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uschisk 06-04-2013 01:10 PM

Island Camp Homeowners Insurance?
 
Hello -

Our island insurance bill this year increased by 50%, so I am looking around for other options. I contacted Allstate, which has our home/umbrella policy/cars, etc and they say they are unable to insure the island home.

I'm wondering what all the other islanders are doing? Any recommendations? Anyone else see a crazy increase like that?

Thank you!

Slickcraft 06-04-2013 01:19 PM

The Concord Group
 
We got it through Wainwright Insurance Services in Alton, part of the Cross group of agencies. Reasonable rates so far.

http://www.crossagency.com/index.cfm/cdid/10666

AC2717 06-04-2013 01:45 PM

check out an independant agent that has Vermont Mutual, or Pheonix Mutual

Diana 06-04-2013 02:36 PM

Melcher and Prescott in Laconia, I think they hooked us up with our Vermont Mutual policy.

MAXUM 06-04-2013 06:46 PM

I have State Farm.

ishoot308 06-04-2013 07:25 PM

State Farm
 
State Farm here also and they have been great. We have an umbrella policy with them as well.

Dan

codeman671 06-04-2013 07:53 PM

We use Portsmouth Atlantic insurance. I believe the carrier is Hanover.

I have used Farm Family in Concord as well.

kauriel 06-04-2013 10:06 PM

Do any of these companies also operate in MA? I would love to find a single insurance company for our home & vehicles in MA as well as our condo in NH.

Dave M 06-05-2013 07:09 AM

Options
 
Metropolitan & Liberty Mutual in MA covers NH.

Dave M

Winnisquamguy 06-05-2013 07:41 AM

We just dropped Progressive and went with State Farm in Lacoinia Mike Testa

Barney Bear 06-05-2013 02:34 PM

Island Cottage Insurance
 
We have been insured by Vermont Mutual since 1968. Obtained our policy through Melcher and Prescott in Laconia.

SteveA 06-08-2013 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uschisk (Post 205176)
Hello -

Our island insurance bill this year increased by 50%, so I am looking around for other options. I contacted Allstate, which has our home/umbrella policy/cars, etc and they say they are unable to insure the island home.

I'm wondering what all the other islanders are doing? Any recommendations? Anyone else see a crazy increase like that?

Thank you!

Talk to Tom at Allstate in Gilford, I think they do island homes, unless something has changed. Great guy, has had all of our cars and boat and both our house and cottage.

603-293-0155

Little Bear 06-08-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauriel (Post 205218)
Do any of these companies also operate in MA? I would love to find a single insurance company for our home & vehicles in MA as well as our condo in NH.

Contact Metropolitan and inquire about their Grand Protect product. I have all of my properties (including island) cars, boats and excess liability under one policy. It saves a ton of money. Good luck.

jazzman 06-09-2013 05:29 AM

I too had a lot of problems finding insurance for my island home. I ended up with Concord Group Insurance. They wanted my main house and cars as well to do business and I ended up with great rates on everything.

Avery Insurance in Wolfeboro represents them (as well as many other independent insurance agents).

Oddly, I'd had Metropolitan for 20+ years and they wouldn't even talk to me about it.

codeman671 07-12-2013 01:22 PM

I just got my renewal from Hanover, my rate has doubled this year. They are claiming that they had island properties rated in the same risk category as mainland homes and when they found the error it doubled the rate. I went from $523 to just over $1k based on a $399k replacement value and $2500 deductible.

What are others paying?

ishoot308 07-12-2013 05:34 PM

Sounds Right
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 207809)
I just got my renewal from Hanover, my rate has doubled this year. They are claiming that they had island properties rated in the same risk category as mainland homes and when they found the error it doubled the rate. I went from $523 to just over $1k based on a $399k replacement value and $2500 deductible.

What are others paying?

That sounds right in line with what we are paying. I know ours is just around $1000.00 for full replacement value. I think your quote is O.K.

Dan

AC2717 07-15-2013 07:58 AM

unfortuntley:
we all in the Northeast Region have been lucky the past couple of years with extremely reduced rates, but since the country has taken a beating in the insurance world across the country, they are adjusting rates and increasing them. But it is actually more in line with where they should be originally. When you look at it, all though we all love cheap priced insurance for quality coverage just like everything else, when the fun (great prices) end, we look at it and say wow now I am getting screwed. The market is correcting itself. $1,000 for a island camp which more than likely will be a total loss in the event of a fire, snow damage, does not seem like much, now go 30 years without something happening and that is $30,000 in insurance. but at the same token, if it burns down in the 30th year then you paid $30,000 in insurace for them to give you up to $397,500 or a payout if you are liabile for anything you might do on or off your property or if someone gets hurt on your property and that is with a dock, swim area, no immediate medical care while on the island

Tough pill to swallow but being in the business this is what is trending. you might be able to get a close price for the next year or two, but will all eventually been within 15% of each others pricing real soon

Bodhi 08-07-2013 10:14 AM

insurance costs/estimates
 
WE are being dropped by Phenix- our carrier doesn't work with them- got quote from Foremost Insurance through USAA- log cabin is tough plus not having year round access to fire dept- quote is $2854 $500 deduct $2723 for $1000 deduct- coverage for 246,000 plus 24,600 for outbuildings- sounds VERY high
more than double what Phenix was-

codeman671 11-26-2013 04:58 PM

Resurrecting an older thread...

I am trying to help someone one on island insurance. He is looking for a company that insures log homes, on an island, but does not require you to package all properties into one policy.

We use Hanover for ours but they require a package deal. Anyone out there using a separate provider for their island property than their main home? And anyone in the log home situation as well?

Bear Islander 11-26-2013 07:25 PM

My island home is insured by Lloyds of London through DeCotis Insurance in Braintree, MA. $1,303 premium plus inspection for 450k of coverage.

They had a simple one page application that I just checked. No question or mention of Log Homes. No other insurance required.

I hope this works for you.

Blue Thunder 11-27-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 215322)
Resurrecting an older thread...

I am trying to help someone one on island insurance. He is looking for a company that insures log homes, on an island, but does not require you to package all properties into one policy.

We use Hanover for ours but they require a package deal. Anyone out there using a separate provider for their island property than their main home? And anyone in the log home situation as well?

Codeman,
Did you end up staying with Hanover? You were considering a change earlier in this thread due to a significant increase in premium.

BT

whalebackpoint'r 11-27-2013 06:57 AM

York Ins. Co, through Cross Agency

MAXUM 11-27-2013 08:36 AM

OK I get the whole island thing far as insurance goes... but what's the deal with log cabins? Sure the construction is a little different but why would an insurance company not like them any more than a timber framed, or something built with SIPS (structural insulated panels)?

Still with State Farm and very happy with them. Coverage is a little more expensive but I can understand that, after much discussion with my agent as we were writing up the binder for it, he basically said this is high risk/catestrophic coverage. They just assume that if the place ever goes up in flames it's a total loss. IF there are any damage claims they are figuring on 2-3 times the cost to repair. Thankfully I just have a simple little camp so teh cost isn't to bad. The insurance bills on some of the nicer island "homes" must be pretty significant.

codeman671 11-27-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 215337)
Codeman,
Did you end up staying with Hanover? You were considering a change earlier in this thread due to a significant increase in premium.

BT

Yes, I am still with Hanover. We had an insurance claim this year due to a failed window that caused some water damage, so we figured that we would stay with them and revisit after the claim was over. Honestly they were great to deal with, paid everything asked for and did not fight at all on the claim so I am very pleased with them in the end.

The question was actually being posed for someone else, a buyer for our home. He doesn't want to combine policies with his primary for some reason unbeknownst to me.

Blue Thunder 11-27-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 215343)
Yes, I am still with Hanover. We had an insurance claim this year due to a failed window that caused some water damage, so we figured that we would stay with them and revisit after the claim was over. Honestly they were great to deal with, paid everything asked for and did not fight at all on the claim so I am very pleased with them in the end.

The question was actually being posed for someone else, a buyer for our home. He doesn't want to combine policies with his primary for some reason unbeknownst to me.

Yeah, got that but I was going back to your OP about Hanover increasing your premium and what was the reason. The exact same thing happened to many of my fellow islanders over on Sebago this past season. In some cases the premium doubled for no reason and they had to look elsewhere.

codeman671 11-27-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 215356)
Yeah, got that but I was going back to your OP about Hanover increasing your premium and what was the reason. The exact same thing happened to many of my fellow islanders over on Sebago this past season. In some cases the premium doubled for no reason and they had to look elsewhere.

They indicated that they had it rated wrong. They had it rated as a mainland property which would be easier to insure due to availability of public services such as fire and police. Typically if an island property catches fire, by the time the fire department arrives they better bring marshmallows instead of hoses.

Plumberswife 11-28-2013 10:06 PM

We have Chalmers for an agent and Vermont Mutual for our carrier. They're wonderful


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