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Old 06-02-2014, 08:38 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Dave R View Post
I never meant design the roof so that it's a multiple of the width of the panels, I meant what I said, design the roof for full width panels. Doing so does not preclude flashing. If memory serves, my roof was (n x 16") + 2 1/8" to fit the panels and flashing without any hassle.

Plumbing chase access panels can be placed behind appliances and other places where no one would would notice. They don't have to be visible to be functional. That's how mine are.

The end of a floor joist is under almost no stress that would be affected by a check. It's only in compression and shares the load with a rim joist precisely where it;s needed most. It's the center of a joist span that's critical. Rafters are irrelevant in this regard because they have to be trimmed on both ends anyway. I still would recommend engineered lumber regardless, especially for an island camp. The light weight is a great advantage when moving it to the building lot.

A straight and plumb wall is vastly easier to scribe to than a wavy mess. I never said the cabinets would not have to be scribed, but I was not very clear about it either...
My point on the standing seam roofing was that the install requires that the starting and ending panels be crimped over a gable wall flashing piece (similar to what we call Rite Flow drip edge). That is not an optional bend, it is a part of the structural and flashing integrity of the roof. Unless you want to look at that huge 3-4" end detail that some companies offer, there is no way to avoid the end crimps. I am all for saving money and time, but not when it comes at a cost of form or function.

We will have to agree to disagree on the access panels.

The end of your floor joists are in fact under compression, but a check can cause the sheathing to heave and tile to crack. Not all joist ends are located under a wall with a rim joist attached to the end. If you are using KD floor joists than your spans are limited and you will likely have to split over a beam somewhere.

You and I are in agreement that Engineered Lumber is really the only option that should be considered for a floor system. Today's wood is absolutely terrible and compared to the engineered products, does not come close to integrity and design options. Plus they can be ordered by the foot!

I don't disagree that straight plumb walls are better, but a scribe is a scribe, the difference between removing the bulk of material with a power plane before moving to a hand plane to finish is a matter of a minute or two.

Its all good Dave R, I was not looking to cut your post down, your info was good, but in the wrong hands could create an impossible client. One that has no basis for the opinions they have on construction other than they read about it on the internet or because they read the current IBC, that they are now experts in construction standards. Not understanding that code is not a set standard, but a minimum standard.
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