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Old 10-27-2009, 08:01 PM   #144
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Default Before the boom drops...

My BIL has responded from northern California regarding his solar panels—emphasis mine:

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"...The pay-off for the panels will be about 10-11 years and so far this has been 5 years without a bill and a small positive due to our long trips.

"The initial investment was 25k and between the fed and the state we were paid $9000..."
Some thoughts I left off before:

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Originally Posted by Shedwannabe View Post
"...I have no idea whom granitebox was referring to in his post, but people who hold the extreme position that near unanimous research conclusions by climate scientists are bogus in my mind fit the criteria above...The vast majority of American's are (rightly) worried by the inaction by governments on steps to combat global warming. An influential (and loud) minority work to block efforts to respond, such as at the Copenhagen UN conference this December..."
1) Dr. Morrison's "study" is fatally flawed since extreme views were held by those prone to an addiction.

They receive unwarrented support from addicts who are like-minded. The results would have produced the same result whether caffeine, nicotine or if dopeheads were studied. (Or maybe even those "addicted" to foreign oil)!

Peer pressure would account for "a reluctance in continuing to express their extreme views". (While not changing their views at all).

2) The use of the word "rightly" indicates a mind closed to alternatives. Some examples:

"Nazi Germany was entitled (rightly) to "Lebensraum" in 1938".

"Our present day economy demands that "Keynesian Economics" (rightly) be applied".


3) In our written medium, we can be influential, but not "loud". If it appears loud—it's because one dismisses the minority view.

4) Climate scientists (and their universities) receive paychecks!

("Follow the money". )

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"...I would be very curious about what the output potential for some of the windmills shown would be, particularly if used in the vicinity of the broads..."
At the old Wolfeboro airport, members Rattlesnake Gal and shore things have reported seeing the 100 acres of the now-defunct "Grandview Commons" development.

That property receives the usual strong NE wind that sweeps nearly the full length of the Broads to arrive there. Now that GC is under foreclosure—and never had much of a "grand" view anyway—a windmill farm seems like "a natural" for there. (And would still keep the present "dog park" atmosphere).
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