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			I'd say Grant got it right and you do deserve a pat on the back for teaching your kids that there are consequences for their actions.Many of today's parents actually reward their kids with loving attention after they have done something bad......thinking they can reason with them as if they were an adults. They soon realize that acting up gets them a lot of great face time with mom or dad......they aren't stupid.
 I don't suggest that you beat your kid with a baseball bat, but spankings did the trick for 800 years.
 Fear is not a bad emotion....it keeps even us adults out of trouble.
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