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Dave M 05-29-2009 11:29 AM

Toilet ?
 
My daughter rents out a condo. They are having a problem with the toilet taking 4-5 mminutes to fill up. Assuming the shutoff is not fully off
would it be the valve fill assembly thats the problem.

Thanks in advance

Dave M

fatlazyless 05-29-2009 12:38 PM

...my advice....replace the tank valve with an 8-dollar Fluidmaster which will replace almost anything as it comes w/ 3 adapters & works real well, and submit a bill for eighty dollars to the landlord subtracted from next month's rent... & how much would a licensed plumber charge.....just ask Joe the Plumber....:D....remember him...

ITD 05-29-2009 02:00 PM

Dave, I wonder if a piece of crud has found it's way into the valve and or the shut off valve. I would remove the valve pull it apart and look for the problem. If you break it it needed to be replaced anyway. Good luck.

BGB2 05-29-2009 02:54 PM

Water Flow
 
Before making a repair, I recommend that you confirm the problem isn't somewhere unexpected. To illustrate, if the water is from a well there may be low pressure. Do neighbors have comparable problems? Also, repairs on rented properties can be problematic if the "repair" goes bad. Fixing plumbing problem tend to be either really easy or really difficult.

Good luck.

EZ-Pass 05-29-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave M (Post 95863)
My daughter rents out a condo. They are having a problem with the toilet taking 4-5 mminutes to fill up. Assuming the shutoff is not fully off
would it be the valve fill assembly thats the problem.

Thanks in advance

Dave M

The first thing I would do is to contact the property management people/landlord and let them deal with it. The cost to replace could be expensive if a plumber has to be called in to repair. :)

Dave M 05-29-2009 03:52 PM

Toilet ?
 
My daughter is the property management, I happen to be the one she
calls. I'm not a plumber per se but have done some plumbing,etc. Will not have any problem replacing the valve assy if neccessay. I'll check on the other fixtures in house to see if pressure is good and check out the existing valve assy as ITD suggested.

Thanks Again, this forum is always informative.

Dave M

Mee-n-Mac 05-29-2009 05:24 PM

New problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave M (Post 95863)
My daughter rents out a condo. They are having a problem with the toilet taking 4-5 mminutes to fill up. Assuming the shutoff is not fully off
would it be the valve fill assembly thats the problem.

Thanks in advance

Dave M

Did the toilet always do this or is it a new problem ? Assuming the latter, who last "fixed" the plumbing and what did they do ?

ApS 05-29-2009 06:11 PM

Shut-off Valve Issue [STRIKE]Problem[/STRIKE]
 
The last time I successfully fixed this issue, I turned the shut-off valve fully in—then fully out. It sounded a bit "crunchy" as the valve closed off the water supply, but the water flowed once again. :)

I don't know what the offending substance was, but it wasn't due to well water—which I've never had. Piped-in water can carry small rust particles which can collect in places such as small valves—a likely problem with Town water.

(This particular shutoff valve is the one located below the tank near the floor. My 53-year old place never had a shut-off valves, and consequently has never had a shut-off valve failure!) :)

Another valve—made of brass and located inside the tank—has never accounted for slow filling. (But has made for some exciting water displays). :eek2:

The very last time I used this "quick-fix", the valve itself immediately started leaking. :o Even then, if the leak is slow enough, a pan can be placed under that slow leak and the valve can slowly seal itself.

I love water, and even like plumbing. :coolsm:

Rattlesnake Guy 05-30-2009 07:27 PM

Sometimes the face of the rubber washer inside the valve can get stuck in the closed position. When you open the valve, the washer stays put and the screw pulls out of the washer. Now the water has to pass through the little hole that the screw would normally occupy if the washer were still on the screw. (It sounded perfectly clear in my head...sadly:()

Dave M 06-03-2009 12:32 PM

Toilet followup
 
This was fixed in a minute. The shutoff was almost all the way off. Hardly any water coming from filler tube. The only thing we can think of is the renter turned the shutoff the wrong direction. Wish they were all this easy.
Another question. This appartment has two toilets exactly the same. When checking the operation, the flapper in #1 goes down when its just above the water level when emptying. In #2 the flapper almost goes down immediately. Both are set the same. Both have exactly the same flapper. Both have the same valve assy. Any thoughts?

Dave M

fatlazyless 06-03-2009 01:08 PM

Could be one flapper has more flexible rubber due to old age, or something. Go spend 2-bucks in tax free NH at your local independant hardware store and replace the rubber flapper and don't forget to clean the porcelain seat under the flapper!

jmen24 06-03-2009 04:26 PM

FLL, is 100% correct the flapper needs replacement. Exept the seat will be plastic on any toilet valve that has been manufactured since the second world war at least, but it still needs a wipe down with your finger. The rubber in the flapper breaks down and cannot hold air within the pocket (the hollow plug under the flat lid) and it loses its flotation and therefore slaps down. Honestly, due to experience in a past life maintaining apartments, the cheap Yellow Hornet brand flap that is at Aubuchons is the best fit for the fix (as long as it is an American Standard or old Kohler style flap), I have tried all the different models that were available approx. 5 years ago, we had 240 apartments under our ownership and I cannot even remember how many tiolets I had hugged in the time spent there, I shutter to think about it still...:eek:


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