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Chubby 05-06-2025 08:29 AM

Front License Plates ?
 
Does New Hampshire need to have a front license plate requirement ?

Twenty one states don't currently issue front license plates.

Plate reading technology devices work equally well in states that have only a rear facing license plate.

Modern vehicles often have active driver assistance safety features, including adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, and lane-keep assist, etc., which rely on sensors that must be placed in the front of the car to function.

Is it time to leap into the 21st century and phase out the wasteful second plate ?

Biggd 05-06-2025 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 400273)
Does New Hampshire need to have a front license plate requirement ?

Twenty one states don't currently issue front license plates.

Plate reading technology devices work equally well in states that have only a rear facing license plate.

Modern vehicles often have active driver assistance safety features, including adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, and lane-keep assist, etc., which rely on sensors that must be placed in the front of the car to function.

Is it time to leap into the 21st century and phase out the wasteful second plate ?

Then what would the prisoners do all day with less plates to make?

John Mercier 05-06-2025 11:20 AM

You would need to ask a legislator to enter it as an LSR.

The debate would be on savings (mostly to the State) as compared to value in the field.

On the inspection issue, some of the arguments about getting rid of any inspection was the restrictions placed in NH due to augmentation of a non-necessary nature.

For instance, failing an inspection because a fog light didn't work.
Or failing an inspection because of aftermarket window tinting.

The fog light issue was noted as being superficial, while the tinting was about the safety of a LEO to see movement within the vehicle during a stop.

TheTimeTraveler 05-06-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 400273)
Does New Hampshire need to have a front license plate requirement ?

Twenty one states don't currently issue front license plates.

Plate reading technology devices work equally well in states that have only a rear facing license plate.

Modern vehicles often have active driver assistance safety features, including adaptive cruise control, forward collision warning, and lane-keep assist, etc., which rely on sensors that must be placed in the front of the car to function.

Is it time to leap into the 21st century and phase out the wasteful second plate ?




Years ago I had heard that the city meter maids (Nashua, Manchester, Concord, Portsmouth) want the front license plates retained to make their job of writing tickets faster and more efficient.

Not sure that is the case anymore since traditional coin meters really don't exist anymore.

Chubby 05-06-2025 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 400281)
Then what would the prisoners do all day with less plates to make?

Ya... well Big GD, although this appears to be the best contra argument, I don't think we really want to know what prisoners do all day. That may not be a suitable discussion topic in polite company.

One plate wouldn't cut costs in half but it would cut costs and pollution.

Everything status quo doesn't qualify as Granite State tradition and culture.

John Mercier 05-06-2025 07:51 PM

It doesn't have to cut it in half.
Savings are savings.

FlyingScot 05-06-2025 08:21 PM

If memory serves, Mass tried to go from 2 plates to one decades ago. It created a black market of "front" license plates that various miscreants would use on the backs of their cars :eek:

Descant 05-07-2025 09:29 AM

When we celebrated our town's 250th anniversary, one of our legislators made it possible to use only a rear plate for two years. We made special memorial plates, approved by NH, and sold them as a fund raiser. You had to have one on the front; it was not an excuse to go without a front plate.

Chubby 05-07-2025 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 400294)
If memory serves, Mass tried to go from 2 plates to one decades ago. It created a black market of "front" license plates that various miscreants would use on the backs of their cars :eek:

Mass had just one plate for many years in the 70s and 80s. They still allow just one plate if it's the green plate (green characters instead of red numbers/letters). In 2025, the 21 states with one plate include huge states like Florida that have no issues. I'd rather let all the sensors have wider unobstructed ranges than status quo. NH didn't always have two plates. The front plate was added in NH long before you were born and the current technology hadn't been envisioned. Is it time for an update ?

FlyingScot 05-07-2025 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 400306)
Mass had just one plate for many years in the 70s and 80s. They still allow just one plate if it's the green plate (green characters instead of red numbers/letters). In 2025, the 21 states with one plate include huge states like Florida that have no issues. I'd rather let all the sensors have wider unobstructed ranges than status quo. NH didn't always have two plates. The front plate was added in NH long before you were born and the current technology hadn't been envisioned. Is it time for an update ?

I'm surprised to read that your car was not designed for the sensors to be unobstructed with a front plate. What are you driving?

Biggd 05-07-2025 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby (Post 400306)
Mass had just one plate for many years in the 70s and 80s. They still allow just one plate if it's the green plate (green characters instead of red numbers/letters). In 2025, the 21 states with one plate include huge states like Florida that have no issues. I'd rather let all the sensors have wider unobstructed ranges than status quo. NH didn't always have two plates. The front plate was added in NH long before you were born and the current technology hadn't been envisioned. Is it time for an update ?

Mass is vigorously trying to get rid of every last green plate. They are telling inspection stations to fail vehicles if that green plate is not pristine. Many of those green plates are faded from being out in the sun for many years. Of course, there are those few little old ladies that only drive to church on Sundays and their car is in the garage most of its life! :laugh:

AC2717 05-07-2025 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 400308)
Mass is vigorously trying to get rid of every last green plate. They are telling inspection stations to fail vehicles if that green plate is not pristine. Many of those green plates are faded from being out in the sun for many years. Of course, there are those few little old ladies that only drive to church on Sundays and their car is in the garage most of its life! :laugh:

They are but there are many reproduction companies that can make it for you, and its perfectly legal

TomC 05-08-2025 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 400308)
Mass is vigorously trying to get rid of every last green plate. They are telling inspection stations to fail vehicles if that green plate is not pristine. Many of those green plates are faded from being out in the sun for many years. Of course, there are those few little old ladies that only drive to church on Sundays and their car is in the garage most of its life! :laugh:

...because they have solved all the other problems in Massachusetts... :rolleye2:

Biggd 05-08-2025 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 400314)
...because they have solved all the other problems in Massachusetts... :rolleye2:

They have many of the same problems as every other State.

Kamper 05-08-2025 08:33 AM

For the police: It is easier to make out a plate that is approaching, than receding, especially with a trailer.

For drivers: It gives you a 'spare' if one gets stolen or falls off.

Also... Remember when they went from 2 inspections a year to 1? They doubled the fee. If they go from 2 plates to 1, the fee will stay the same. I would expect at some point they would go back to 2 plates but charge more because they -now- have to use twice as much materials!

TomC 05-08-2025 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 400316)
They have many of the same problems as every other State.

I lived in MA for nearly 60 years and am quite familiar with what the state does and doesn't do well...

Biggd 05-08-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 400321)
I lived in MA for nearly 60 years and am quite familiar with what the state does and doesn't do well...

I can see where this is going, have a nice day! :)

VitaBene 05-08-2025 12:44 PM

The local PDs like the front plate. They can pick up on unregistered cars as the are passing them without using their rear view mirror.

TheTimeTraveler 05-08-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AC2717 (Post 400311)
They are but there are many reproduction companies that can make it for you, and its perfectly legal



Some folks don't want to take work away from the inmates, lol.

VitaBene 05-09-2025 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AC2717 (Post 400311)
They are but there are many reproduction companies that can make it for you, and its perfectly legal

Yes in NH we can run old year specific plates on the corresponding model year. The plate needs to have the year in raised letters. I had https://restoreatag.com/see-our-work.html restore the plate for my 48 Indian Chief. It came out great!

ishoot308 05-09-2025 10:30 AM

Pics Please!
 
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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 400346)
Yes in NH we can run old year specific plates on the corresponding model year. The plate needs to have the year in raised letters. I had https://restoreatag.com/see-our-work.html restore the plate for my 48 Indian Chief. It came out great!

Would love to see pics of that Indian Chief John!!

Dan

Chubby 05-09-2025 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaBene (Post 400327)
The local PDs like the front plate. They can pick up on unregistered cars as the are passing them without using their rear view mirror.


Wait... what about motorcycles ?


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