No, none of that stuff. Is same spot as my dock in the summer and I know the depth is 3-4' deep very well, there, but still was a very sudden surprise. I think when it happens in deep water, one can initially get smacked upside the head or face onto the ice which does not help any. It really happened very fast like in a half second.
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