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CateP 08-28-2013 12:53 PM

Recommendation for Vinyl Siding Installer
 
Hi there.
Searched this forum before posting thinking there MUST be posts about this topic, but last one was 2005.

Anyway, I am helping out a friend who does not live here year-round, but wants to have her garage vinyl sided to match her house. Can anyone recommend vinyl siding installers in the area?

Hoping to get three quotes.

Thanks in advance.

BroadHopper 08-28-2013 01:45 PM

Vinyl Sidings.
 
Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

ITD 08-28-2013 03:48 PM

Hi Cate,

I have two houses, one with cedar claps and the other with vinyl. If I had my choice, I would not buy another house that needs to be painted. We have been in the vinyl sided house since it was new, 15 years now, and the vinyl still looks like new. I've had it pressure washed once, about 2 years ago. The house with the clapboards, looks great for about 2 or 3 years then needs attention. Just make sure you use quality siding, my house has the high grade certainteed. Don't know any contractors up here, but don't let the naysayers dissuade you, I have vinyl and love it and it looks great.

WinniQueen 08-28-2013 04:40 PM

Call Quality Insulation in Meredith 279-3371

SIKSUKR 08-28-2013 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=BroadHopper;211122]Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.
[QUOTE]

I beg to differ.I chose a vinyl shake and love how it looks....and doesn't want paint!Not sure where you came up with the rot theory.If anything vinyl has much more air movement through it than wood clapboards.All Azek trim.Zero painting.

tis 08-28-2013 06:23 PM

The new vinyl shingles look a LOT better than they used to. I love no maintenance now too.

Slickcraft 08-28-2013 07:16 PM

Vinyl is final!
 
BH, you are a bit out of date on this. Vinyl is used on a good share of new homes and top quality material is available.

Our prior home in Danville had quality vinyl. 15 years ago we moved up here to a very nice house except for the cedar siding. I am now in the process of my 3rd application of stain. We have been looking for a smaller house off the hillside and immediately reject any without vinyl siding. I have had quite enough siding maintenance.

fpartri497 08-28-2013 07:50 PM

ceader siding
 
I have owned my home for 24 yrs. now and every five years I have to power wash and stain the cedar clareboards . I will never buy a house like this again with this siding

:eek:

chasedawg 08-28-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 211122)
Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

Broadhopper where did you come up with your rot discovery? You are so wrong. Please don't just come on the forum and spread inaccurate information. Your added statement about used car salesmen is so inappropriate. Please add some value when you decide to make statements to a public forum.

sky's 08-29-2013 07:18 AM

BH is somewhat correct it is nearly impossible to waterproof your house with vinyl siding. until you're in the business of repairing houses and building them you would not understand this. getting 3 quotes great but understand each of them , understand their process for going around your windows and doors because that is where most leaks occur with vinyl siding. good luck dont take the lowest estimate go with the person who spends the most time with you explaining their techniques and the materials they use. good luck.:) wow what a summer

tis 08-29-2013 07:54 AM

You could also try the "cement" sidings. They are pretty maintenance free too. We have that on our house now (clapboards) as well as the new vinyl shingles which look an awful lot like wood now.

sluggo 08-29-2013 09:04 AM

I had Paul Baldwin , building & design side my house a couple of years ago. He did a fantastic job and his pricing was right on the money. Give him a call 603-264-4582

ishoot308 08-29-2013 11:17 AM

Rain Screen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sky's (Post 211180)
BH is somewhat correct it is nearly impossible to waterproof your house with vinyl siding. until you're in the business of repairing houses and building them you would not understand this. getting 3 quotes great but understand each of them , understand their process for going around your windows and doors because that is where most leaks occur with vinyl siding. good luck dont take the lowest estimate go with the person who spends the most time with you explaining their techniques and the materials they use. good luck.:) wow what a summer

I'm sure you know this but vinyl siding or any siding for that matter is not supposed to be waterproof. All siding works off the rain screen principle. Vinyl siding allows for air circulation and proper drainage. What and how the substrate is applied will determine how waterproof the exterior of the house is.

Dan

Orion 08-29-2013 12:15 PM

Speaking from experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 211122)
Who still use them? I do know they cause rot underneath the siding and that they look so cheap.

Sorry, they use to be so many vinyl siding contractors that we use to compare them to used car salesmen.

Clearly a misinformed post. I had my winter home vinyl sided 30 years ago and it still looks as good as the day it was installed. How many times would I have had to repaint in that period if it was wood (an organic material that absorbs water when the paint seal deteriorates...and was used 1,000 years ago.) also, there are high-quality vinyl "shingles" that are pretty tough to distinguish from their inferior wood counterparts.

My summer lake house (of 12yrs) is also maintenance-free vinyl and I would never go any other way.

DickR 08-29-2013 03:49 PM

To add to Dan's comment in post #13, here is an excellent paper on the subject of having a rainscreen gap behind the siding, an important detail for any new home or residing job. It's from a noted building science expert:
http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...ind-the-gap-eh

BroadHopper 08-29-2013 04:10 PM

Vinyl Sidings.
 
My dad had the cheap thin vinyl sidings that use to cost an arm and a leg back in the 60's. Bird drippings practically melted the sidings and the south side faded pretty fast. After a decade of BS from the mfg. we replace the vinyl sidings with fibrecrete. When we took off the vinyl sidings the old clapboards were rotted and the water channeled onto the sills and rotted them out too. My father was a carpenter and he saw his share of rot under vinyl sidings. The fibrecrete is much more durable and still in use.

I notice the vinyl shingles aka certainteed are a lot thicker and more durable than the old vinyl siding. I'm sure there must be better vinyl sidings today, however I was looking at a brand new stick built home that had the flimsy vinyl siding of old. They still make them. It was buckling all over the house and the seams shows. Maybe half a$$ installation? I don't know.

sky's 08-29-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 211201)
I'm sure you know this but vinyl siding or any siding for that matter is not supposed to be waterproof. All siding works off the rain screen principle. Vinyl siding allows for air circulation and proper drainage. What and how the substrate is applied will determine how waterproof the exterior of the house is.

Dan

figure of speech on waterproofing, poorly installed vinyl like improper use of j channel can cause alot of damage to homes . was not to trying to reinvent the wheel. hope everybody had a great summer. best wishes to all.:)

Fargo 09-01-2013 07:43 AM

Installer
 
Jim French Home Improvements 524-8888 vinyl sided a friends house 5 years ago, attention to details made it look fantastic. For other folks, if your paint is failing in a few short years it may be caused by interior house moisture trying to escape. An energy audit might determine why you need to paint a house every few years. ( I don't paint, do energy audits or vinyl siding )

DickR 09-01-2013 02:06 PM

On the subject of paint failing within a few years, here is a link to an article titled: "Rain-Screen Walls: a Better Way to Install Siding," from Fine Homebuilding 137 , pp. 86-91 March 1, 2001.

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/pdf/021137086.pdf

Yes, paint failure often relates to moisture accumulation behind the siding. Sometimes it's due to excessive moisture leaking outward from within the house, and sometimes it's just due to the inability of siding to dry out quickly after wind-driven rain gets behind the siding, something that can and does happen to almost any kind of siding.

ITD 09-01-2013 03:54 PM

I have stain, pretty much fades away after a few years then starts to mildew. Newer house, 6 inch fully insulated walls. The vinyl sided house, no repaint, no fade, needed to be powerwashed after 14 years, looks good as new. No competition in my mind, but I understand you wood aficionados out there.... Have at it!!

XJLPS 09-02-2013 09:18 AM

Vinyl siding
 
I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

eric richard 09-02-2013 05:22 PM

vinyl siding
 
Hi Cate,
My name is Eric owner of Eric's & Phil's Home Improvement LLC. I have been installing vinyl siding for 6 years and I would be more then happy to give you a quote on siding the garage. I am fully insured and have good reference.I work all over the lake region.You can contact me at (603)923-3801 or you can email me at Y691234@aol.com. Hope to hear from you soon .
Thank you
Eric Richard
Owner
(603)923-3801 cell
(603)509-3880 office

sky's 09-02-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJLPS (Post 211431)
I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...

i'll second that. :)

ITD 09-02-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJLPS (Post 211431)
I believe Cate P was looking for a contractor not a bunch of opinions on what's good and bad about vinyl she's just looking for a couple of quote's ... Nothing like making a mountain out of a mole hill ...


Hmmmm, you apparently are not too experienced with this internet thingie...:D

SIKSUKR 09-03-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 211226)
I notice the vinyl shingles aka certainteed are a lot thicker and more durable than the old vinyl siding. I'm sure there must be better vinyl sidings today, however I was looking at a brand new stick built home that had the flimsy vinyl siding of old. They still make them. It was buckling all over the house and the seams shows. Maybe half a$$ installation? I don't know.

Definately a half a$$ instaliation. Vinyl siding buckles if the nails are set tight. The vinyl expands a lot and needs to be able to move.

CateP 09-03-2013 09:07 AM

Thanks all for the recommendations for installers. Very much appreciated.


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