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Originally Posted by Major
I'll bite! I actually agree with Garcia to a certain extent. The help should be focused with an eye to not helping anymore. The help shouldn't be forever. I hope we can agree that perpetually being on welfare is not good for the individual being helped, nor society as a whole.
I've told this story before on this Forum. One of my closest coworkers in the RI Army National Guard lost his father in Vietnam. At the time, he was 8. His older brother was 10 and his younger brother was 4. The only thing his mother received was $10,000 from the government. Nothing else. No benefits, no nothing. His mother refused government help (welfare) since she thought it would be a poor example to her children. Instead, she worked three jobs, one full-time job (as a secretary) and two part-time jobs (as a waitress) until the kids graduated from college. One became a medical doctor, one a lawyer and the last one an engineer. All three retired from the military.
The point is that it can be done. Unfortunately, hard work and perseverance is part of the solution.
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Major, your examples are always 30-50 years old. You realize that world no longer exists, right?! Wages vs. living costs are nowhere near what they used to be. Not even close. My parents bought a home on a maintenance man's and grocery clerks salaries in the late 60's. College cost $600 then.
I don't think anyone should ever depend on, or want to depend on, the system; I also know the importance and value of hard work and perseverance (don't forget I worked full time and paid for my own bachelor's and master's degrees mostly in cash, something that could no longer happen, either) but to make comparisons between what it took to succeed 30-50 years ago and now is absurd.
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