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Originally Posted by RLW
If you have alligators in that pond you had better run don't walk to see the ACO in Alton as they are not allowed in the inland lakes and ponds. As far as turtles, you do not think they aren't any large ones in the big lake that could take a dogs leg off. If so you are sadly mistaken. Our small lake up on the mountain have huge turtles 20 to 24inches across, but my dog hasn't lost a leg nor have the grandchildren been bothered by them. I think this topic has gone far enough. It appears a sign has been posted and we as adults just need to bit the bullet and obey what it says. 
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Alligator snapping turtles are not alligators. They stay away from places where there is a lot of activity as they lie in wait for prey then strike. They have a tongue that acts as a lure. The ponds by the fire station have a hefty population of them we have seen them and photographed them. Even saw a large one killing a smaller one. So the fact they haven't bothered you at Hills Pond doesn't surprise me as they would hang out by less active spots. That's my point. There is all liklihood of a dog or a person even getting bitten by one over at the fire station.
Who says I let the dogs go swimming anyway? Implying that we didn't take the dogs home and forget their swim and that we didn't obey the signage is wrong. And why has it gone far enough? I'm not the only other responsible person in Alton who has lost a spot to take the dogs because of irresponsible people.
Here's an idea, why don't we just take them to your house? You're actually closer to us anyway..............