Winnipesaukee Forum - View Single Post - Where is the money for HB-162 going to come from?

Woodsy · 02-07-2006, 11:58 AM

I believed that the motivation behind alot of the people who supported HB-162 truly was safety and nothing else, even though I strongly disagreed about how to go about it. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "what price safety?" or "if not now, when?". I have mentioned my concerns about the costs associated with HB-162 before, and to be honest they were completely ignored by the WinnFabs crowd. In fact those concerns were completely ignored by the House of Representatives, who chose to pass on HB-162 as an unfunded mandate to the Senate, even though it was mentioned during the debate that HB-162 should be remanded to the Finance Committee, in order to determine possible avenues for funding. Now that I have opened up a dialougue to ponder how we are going to fund HB-162 it seems I was mistaken in my belief that HB-162 is really about improving boater safety.

It seems to me that nobody from the Pro HB-162 crowd wants to discuss how to actually pay for it.

Bear Lover...

Oh my head! Your kidding right? All of those posts in defense of HB-162, I cannot believe you are actually advocating we only train and equip 1 officer? For the entire state? Talk about making HB-162 unenforceable! You don't think we need to put up signs telling people that NH may have a speed limit, and what that number is? It sure works that way on the roadways. I am not advocating floating signs in the middle of the lakes & rivers, but certainly at the minimum signs should be required at public boat launches. No need to tell anyone about the Boater Safety Certificate requirement either? You actually think that 1 trained officer is going to make a difference in safety on the states waterways?

I fail to see how training just 1 MP officer is in the best interests of "SAFETY". Everybody seems to be pretty much in agreement that we need to lessen the chance of running into Capt. Bonehead. Safety and courtesy need to be taught. Education is the key. You didn't learn that the stove was hot to touch because you touched it and burned yourself, you learned that because your parents told you so. Thats called education. NH has a Safe Boater Certification requirement, yet as posted by Island Lover above, not everyone knows about it. Thats because there are no signs to indicate that a Safe Boater Certificate is REQUIRED in NH. If its not posted, how is someone to know? The same goes for speed limit signage. The only defense against ignorance of a law is education. The only way to educate people, the tourists and day trippers and other people who do not actually own property on the any of the lakes and waterways or register thier boats in NH is through signs and ads in publications ie: newspapers. That costs money. Relying on somebody to wave thier arms at another boat is absurd.

Where is the money going to come from WinnFabs? I am sure you guys have to have at least some suggestions?

Woodsy

The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

02-07-2006, 11:58 AM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,969 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	I believed that the motivation behind alot of the people who supported HB-162 truly was safety and nothing else, even though I strongly disagreed about how to go about it. I can't tell you how many times I have heard "what price safety?" or "if not now, when?". I have mentioned my concerns about the costs associated with HB-162 before, and to be honest they were completely ignored by the WinnFabs crowd. In fact those concerns were completely ignored by the House of Representatives, who chose to pass on HB-162 as an unfunded mandate to the Senate, even though it was mentioned during the debate that HB-162 should be remanded to the Finance Committee, in order to determine possible avenues for funding. Now that I have opened up a dialougue to ponder how we are going to fund HB-162 it seems I was mistaken in my belief that HB-162 is really about improving boater safety. It seems to me that nobody from the Pro HB-162 crowd wants to discuss how to actually pay for it. Bear Lover... Oh my head! Your kidding right? All of those posts in defense of HB-162, I cannot believe you are actually advocating we only train and equip 1 officer? For the entire state? Talk about making HB-162 unenforceable! You don't think we need to put up signs telling people that NH may have a speed limit, and what that number is? It sure works that way on the roadways. I am not advocating floating signs in the middle of the lakes & rivers, but certainly at the minimum signs should be required at public boat launches. No need to tell anyone about the Boater Safety Certificate requirement either? You actually think that 1 trained officer is going to make a difference in safety on the states waterways? I fail to see how training just 1 MP officer is in the best interests of "SAFETY". Everybody seems to be pretty much in agreement that we need to lessen the chance of running into Capt. Bonehead. Safety and courtesy need to be taught. Education is the key. You didn't learn that the stove was hot to touch because you touched it and burned yourself, you learned that because your parents told you so. Thats called education. NH has a Safe Boater Certification requirement, yet as posted by Island Lover above, not everyone knows about it. Thats because there are no signs to indicate that a Safe Boater Certificate is REQUIRED in NH. If its not posted, how is someone to know? The same goes for speed limit signage. The only defense against ignorance of a law is education. The only way to educate people, the tourists and day trippers and other people who do not actually own property on the any of the lakes and waterways or register thier boats in NH is through signs and ads in publications ie: newspapers. That costs money. Relying on somebody to wave thier arms at another boat is absurd. Where is the money going to come from WinnFabs? I am sure you guys have to have at least some suggestions? Woodsy The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.