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Old 04-09-2005, 06:39 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Audiofn
Saab made what they called a zero emissions car a number of years ago. The thing was sick looking with a hose that came from the exhaust and went back up to the intake of the engine. There was some deal in the middle that made it so that the engine could reburn the air. They claimed that the byproduct of the process was air that was actually cleaner then most of the air in 8 major citys in the US.
How is this a bad thing?

I remember the article too. It was an experimental one-off SAAB. (SAAB always appears as all caps).

Perhaps if they'd put graphics on the hose and polished the car...people would have liked it?

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac
"...Interestingly while my stairs have the stuff, it's only above the water line and within the splash zone, it doesn't accumulate on the dock pilings or dock which also get splashed. I wouldn't expect oil residue gunk to be so picky but I guess the algae critters are."
The article posted by ITD referencing the awful 2003 oil spill in Buzzards Bay (was it bunker oil? The worst kind of oil spill?) indicates a green color will appear when algae is scraped. I doubt that saltwater algae would present the same characteristics as freshwater algae, but the "green" is something you should have noticed immediately upon removing it. The rocks are granite-colored below the black area in the photograph -- perhaps the question should have read: "Explain the granite-colored area at winter's draw-down level."

Note that the photo is preceded by the phrase ""Explain this:".

I'm not positing an explanation, although shore things could -- when he/she gets back on the Forum.

The black color does suggest petroleum products -- particularly since the boating season had ended about ummmm, 8-inches above...which puts the black ring above "late-summer tide" on Winnipesaukee.

Hmm...those early postcards of Lake Winnipesaukee might shed some light on this darkness . McDude? shore things?

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac
"...OK, OK I realize that all the energy is in a sense stored energy...."
You beat me to it.

Wind is solar energy -- clean energy. (And why sailing is a pollution-free use of our recreational waters and spares the release of carcinogens into the air). It is otherwise free energy -- going to waste.

As for our domestic needs: The US has enough coal energy for 100 years. Unfortunately, the cleanest-burning coal (Utah) is now out of reach -- due to political considerations made ten years ago.

Hydrogen can be made from our coal reserves, but our present domestic consumption is already controversial due to mercury, acid rain, and other pollutants, as Wizard of Oz pointed out. Wizard of Oz also wanted to change PWCs.

Bombardier makes ATVs, Ski-Doo and Sea-Doo products and, due to overwhelming US sales, is poised to overtake America's Boeing as the largest manufacturer of commercial aircraft. Bombardier is a Canadian company -- with all THAT implies. Follow your money.

The good news is that the solar promoters have stated that a solar grid measuring 10 miles by 10 miles would provide the US with all of its domestic -- non-transportation -- energy needs. ('Course, that's an immense area to cover with silicon panels).

I was surprised to read that the US has over 1100 operating modern windmill-generators today. EDITED #1: Make that 5000.

EDITED #2: The individual living in San Francisco's Presidio district -- and driving a $50 Billion California solar initiative -- is none other than...Mikael Gorbachev!

One hundred years ago, there were 77 US manufacturers of windmills -- and the US was a windmill exporter! (We import our windmill technology today -- from Denmark).

Oil is converted to manufacture plastics and fertilizer to feed the masses: Too bad we've been wedded to oil for transportation -- it just goes up in smokey pollutants, whose long-term effects on health are sometimes immediate (asthma) sometimes delayed (emphazema, cancer), but nearly always dire.

The money we pay for oil goes to fund madrasahs, which are:
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...schools that are the breeding ground of anti-western sentiment and future al-Qaeda foot soldiers"

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...odload&sid=516
Follow your petroleum dollars.

The technology is already here.

We pay too great a price for:
1) Image
2) Convenience

IMHO.

Last edited by ApS; 04-09-2005 at 08:51 PM. Reason: Add: Improve readability (try to, anyway). Make "green" greener. It's no use -- it can't be seen on a blue background. Try to figure out HTML.
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