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nhjenny 05-03-2018 12:24 PM

Need a plumber at Island house
 
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!


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MDoug 05-03-2018 12:37 PM

plumber
 
Call Archie at 603-387-3168

He is our favorite over the years!

Biggd 05-03-2018 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nhjenny (Post 294206)
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!


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They have DIY quick connectors now at most big hardware stores. A couple of quick connect unions, no soldering, a piece of copper pipe, a tubing cutter and you can fix it pretty quick yourself. Better still, make one of those unions a shut off valve.

Slickcraft 05-03-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 294208)
They have DIY quick connectors now at most big hardware stores. A couple of quick connect unions, no soldering, a piece of copper pipe, a tubing cutter and you can fix it pretty quick yourself. Better still, make one of those unions a shut off valve.

Exactly. Go to a hardware store and ask someone in plumbing dept exactly what you need. Add a small pack of steel wool to clean each short section of pipe that the quick connect valve or union is pressed onto.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1...ing/1000182685

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1...ing/1000182685

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thinkxingu 05-03-2018 02:02 PM

What're the thoughts on quick connect fittings today? Used to be that they should only be used temporarily or for exposed applications.

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swnoel 05-03-2018 02:04 PM

Use one of these... they're pretty simple!
https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-1...ing/1000182579

swnoel 05-03-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 294210)
What're the thoughts on quick connect fittings today? Used to be that they should only be used temporarily or for exposed applications.

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They're considered a permanent repair.

Rusty 05-03-2018 02:22 PM

This video is what I think you might want to consider. It is code compliant and easy to do.

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SteveO123 05-03-2018 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nhjenny (Post 294206)
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!


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I second (third, fourth?) the Shark/Gator Solutions.. It sounds like you need to cap the broken line to be able to turn the water on for the rest of the house.(?). If so, cut the line and snap a cap on the line until you can get a plumber there...then you can manually fill the toilet tank as needed to flush. Cost you less than $20 even if you need to buy a pipe cutter.
Good luck!
Steve

feb 05-03-2018 05:02 PM

Still good for under house?
 
any opinions if this approach is good for a situation where camp is up on piers, pipes are exposed to freezing temps. Sure the pipes are drained via gravity but a little bit of water, a little bit of plastic and freezing temps make me think they may not stand up too long.

Rusty 05-03-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by feb (Post 294217)
any opinions if this approach is good for a situation where camp is up on piers, pipes are exposed to freezing temps. Sure the pipes are drained via gravity but a little bit of water, a little bit of plastic and freezing temps make me think they may not stand up too long.

I have outside sharkbite fittings that have been exposed to -20 deg's during the winter months & they haven't cracked or leaked when I turn the water on in the spring. These fittings are unbelievable.

Grady223 05-05-2018 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nhjenny (Post 294206)
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!


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Prestige Worldwide 05-05-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nhjenny (Post 294206)
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!


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Call Nick at 603-582-1553
This is his cell#. He has a Baja outlaw on the water on Long Island. It's set up for Plumbing service calls and rapid response to island properties on Winnipesaukee.

http://bellemoreplumbing.com

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swnoel 05-05-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by feb (Post 294217)
any opinions if this approach is good for a situation where camp is up on piers, pipes are exposed to freezing temps. Sure the pipes are drained via gravity but a little bit of water, a little bit of plastic and freezing temps make me think they may not stand up too long.

Just curious if you've had problems with this current situation? The company I worked for would never guarantee just blowing lines out or gravity , we'd install RV antifreeze in the entire system and have never had a failure due to this solution. We've used hundreds of sharkbite fittings in areas below freezing with no consequences to the fitting.

Descant 05-05-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nhjenny (Post 294206)
I finally got here to open up our house on Sleeper’s Island. Trying to get water up and running, but we have had a break in a 1/2 copper line from freezing (first time that’s ever happened). This line just goes to a main floor toilet, but there is no valve to shut off the line, so we can’t turn on the water. Does anyone have suggestions for someone who could fix this, even better if it could be done today?? Left a message with Island services, looking for additional options. TIA!

I hope you'll let us know how things worked out. This is a tough time of year to get somebody to an island on short notice

They may not yet be open, but I bet if you ask around, you'll find many islanders have developed some handy skills. You might also be surprised at the parts inventory that exists in those sheds behind the camp, as well as specialty tools.
I had a boat sink at the dock once (pinholes in the bellows) and shortly after we arrived a friend showed up with a jack intended to level his boat house, and a couple of extra pumps.. We lifted it to gunwales at water level and had a drink while we watched the pumps work. Easy. Who knew?

jazzman 05-09-2026 01:07 PM

Island Plumbers
 
Any modern updates for this? Leaking how water tank and very ageing pump/pressure tank on Barndoor Island. Looking for a plumber with a boat. I don't really want to put a HW tank leaking rust in my boat :-)

TheTimeTraveler 05-09-2026 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzman (Post 407177)
Any modern updates for this? Leaking how water tank and very ageing pump/pressure tank on Barndoor Island. Looking for a plumber with a boat. I don't really want to put a HW tank leaking rust in my boat :-)

Suggest you put in an "on demand" hot water heater. It is very small and you won't have to deal with a bad rusting tank in 15 years.

The downside is you need the power capability in your electric box to run this unless you use natural or bottled gas. Also they are known for needing replacement around the 10 year mark.

jazzman 05-11-2026 10:20 AM

Never mind. They use a ton of power. I'm already out of breaker slots and the breaker panel is already in a non code place

The Real BigGuy 05-18-2026 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by swnoel (Post 294275)
Just curious if you've had problems with this current situation? The company I worked for would never guarantee just blowing lines out or gravity , we'd install RV antifreeze in the entire system and have never had a failure due to this solution. We've used hundreds of sharkbite fittings in areas below freezing with no consequences to the fitting.

I've been gravitying out my water system for 30 yrs with no issues accept when i forgot to leave a valve open and the water stayed in the pipe under the sink. I do put non-toxic anti-freeze in all my sink/tub drains, the elbow on the upright for my washing machine, and the emptied toilet tank (I put a gallon or so in, flush then add a little more to the bowl.)

With regards to shark bites, worlds greatest invention for those of us who suck a soldering with the added benefits that: 1) you can use them to go from copper to PVC or vice versa ; and 2) you can easily disconnect them (if they are in an accessible location) to drain the pipe. The only thing that might be better is the compression tool that plumbers are using now to avoid soldering but, the issue with that is that it is far to expensive for a homeowner.

webmaster 05-18-2026 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 407319)
The only thing that might be better is the compression tool that plumbers are using now to avoid soldering but, the issue with that is that it is far to expensive for a homeowner.

I have to add that after we had renovations to our house we found that two new compression joints in the basement were dripping and had to be redone. Six years ago I put in eight Sharkbites myself to connect pex to copper and none of them ever dripped and are working perfectly.


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