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ishoot308 02-26-2017 08:50 AM

And just like that...
 
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...the ice is gone!

chachee52 02-26-2017 09:44 AM

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Here's a look from water side. The first with ice was yesterday around 2pm, then the open water one was taken just now, at 8:45. What a difference Rain and wind will make. Hope everyone has gotten their bobhouses off the ice!!
The pics are looking over toward Scenic Drive and Locke Island.

Top-Water 02-26-2017 10:05 AM

Thanks for the post, was really wondering what the condition of the ice was.

Was driving by Lake Massabesic in Auburn yesterday and it has a large opening up of the ice as well and could not help but wonder if someone would post something about winni soon.

Great news for us folks that can't wait to get back out on the water.

tis 02-26-2017 10:21 AM

That's amazing! Thanks for posting! I think it is going to be an early ice out.

MAXUM 02-26-2017 10:36 AM

And it's windy today that's going to really start ripping that ice up good. Could be another year where permanent docks take a beating. There may not have been a ton of ice out there this year but get big enough slabs of solid ice breaking free and smashing into things will certainly wreck whatever is in it's path.

Slickcraft 02-26-2017 11:23 AM

Walking on Belknap Point Road this morning I could see that the open water extended to the north east side of Welch. There is still ice between Belknap Point and Welch.

Doobs41378 02-26-2017 12:12 PM

If that is LSP then my grandparent's cottage is right next to the yellow one ( to the left of it) in this picture. Many a summers spent there.

chachee52 02-26-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Doobs41378 (Post 274860)
If that is LSP then my grandparent's cottage is right next to the yellow one ( to the left of it) in this picture. Many a summers spent there.

It is LSP. Been up here all my life. Have MANY photo albums of sunsets.

Lakegeezer 02-26-2017 02:50 PM

Guessing with models
 
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While pouring over data to make my 2017 ice out guess (which is rarely close), here is an interesting trend line over the last 130 years to share. I used a 5'th order polynomial trend line, keeping in mind that all models are wrong, some are useful. :-)

Slickcraft 02-26-2017 04:20 PM

lg: It looks like the variance has been fairly constant over time.

FlyingScot 02-26-2017 04:57 PM

Looks like steady climate change
 
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Originally Posted by Slickcraft (Post 274866)
lg: It looks like the variance has been fairly constant over time.

It's true that if one only focuses on the single data point for each year then it looks like "the variance has been fairly constant over time". But lg's smoothing curve averages recent data so that a naked eye is not fooled by year to year noise.

The chart actually shows 40 years of warming from the the 1970s to today.

lakershaker 02-26-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterG (Post 274872)
It's true that if one only focuses on the single data point for each year then it looks like "the variance has been fairly constant over time". But lg's smoothing curve averages recent data so that a naked eye is not fooled by year to year noise.

The chart actually shows 40 years of warming from the the 1970s to today.

Actually, the chart shows ice out happening earlier over 40 years from 1970s to today. I don't see any reference to temperature. As people on the lake know, there are variables other than just temperature that determine ice-in and ice-out days. Wind being another major one.

FlyingScot 02-27-2017 01:18 AM

Puh-lease...
 
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Originally Posted by lakershaker (Post 274889)
Actually, the chart shows ice out happening earlier over 40 years from 1970s to today. I don't see any reference to temperature. As people on the lake know, there are variables other than just temperature that determine ice-in and ice-out days. Wind being another major one.

I stand corrected, there was no reference to temperature. Rather than "warming", I should have said "warming effects". For we all know that there is a huge volume of data elsewhere that show our climate has warmed over the past 40 years, and that trend is well illustrated by the chart.

Wind speed, precipitation, sunshine, and other factors that have not shown steady trends over the decades would be likely causes of the sharp year-to-year variability. That's another reason why the smoothing is helpful.

Blue Thunder 02-27-2017 03:11 PM

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And the ice conditions referenced above look like this today...

SIKSUKR 02-27-2017 03:14 PM

Hi BT.Can you provide that direct link to those daily sat pics?Thanks.

HellRaZoR004 02-27-2017 03:56 PM

http://ge.ssec.wisc.edu/modis-today/

Blue Thunder 02-27-2017 04:11 PM

The above is correct. You then click on the northeast pic (pics are taken at different times of the day as the satellite passes by) Then select 250m and you'll get a pretty high resolution pic you can zoom in on. Typically those are the pics I post here. Pic is usually available between noon and 1pm depending on DST or EST

BT

SIKSUKR 03-03-2017 11:31 AM

Thanks guys. For some reason I'm not getting any pic at all, just an outline of the states.

billy 03-03-2017 11:46 AM

per Blue Thunder post above
 
Pic is usually available between noon and 1pm depending on DST or EST

SIKSUKR 03-07-2017 11:23 AM

I'm getting it now. Thanks


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