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Originally Posted by Island Lover
Woodsy
Facts and statistics have been posted, there is little point in posting more because the opposition discounts any data that does not support their position. Below are just a few of the rationalizations given to discount data, most are not exact quotes.
The speed was only 3 mph over the proposed limit
Alcohol was involved (even though the operator was found not guilty of that charge by a jury)
That lake does not have a 150' rule
The USCG only says "excessing speed" and that could mean 6 mph
Operator inexperience was the real cause
BWI was the real cause
"falling overboard" is not related to speed
The high performance boats that flipped at high speed were caused by a sharp turn, not speed
"I do not accept your definition of excessive speed"
There was "dense fog"
"All alcohol or alcohol/drug related. Take out the stimulants and would any of these happened?"
speed has nothing to do with speed limits
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Island Lover...
I don't discount anything. The Pro HB-162 side has yet to post any Facts or Statistics from any publicly available official government publication! Not one! I have posted data from the United States Coast Guard and the National Transportation Safety Board.
In your post above you bring up thinly veiled references to the Littlefield/Hartman accident. Specifically the first two points you are truying to make. However here is one of your own quotes from another thread.
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Originally Posted by Island Lover
We all know that you can drive through speed traps on Rt 93 at 5 or 10 MPH over the speed limit and not be stopped. The same will be true on the lake.
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So if you can drive 5-10MPH over the limit with no penalty, how would this have changed the terrible outcome of that night? It is well documented, that if a person is willing to operate a vehicle while under the influence, they really have no regard for any other laws.
As far as your other points go, prevailing conditions at the time of the accident are paramount. Look at the categories the U.S. Coast Guard uses to delineate accident causes. Driving a boat while intoxicated is considered a primary accident cause. 15MPH in a dense fog can be considered excessive speed. Operator Inattention is a primary cause of accidents (thats what Danny Littlefield was convicted of), Operator Inexperience is a primary cause (most likely the primary cause of accidents in which the boats flipped), Hazardous Waters (probably the cause of alot of the kayaking/canoeing deaths), the list goes on.
Do you Pro HB-162 folks have ANY facts or statistics from any official source?
Woodsy