On my soapbox.The more I see all the randon killings and shooting of LEO's,the more I say just kill them right there on the spot.Sounds kind of severe but I think the penalties are just the opposite.What does this have to do with this thread?Assuming the criminals are caught and assuming they have  anything of value,after the stolen items are recovered or paid for the victim should be allowed to take items of equal value from the theives to feel the same loss...plus the lawfull punishment.