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Credit Card Fraud
My wife and I recently had fraudulent charges put on both our credit cards. Visa determined the dates the numbers were stolen, hers in early July and mine mid August. We used the cards at the Town Docks restaurant in Meredith on both those days. Either someone put a scanner on their credit card machine or an employee stole and sold the numbers.
If you used your card there over the summer, keep an eye on your charges. Since the dates were over a month apart, they must have gotten a lot of numbers. |
If you use your card all the time or fairly regular how can they determine when the numbers were taken months later? Doesn't make any sense. They know someone didn't copy the numbers three weeks ago? Again just doesn't sound right I've never heard of that. Also if numbers had been taken (has happened to me) people usually make a quick hit on the card right away.
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If it was a lower-class CC theft ring, many of the numbers were sold to a single perso/group, or a relatively small group of people. They'll often use similar methods to first validate the cards with test charges (a small online purchase or donation, write the numbers to an old card (mag stripe reader/writers are cheap) and buy some gas, etc.). After the cards are verified, the thieves will frequently make multiple purchases of high value items that are easy to resell (iPads, etc.). The credit card company is most likely looking at a dataset where the fraudulent charges have a lot in common across multiple cards, and then they trace those cards back to look for common establishments where ALL the cards were used. You tend to end up with a pretty narrowly defined set of merchants that all those card holders would have shopped at. Then you look for cases where number skimming of various sorts is easy to do. Restaurants are the most common culprit by far. Grocery stores almost never, small boutique stores almost never, gas stations possibly (though skimmers on gas pumps are pretty rare). So, nothing against Town Docks, but it fits the profile... |
I have had a credit card violated twice. Both times a copy of the card was made and used for fuel far from where we live or travel. The perps who commit these crimes are pretty knowledgeable. Unless you never used the card anywhere else I think singling out the "Town Docks" was a bit of a knee jerk reaction.
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Twins, Thank you for the heads up @ your credit cards. I will closely examine my hubby's records. We were at the mentioned establishment a few times this summer and I remember exactly when, so this will help in my check. I had my credit card numbers stolen two years ago and never let the card out of my hands. Bank of America believed it to be hackers. My daughter had her numbers stolen and it was believed that her numbers were hacked from Live Nation when she bought concert tickets. Again, thanks for looking out for others.
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The credit card stopped the charges and gave me a credit. It seems like an easy way to steal by using the card at a gas station. If that was a local station it probably would have gone unnoticed. My wife still had her card so they must have duplicated it somehow, |
I ate there several times over the summer and never had a problem.
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I'm not an expert on the security CC companies use, but it doesn't seem too difficult to imagine they would have a way of tagging the cards with tracking data each time you swipe it so that if the magnetic strip is copied, they could track it. The company knew exactly when the cards were copied. I pictured a server swiping the card on their own device and then using the restaurants swiper.. They copy the magnetic strip, make new cards from blanks and then sell them all over the world. Make them all summer.
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They (credit cards) don't do the vigilant following up on these charges most people think they do. Today most stores have cameras all around registers recording a lot. They consider it a cost of doing business unfortunately it's cheaper sometimes to write something off than bother persuing the culprits. That's why they're so quick to write off charges.
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Credit Card Fraud
You will also find the ccard companies are much more diligent about frequent same day, unusual charges. AMEX is particularly quick to notify us of unusual activity and have us confirm the charges. Can be a bit of a hassle, but it's a big part of their management of fraudulent charges.
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There is no practical way to know when or if card data has been copied. All you can do is correlate fraudulent charges after the fact back to one or more merchants that the affected cards had in common. |
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Do not use $10,000 credit limit cards in places you are not positive are reputable. Always use cards with a low limit. This Friday I fly to Kauai for a friends wedding. I am only taking my $1500.00 limit cards with me, and I have notified my banks that I will be traveling, and they will monitor them for me. It's just what I do.....:D
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Given the greater protection afforded credit cards over debit cards, I favor credit cards. Large chain based gas stations and retailers are safe with a debit card. All small places and all restaurants get credit cards.
I'm not sure why the credit limit is an issue, you're only responsible for $50 on credit card fraud. |
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Besides, I have 2 credit cards. One for business expenses, one for household. Not sure why you'd want to have a "selection" of cards to choose from. Not to mention, $1500 doesn't go that far in Hawaii :) |
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granted I think laws have changed where credit card companies can't decline you for going over a specified limit. There may be fees associated though. |
Happened
Last week I got a call from DiscoverCard asking me about some changes.It turns out that someone started charging in the Denver area. They had got into my account and changed my profile(address name etc) I usually do not charge big ticket items with that card. I used it in NH at the same time as they used it to charge $1600 $400. Discover cancelled the charges, froze the card and am giving me a new card with new numbers etc. I liked the way they handled it. They are investigating how it happened but think it was a hack into their system.
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Guess I spoke to soon, Had $217 charged to my discover card on the 27 of November by EURO PRO OPERATING LLC. I have my account set so I get an email from Discover when my monthly total goes above 500. So as soon as this charge was made I knew and called Discover. I also called EURO PRO OPERATING LLC and was given the name and address of the person the item was shipped to in Appalachian ,NY. Funny they charged the item the day after my November bill was due.
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Hands Free Pickpocketing
I recently learned of another way credit card information is stolen without ever leaving your wallet.
http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-frau...pocketing.html |
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