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PROPELLER · 08-18-2005, 07:53 AM

some different perspectives on what has been posted in this thread. I do not begrudge Mr. Bahre & the Bahre family, good for them that they are a success. However, no matter what he has accomplished or whatever he has done for the community(if you consider it good, some may not) the Clay Point property is still an eyesore, your opinion may differ.

I don't live in Alton but if I did it would be because I like the small town out of the way feel in comparison to say a more bustling community. However, that is changing & Mr. Bahre is contributing with the Hannaford/mall. I'm sure there many residents who are unhappy with it. I always find it ironic that many people will move to towns like this to get away from the hustle & bustle of cities & suburbia but then complain there is no super Walmart 2 minutes down the street. Its been said before transplants want every town service known to man that they had where they moved from but then don't want to pay for it & then complain the town is becoming more like where they moved from, go figure.

I don't see Mr. Bahre gouging race fans. I went to a race 2 years ago. I was lucky enough to get free tickets but the face value was $75. Comparable to other major sporting events. How much does Kraft get for a Patriots ticket? when he built his stadium ticket prices doubled. A friends seasons tickets when from $50 to $100 & they just went up again this year. As far as food, the food served at the track was comparable to other major sports venues in the New England area but cheaper. And get this, if you don't want to buy stadium food, your allowed to bring your own. Small coolers with beer, YES BEER, are allowed. Does Mr. Kraft, Mr. Henry or Mr. Jacobs allow that in their respective teams stadiums? NO. You don't need to pay for parking, Gillette & Fenway are outrageous. So even though I do not like his property at Clay Point & probably would not be in favor of erecting Hannaford & a mall he gets in A+ in my book with regard to ticket & concession prices at his track.

One last question that has plagued me of late. How did towns(this goes for any town in any state) get along or get by before property taxes soared? How could property taxes soar in a relatively short period of time, say in the last 5-10 years & still complain they are strapped & they need to raise taxes & create more developement to pay for everything? What did they do prior to that & where is all the new tax money going that its still not enough?

08-18-2005, 07:53 AM	#20
PROPELLER Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 340 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	some different perspectives on what has been posted in this thread. I do not begrudge Mr. Bahre & the Bahre family, good for them that they are a success. However, no matter what he has accomplished or whatever he has done for the community(if you consider it good, some may not) the Clay Point property is still an eyesore, your opinion may differ. I don't live in Alton but if I did it would be because I like the small town out of the way feel in comparison to say a more bustling community. However, that is changing & Mr. Bahre is contributing with the Hannaford/mall. I'm sure there many residents who are unhappy with it. I always find it ironic that many people will move to towns like this to get away from the hustle & bustle of cities & suburbia but then complain there is no super Walmart 2 minutes down the street. Its been said before transplants want every town service known to man that they had where they moved from but then don't want to pay for it & then complain the town is becoming more like where they moved from, go figure. I don't see Mr. Bahre gouging race fans. I went to a race 2 years ago. I was lucky enough to get free tickets but the face value was $75. Comparable to other major sporting events. How much does Kraft get for a Patriots ticket? when he built his stadium ticket prices doubled. A friends seasons tickets when from $50 to $100 & they just went up again this year. As far as food, the food served at the track was comparable to other major sports venues in the New England area but cheaper. And get this, if you don't want to buy stadium food, your allowed to bring your own. Small coolers with beer, YES BEER, are allowed. Does Mr. Kraft, Mr. Henry or Mr. Jacobs allow that in their respective teams stadiums? NO. You don't need to pay for parking, Gillette & Fenway are outrageous. So even though I do not like his property at Clay Point & probably would not be in favor of erecting Hannaford & a mall he gets in A+ in my book with regard to ticket & concession prices at his track. One last question that has plagued me of late. How did towns(this goes for any town in any state) get along or get by before property taxes soared? How could property taxes soar in a relatively short period of time, say in the last 5-10 years & still complain they are strapped & they need to raise taxes & create more developement to pay for everything? What did they do prior to that & where is all the new tax money going that its still not enough? Last edited by PROPELLER; 08-18-2005 at 01:07 PM.