go in and out of the Weirs on the shake down cruise on Monday. I was at the kitchen table doing some work when I heard that horn blast.

Great sound and a great sight!

It is time to get the bottom of the boat wet!

R2B

Ahh,there's something to be said afterall for my gas mizer,PWC which I can fuel up at the lowest price gas station!

I for one have no problem with this. The less traffic the better in my opinion. As for me I probably will not let the gas prices dictate my boat usage. Although if there is less boat traffic, I may find that I spend more afternoons just drifting around enjoying the sun, instead of going out for a ride and coming back to the dock to lounge around and rest on shore. So I guess in one sense I may actually spend more time on my boat.

Gas was $3.45 a gallon at shep browns last wknd.

19 mile
 

I heard 19 mile bay is planning on charging around $3.84 per gal. I think the 200 hsp will spend more time on the dock this year and the 7.5 hsp will be my main ride.:

Last time I was at the lake I put 200 miles on the GPS in 5 days divided by 1.4 mpg (at cruise) times the price per gallon = :eek:

Resident 2B
 

Our gas in Connecticut may be $3.19 per gallon but I can tell you a couple of places where the lobster is $5.99 per pound.:laugh:

Here is the crime in all this
 

So I was looking as the gas and oil prices have creeped up towards last years highs I looked at the price of crude according to Bloomberg. Crude is not even close to last years high..... it is currently in the mid 60$ per barrell, as opposed to last years highs in the 70$ range... no what has sky rocketed is the price of gasoline futures which as of this morning are around $2.30.... what does all this mean... well the cost of the oil to refine is not anymore expensive and is in fact less expensive then last summer. Oh and by the way the gas at the pumps came form oil bought last winter that was in the 50$ per barrell range.... Then the last I knew there are no issues with refining capacities, the world is able to refine the same amount of gasoline as we where last summer..... and finally the Gas and oil companies are making huge profits....

Hummm do we know how to say cooperative Monopoly...... the gas companies know they have everyone by the shirt tails.... and they set the price and as long as they all stay together on the price, they can drive it to what ever high they want.....

I will now step of my soap box and people can draw there own conclusions....

How long before
 

Society says enough is enough? It drives me crazy that we all take these price hikes in stride. I have certainly been talking to my local representatives and senators. I am only one voice, it will take many more before it makes a difference.

Good Point WBB..... Although I don't think the price is quite at the point where people will complain enough..... And also at this point, I am less concerned by the price, as opposed to how much they are jerking the price around.... Gas is something with enough known variable that they should be able to set a consistent price for periods of time..... There is also the fact that the price goes up at peak travel time... with gas that was made from oil that was bought at a much lower price.... and then there is my biggest pet peave, when the price of a barrell of oil drops we don't see an imediate drop.... because "the gas coming out of the pumps was made from high priced oil" well why didn't the price stay low when we are pumping the gas from the low priced oil... HUH?????????????????????????????????????????????/

The refining capacity is lower than the current demand.Tell Al Gore and similar thinking leaders to stop halting refinery growth or this problem will only get worse as we consume more and more.Either that or take his advice and not his lead by riding a bike to work.

Wow!!! That is a $548.57 gas bill at the 19 Mile Island gas prices!!

Gas boycott on 5/15
 

I just got several emails from friends with a message about a nationwide boycott. The message said we should all avoid buying gas on May 15th and see what happens. According to this message the last time this was tried a year or so ago the prices dropped that week. Maybe if we all do the 1 day boycott more people will get the message than if we write to our congressmen. Haven't seen that effort work too well here in NJ.

I received that one too. I don't see how that can be effective without an overall reduction in demand. This will only cause a one day reduction in cash flow for the oil companies followed by a spike when purchacing resumes on the 16th.

Refining Capacity being lower the current demand has been the oil companies defense for a long time.... I still don't believe it. I will agree that at peak usuage point this is true, However there are several points during the year where there is low demand, and instead of the refineries keeping the production up they cut back, this is unneccesary and the reason, that they claim that there are shortages.... sure we do need more refinary development to help out with production so that the current refineriess aren't always at 100 production, but we also need the unfair practices of the oil and refining companies to stop.... The industry as a hole has to much control and as long as they colaborate with each other have a Monopoly....

Now you take that and add it to diesel fuel for the truck to make the 800 mile round trip and you get about what I paid at the NASWA for those 5 nights:eek:
Kinda makes you wonder if it's worth it:confused: That's one reason I stayed home last year. Bought myself a whole lot of gas in Jersey and the Northern Chesapeake bay;)

Could the high cost of fuel be what pushes the boating industry into a recession? I have been observing this industry for only 10 years, and have been wondering at what point would boating become too expensive for the average person.

The high cost of renting a slip forced me out of boat ownership three years ago. The high fuel costs after huricane Katrina forced me out of occasional trips to the lake in a friend's boat; it is just TOO expensive.

I will be doing my boating in a small sailboat. The wind is still free!:D

The air is still free
 

That is what I meant by still free!

Two words, VIEW TAX. :rolleye1:

You can believe what you want.Maybe the conspiracy theory,yea that's it.They're out to get us!Simple economics,supply and demand.Am I happy about it? No but we still have the cheapest gas in the whole western world.

I fully agree with you that we have the cheapest gas in the Western World, and I have never whined about the price. What I do argue about is the yo yo effect that the prices go through every year, because the supply is supposedly short. Then when the gas companies see there revenue going down the prices suddenly drop... But they never drop as quickly as they go up.... I also wouldn't mind the yo yo effect of prices if I was paying for the expensive barrel of oil when the gas from that barrel hit the market.... but I pay a high price for a gallon of gas when the barrell that made that gas was 10 to 20 dollars cheaper.... Plain and simple the oil companies are taking advantage of thier situation..... the question is when do they abuse thier advantage, and currently I feel that they are abusing the situation.... I don't have a problem paying a higher price for gas but when the prices swings around the way it has over the last several years, and the Oil and Gas companies are making RECORD BREAKING profits, I do get angry.......

No Ethanol Gas
 

We received a newsletter from Melvin Village Marina a few weeks ago cautioning against purchasing gas with ethanol for your boat. This topic has been covered here before (and other publications), but the good news is that some marinas on the lake sell gas with no ethanol. In particular, MVM is one. So while gas at the marina is more expensive, it could end up being less expensive in the long-run than ethanol-gas purchased at a regular gas station.

Why So?
 

Why can we not use ethanol mixes in our boats? Is it ethanol's tendancy to suspend water?

Yes, we do have the cheapest gas. But in England where gas is $6.00 per gallon 80% is for taxes. So they pay at the pump for services that the state provides.
Our gas is not taxed as high but I would bet that our Federal and state taxes pay for many services that Europe's gas tax provides.
It is like saying N.H has no state employment tax or sales tax . We have the lowest taxes in the country. Not when you figure we have the highest real estate taxes.

your correct,ethanol reaches a saturation and drops to the bottom of your tank then getting picked up and put onto your fuel delivery system. First thing most boaters notice is an idling problem then stalling.Make sure your changing those fuel filters twice as often if you've run ethanol enriched fuel

Same For Cars
 

I guess the same would apply to our cars.

Gas At Irwin's
 

I filled up my Sea Ray at Irwin's on Friday for $3.39.

44 gallons for $150:fire:

Let us not forget that Exxon/Mobile has been posting profits in excess of $9,000,000,000 per quarter. That's right more than $9 billion every three months. I think it is absolutely criminal and our government is derelict of their duty to watch out for the consumers.

I think the problem is the greedy bastards (elected officials) are having their pockets lined by the oil companies so they let them rape us with high prices at will. It is a shame.

The federal gov't probably makes $2 for every $1 that the oil companies make in profit, talk about a crime. Anyway, I didn't read anywhere in the constitution about the gov't responsibility to protect us from high prices.

Lake Winnipesaukee, (lake content, something our two posts need :) )

...six pounds
 

A gallon of gasoline weighs about six pounds so a six gallon plastic, portable gas tank weighs about 38 pounds. A Meredith Village Savings rewards card will knock six cents off a gallon at the Mobil directly across Route 3 from the Meredith Town Docks, plus they have coffee, sandwiches, newspapers, and lots of hot water in the restroom, and oh yes, the free Laconia Daily Sun which is an excellent local source.

Am seeing lots of aluminum fishing boats in the 16 to 18' range like Lund, Spectrum, Lowe, Crestliner, & Princecraft sporting 50-90hp four-strokes, and very few Fountains, Formulas, and Bajas. Now, that cannot be due to the high price of gasoline, so it must just be due the cool temps. All the Baja guys must be busy waxing all that fiberglass in their heated garages, or something.

Yesterday afternoon, saw big Lee Raymond, former 12 year ceo of Exxon-Mobil cruise past buoy three at 65mph being chased by the Marine Patrol. Big Lee was driving an 88' Fountain, all black & grey racer checked, and powered by four inboard-outboards. A very impressive motorboat! He got pulled over and probably hit with an 88 dollar speeding ticket. Here in NH, big money does not get you any political favors.

Fll
 

Was that an 88 foot fountain or a 1988 fountain? If it was 88 feet, where do you dock it?:laugh:

even figuring real estate taxes we still end up among the lowest. RE taxes are high but I pay less between 2 houses here in NH than I would with 1 house and the income and property taxes of any of our neighboring states.

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...005/index.html

Why shouldn't the oil companies be allowed to charge whatever price the market will support? We have a market driven economy. That is what capitalism is. If we want cheaper gas, then we need to find a way to devalue it. Can you imagine what the first viable alternative to gas or the combustion powered vehicle would be worth? I don't understand why when it comes to gas we all spend so much time complaining about the price and so little on taking advantage of what could be an opportunity.

Current Gas Prices
 

FYI Fay's was $3.40 yesterday.

Filler Up:eek:

Not the Constitution the secretary of energy
 

See attached link. The number one priority is to provide affordable energy.
http://www.energy.gov/about/index.htm

Just came off a week fishing trip to Lake Shasta, in Northern California---$4.59/gal. at the Marina